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Palestine

3x Korg Module Pro and SWAM Flugelhorn.

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  • I would love to hear what @McD would do with this in StaffPad. Berlin Strings would be nice. It would be even nicer if we could all just get along. Just my two cents.

  • @Paulieworld said:

    I would love to hear what @McD would do with this in StaffPad. Berlin Strings would be nice. It would be even nicer if we could all just get along. Just my two cents.

    I do enjoy re-imagining Michael’s MIDI compositions/improvisations. But issues around the “clock” (or a click) can make conversion to notation dicey. When it’s a problem I just target apps in AUM rather than StaffPad strings and such.

  • @McD said:
    @Paulieworld said:

    I would love to hear what @McD would do with this in StaffPad. Berlin Strings would be nice. It would be even nicer if we could all just get along. Just my two cents.

    I do enjoy re-imagining Michael’s MIDI compositions/improvisations. But issues around the “clock” (or a click) can make conversion to notation dicey. When it’s a problem I just target apps in AUM rather than StaffPad strings and such.

    I'm sure you know that the original MIDI spec didn't impose a time signature or tempo. It's just a series of note on/off messages, and a few other things. We humans added structure later. I recently watched a article showing StaffPad's ability to extract the note timing from existing music. If nobody will be reading the score anyway, it might be fun to try.

  • Nice music. Not absolutely tragic enough to represent what the world is letting happen to Palestine, but it’s probably impossible to make enjoyable music with the vibes of genocide.

  • Gorgeous! I just posted a comment regarding improvisation and the “origin” of the notes. Since you truly improvise everything, where does it come from for you? Does it just flow unconsciously from somewhere inside you? Do you do any planning ahead in terms of structure? Key? Chord progressions?

  • @raindro said:
    Nice music. Not absolutely tragic enough to represent what the world is letting happen to Palestine, but it’s probably impossible to make enjoyable music with the vibes of genocide.

    I agree with that. Music can't go there. But on the other hand we can't help wanting to "turn our howls into music."

  • @Paulieworld said:

    @McD said:
    @Paulieworld said:

    I would love to hear what @McD would do with this in StaffPad. Berlin Strings would be nice. It would be even nicer if we could all just get along. Just my two cents.

    I do enjoy re-imagining Michael’s MIDI compositions/improvisations. But issues around the “clock” (or a click) can make conversion to notation dicey. When it’s a problem I just target apps in AUM rather than StaffPad strings and such.

    I'm sure you know that the original MIDI spec didn't impose a time signature or tempo. It's just a series of note on/off messages, and a few other things. We humans added structure later. I recently watched a article showing StaffPad's ability to extract the note timing from existing music. If nobody will be reading the score anyway, it might be fun to try.

    Staffpad allows you to align an existing audio track with its tempo track.

    In this case Mike’s DAW Cubasis has a BPM setting that gets included in a MIDI file but Mike just treats recording like a tape session with no click. So Staffpad assumes it has a tricky notation assignment and does its best to place notes in a strict timing framework.

  • Beautifully melancholic. Nice work.

    It would be nice to add a middle eastern plucky string instrument solo, like an oud to add to the context. Just my opinion.

  • Very moving, and it feels like there’s a hint of hope in there.

  • Absolutely beautiful!

    (The bone-dry total lack of reverb is difficult for me to understand, however.)

  • Lovely, reminds me of music on some film noir.

  • Amazing work as usual Mike. This really could have ended and been complete at 3:48 IMHO

    Everything that came after was just a nice little bonus with the Flugelhorn parts. @LinearLineman

    @Lady_App_titude I was also thinking about how it would sound with something mild on the strings to simulate a room or chamber. AltiSpace maybe?

  • Beautiful, sad with a sense of mourning.

  • edited June 19

    Thanks for listening @Paulieworld @McD @raindro @MrStochastic @reezygle
    @boomer very minimal planning, sometimes a mood, or genre. I made a bunch of theme based albums… planets, dinosaurs, philosophers, etc. which sparked my imagination, I guess.
    Here’s a couple of essays I wrote based on the teaching of my late, great, teacher and improviser, Connie Crothers…

    https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/27012/how-to-improve-your-keyboard-improvising-100-in-three-weeks

    https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/27029/part-3-the-judgemental-mind-and-why-its-worth-losing-for-a-musician

    @bygjohn i found hopefulness in there, too. It seems like wishful thinking, unfortunately.
    @Lady_App_titude thanks, my dear. As to reverb, I use it infrequently. Somehow, the dryness works for my own ear. It counteracts my hodgepodge mixing deficiency, maybe. Isn’t reverb something we’re just accustomed to for that “lifelike” effect? I do like the SWAM tenor sax cause it comes closer,
    and Pianoteq. But,it just ain’t real no matter what I do, so I go for the surreal.

    @ecou @Edward_Alexander @AlterEgo_UK much appreciate your taking the time to comment.
    It’s certainly not a howl, which the situation, of course, deserves. More a bit of nostalgia. Arabs and Jews lived there, in peace, for centuries. It’s a beautiful place. I’ve been there many times. No reason the Palestinians shouldn’t have a homeland there, too. Every Jew should understand that. Sadly, it’s grist for less compassionate agendas on both sides.

  • @LinearLineman said:
    Thanks for listening @Paulieworld @McD @raindro @MrStochastic @reezygle
    @boomer very minimal planning, sometimes a mood, or genre. I made a bunch of theme based albums… planets, dinosaurs, philosophers, etc. which sparked my imagination, I guess.
    Here’s a couple of essays I wrote based on the teaching of my late, great, teacher and improviser, Connie Crothers…

    https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/27012/how-to-improve-your-keyboard-improvising-100-in-three-weeks

    https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/27029/part-3-the-judgemental-mind-and-why-its-worth-losing-for-a-musician

    @bygjohn i found hopefulness in there, too. It seems like wishful thinking, unfortunately.
    @Lady_App_titude thanks, my dear. As to reverb, I use it infrequently. Somehow, the dryness works for my own ear. It counteracts my hodgepodge mixing deficiency, maybe. Isn’t reverb something we’re just accustomed to for that “lifelike” effect? I do like the SWAM tenor sax cause it comes closer,
    and Pianoteq. But,it just ain’t real no matter what I do, so I go for the surreal.

    @ecou @Edward_Alexander @AlterEgo_UK much appreciate your taking the time to comment.
    It’s certainly not a howl, which the situation, of course, deserves. More a bit of nostalgia. Arabs and Jews lived there, in peace, for centuries. It’s a beautiful place. I’ve been there many times. No reason the Palestinians shouldn’t have a homeland there, too. Every Jew should understand that. Sadly, it’s grist for less compassionate agendas on both sides.

    But sadly it was their homeland until something happened.

    https://www.nytimes.com/sitemap/1899/06/20/

    Scroll down to the conference in Baltimore, read and sadly weep.

  • Beautiful music for an awful crisis.

  • @Telstar5 : Two wrongs do not make a right.

  • I honestly wished that there was an ignore thread button on Audiobus that would blank a thread title.

  • @Telstar5 I was referring to Michael’s most generous offer that Palestinian’s should have a homeland there too. If you’ve referred to the New York Times article dated 20 June 1899 you’ll see it mentions a group of people, their agenda and the homeland of a people.

    How can someone bestow to someone that which they already possess? <3

  • @Fruitbat1919 i agree. I would also like to be able to ignore any title that has a pronoun or a definite article in it.

    @knewspeak they “possessed” not possess. Like Native Americans possessed North America. I venture to say that most nations are not the original inhabitants.
    I was not making a political statement. Just remembering a time Jews and Arabs lived together in relative piece.

    Thanks @klownshed. Appreciated.

  • @raindro said:
    Nice music. Not absolutely tragic enough to represent what the world is letting happen to Palestine, but it’s probably impossible to make enjoyable music with the vibes of genocide.

    +1

    I can’t believe genocide is being inflicted on Palestine, (death toll over 50k, probably around 100k or something ethnically cleansed) and they still dare call it “war.” As previously stated, Arabs and Jews lived together for millennia peacefully [before the European/American colonial powers exploited the region to the point of making the Jewish Holocaust of 1945 now an Arabic Holocaust only 75 years later].

    But the “irony” that the ‘state of’ Israel, which was [illegally] imposed on the existing sovereign native state/population in 1947 to give refuge to Jews fleeing genocide, is now perpetrating genocide to what they say “never again” to is maddening .

    Anyway another beautiful piece Mike. Thanks for bringing a touch of peaceful attention to such tragedy.

  • @LinearLineman said:
    @Fruitbat1919 i agree. I would also like to be able to ignore any title that has a pronoun or a definite article in it.

    @knewspeak they “possessed” not possess. Like Native Americans possessed North America. I venture to say that most nations are not the original inhabitants.
    I was not making a political statement. Just remembering a time Jews and Arabs lived together in relative piece.

    Thanks @klownshed. Appreciated.

    Yes quite a time ago Jews, Muslims and Christians all lived in respectful peace together for many centuries but to give a little context to the historical events that stopped that peaceful coexistence we must look into history and that history didn’t start just over a year ago as some may believe, that reference to the NYT is part of that evidence, that evidence isn’t provided by the prevailing MSM narrative unfortunately, to change the future we mustn’t fear to look at the past, so it may guide us to a better, peaceful future. <3

  • @knewspeak said:

    @LinearLineman said:
    @Fruitbat1919 i agree. I would also like to be able to ignore any title that has a pronoun or a definite article in it.

    @knewspeak they “possessed” not possess. Like Native Americans possessed North America. I venture to say that most nations are not the original inhabitants.
    I was not making a political statement. Just remembering a time Jews and Arabs lived together in relative piece.

    Thanks @klownshed. Appreciated.

    Yes quite a time ago Jews, Muslims and Christians all lived in respectful peace together for many centuries but to give a little context to the historical events that stopped that peaceful coexistence we must look into history and that history didn’t start just over a year ago as some may believe, that reference to the NYT is part of that evidence, that evidence isn’t provided by the prevailing MSM narrative unfortunately, to change the future we mustn’t fear to look at the past, so it may guide us to a better, peaceful future. <3

    Agreed.

    The Crusades come to mind.

    Let's look towards a future where we can surpass the adversity of the present.

  • @yellow_eyez I absolutely agree with you, except one thing that NYT article pre-dates what despicable horrors were done to the millions of Jews in the Holocaust of the 1930-40s, that’s just another excuse for the horrors perpetrated by the Colonial state that was founded there sadly.

  • @Gravitas said:

    @knewspeak said:

    @LinearLineman said:
    @Fruitbat1919 i agree. I would also like to be able to ignore any title that has a pronoun or a definite article in it.

    @knewspeak they “possessed” not possess. Like Native Americans possessed North America. I venture to say that most nations are not the original inhabitants.
    I was not making a political statement. Just remembering a time Jews and Arabs lived together in relative piece.

    Thanks @klownshed. Appreciated.

    Yes quite a time ago Jews, Muslims and Christians all lived in respectful peace together for many centuries but to give a little context to the historical events that stopped that peaceful coexistence we must look into history and that history didn’t start just over a year ago as some may believe, that reference to the NYT is part of that evidence, that evidence isn’t provided by the prevailing MSM narrative unfortunately, to change the future we mustn’t fear to look at the past, so it may guide us to a better, peaceful future. <3

    Agreed.

    The Crusades come to mind.

    Let's look towards a future where we can surpass the adversity of the present.

    Indeed the Crusaders another bunch of settlers hell bent on power, greed and supremacy.

  • While I agree with many of the sentiments expressed above regarding the possibly historic error made in that region, it can be extremely illuminating to have a look at the statistics from where settlers originate. Far from countries not deemed to be from ‘decadent west’ than are, I was surprised myself by this considering the rhetoric.

    Not to negate, or to be honest really get involved in any so called debate about this topic, but I like to feel somewhat informed while forming opinions, especially on such complex topics and without any skin in the game beyond a conscience and horror at what I’ve seen unfold over all our lifetimes.

  • @Krupa said:
    While I agree with many of the sentiments expressed above regarding the possibly historic error made in that region, it can be extremely illuminating to have a look at the statistics from where settlers originate. Far from countries not deemed to be from ‘decadent west’ than are, I was surprised myself by this considering the rhetoric.

    Not to negate, or to be honest really get involved in any so called debate about this topic, but I like to feel somewhat informed while forming opinions, especially on such complex topics and without any skin in the game beyond a conscience and horror at what I’ve seen unfold over all our lifetimes.

    Witnessing the second-hand horrors of the Holocaust and countless horrors since and during my lifetime rips my soul asunder I cannot walk sleeping through this nightmare while witnessing fellow humans suffer the same, time after time. So I speak out, to stave off madness.

  • @knewspeak said:

    @Krupa said:
    While I agree with many of the sentiments expressed above regarding the possibly historic error made in that region, it can be extremely illuminating to have a look at the statistics from where settlers originate. Far from countries not deemed to be from ‘decadent west’ than are, I was surprised myself by this considering the rhetoric.

    Not to negate, or to be honest really get involved in any so called debate about this topic, but I like to feel somewhat informed while forming opinions, especially on such complex topics and without any skin in the game beyond a conscience and horror at what I’ve seen unfold over all our lifetimes.

    Witnessing the second-hand horrors of the Holocaust and countless horrors since and during my lifetime rips my soul asunder I cannot walk sleeping through this nightmare while witnessing fellow humans suffer the same, time after time. So I speak out, to stave off madness.

    Absolutely, but in ascribing historical blame, be sure to be aware of the full context. People have fled there from all over the world, largely the former Soviet Union, and North Africa, so what to do about that remains a conundrum. This bad blood belongs to most of the human race.

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