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Is this delay most like a volca drums, when used with a waveguide resonator ?
Wait, what now? Wanting to see things from another's' point of view is bad is it?
No wonder he lashed out.
One thing I found particularly distasteful in the early days of the JAX drama was people attacking his mental state. If you really believe somebody has mental health issues, you really shouldn't be attacking them and bringing it up in public. That is well below the belt.
He created a lot of the drama for sure, but nobody deserves to be bullied.
If you see a cat in the street and go to pet it and it bites you, it could be because it's just an arsehole of a cat. Or it could be because it's scared as it's often mistreated and is defending itself.
An empathetic person would work out why it's biting and treat it accordingly. An arsehole bully would kick it, reinforcing the cat's behaviour. But what with us being human, we might find ourselves on one end of the scale one day, at the other end on another. Hopefully we are able to reflect and re-adjust.
Some people seem to like being at the kicky end.
But if it is just a plain arsehole of a cat, maybe just leave it alone.
It is a bit more complex than a "frightened, dumb animal" scenario.
You can't explain things to a cat as they don't speak English.
But you can explain things to a human. And if the human decides to keep on being obnoxious (due to mental health or other reasons) then it is difficult to solve the problem.
If the person then decides to hold a grudge against you (or the AB Forum) then there is not a lot you can do about it. They are on the other side of the world, ranting and saying nonsense on their web site.
Having a mild mental health problem doesn't mean you should be bullied. But it also doesn't give you a free pass to attack people.
Wait, what now? You're defender of the bullied and oppressed are you?
The dev is 100% unable to see things from another's point of view and took many constructive criticisms of his UIs and pianos etc as a personal insult. His website rants against this forum and members are pathetic (but strangely amusing). You go ahead and defend this behaviour if it makes you feel like a super hero.
I'm not defending his behaviour. I'm saying the behaviour of many others here stinks too. Maybe also yours if you think bullying is OK.
And yeah, the bullied and oppressed deserve defending much of the time. Bullies and oppressors don't.
I'm no super hero. Just trying not to be an areshole.
Nah, I'm a lovely person 😉 I wouldn't say mean things if they weren't fully merited. Dev fully deserved his ban and I'm more than happy to criticise his behaviour.
Let just agree to disagree... on whatever it is we're disagreeing about.
What if someone has mental health issues but is also an asshole...?
How do you determine if the bad thing they just did is down to their mental state or their assholiness? Or a mixture of both?
How many percent do you assign to each condition?
My head is hurting now, so I think I'll stop... too complex for me to work out.
Try harder
And there it is...
Let's try and keep this thread civil, please.
My take on it is just to ignore the behaviour now, because we don’t know what’s going on there, and simply comment on the apps honestly as we would with any other developer.
I don’t agree that this developer was ever bullied. I’ve read back on the app feedback and it was quite fair. The developer’s reaction was surprisingly personal and insulting and that caused the back and forth.
But going forward, I’m going to try to stick to just checking out the apps themselves. That’s what this forum is about.
Yes
Imagine having the humility to invite the guy back on, wipe the slate clean, help him.
I think there’s too much heavy-handed moderation on here - threads get shut down and accounts banned far too quickly. Often with conscious or unconscious bias, leaving people of equally dubious morality and behaviour unscathed. Life after all is all about perspective. Everyone comes to everything from their own perspective. It’s really hard to put yourself in someone else’s shoes.
We all get a little ‘passionate’ about the things that bother us, from our perspective. All heated debates burn out eventually, usually quite quickly in the great scheme of things. And, most intelligent people can agreed to disagree. Then, life just goes on, till the next time.
Just don’t read certain threads for a bit, use the ignore function for a day or so. After ignoring them for a bit I unignore and start to read posts again from the people I think are ‘dubious’, just to understand their perspective.
Of course there are always cunts who prove to be the exception and I’m sure they’ll show themselves, they usually do, they can’t help it. I’m already wondering which part of this post I’ll regret the most and already know I’ve wasted my time typing it, but, fuck it, it’s done now 😆
It's OK as long as they're nice to cats.
Just for the record: I believe Jens Guel demanded that all his threads be removed. I don’t think he was banned.
Sticking to the apps and not the person is the best approach to keeping @Michael and @thesoundtestroom out of editorial mode.
The apps are quite interesting and worth discussing especially when provided as TestFlight betas.
I’m expecting sales events.
I wish these JAX ONE threads had more video demos and less evidence to feed the developer’s opionions but user forums are “comment sections” and any creator reads that content at their mortal peril. Only the strongest benefit and integrate the advice.
Not tagging them unless necessary is another practical measure for reducing their workload.
On his company website he complains that he and his apps are mentioned (and criticised) in the Forum. He also complains that he and his apps are not mentioned (i.e. in his eyes "banned") in the Forum. You can't win.
Yes. But the problem is when people talk about any apps they say nice things about the app and also make suggestions or criticisms. Unless you praise his apps unconditionally, he is not happy. If there's any comment he sees as criticism then he has a melt down.
Every other developer knows that some people will like their apps and some won't. And that people will express their opinions on online places like the Forum. Jens is not prepared to accept this.
I hope you realize he’s not commenting here so commenting on his web site seems like reinforcing his themes that this is a nest of vipers trying to kill his business. (He’s got that well in hand, IMHO). I’d like to see him focus on his products and skip the drama but we’re playing into the narrative with personal comments unrelated to music tools.
Have you tried the TestFlight apps and do you have any comments about them?
It looks like the TestFlight betas have been stopped due to a lack of sales by testers.
That has to be pretty frustrating when demos don’t convert to sales.
His other complaint as well is the lack of beta test feedback, which is apparently nonexistent.
People have evidently even gotten refunds after having purchased the app once they had access to the beta. That must be discouraging for sure.
He has clarified that. He was first banned, then he requested all his content be removed.