Chat GPT-4o is my buddy

hes

@offbrands said:
The CTO of OpenAI, Mira Murati, has some pretty weird views on creativity. I imagine because she’s never been a creative. She sees creativity as a barrier that only a few talented people can access. I find that the most baffling thing I’ve ever heard about creativity.

I don't think you're actually listening to what she says. What she says is almost the opposite of what you claim. She doesn't say that she "sees creativity as a barrier that only a few talented people can access." She says that many people think of creativity that way, which I expect is a true statement. (E.g., people are often acclaimed as "geniuses", which tends to make other people think that their abilities are unreachable by ordinary people, when often their abilities have been gained mostly just by hard work. ). She then goes on to say that collaborating with AI will help more people get rid of this mindset and begin to think of themselves as creatives, adding the actual creative work on base of what collaborative AI gives them.

offbrands

@hes said:

@offbrands said:
The CTO of OpenAI, Mira Murati, has some pretty weird views on creativity. I imagine because she’s never been a creative. She sees creativity as a barrier that only a few talented people can access. I find that the most baffling thing I’ve ever heard about creativity.

I don't think you're actually listening to what she says. What she says is almost the opposite of what you claim. She doesn't say that she "sees creativity as a barrier that only a few talented people can access." She says that many people think of creativity that way, which I expect is a true statement. (E.g., people are often acclaimed as "geniuses", which tends to make other people think that their abilities are unreachable by ordinary people, when often their abilities have been gained mostly just by hard work. ). She then goes on to say that collaborating with AI will help more people get rid of this mindset and begin to think of themselves as creatives, adding the actual creative work on base of what collaborative AI gives them.

It’s often in forums you find people twisting themselves into pretzels to find a gotcha. To bend over backwards to defend a pretty awful person because of what they say and that their words are to be trusted over their actions.

But I’ve listened to her fully. I’m not taking her word at face value, and if you are, you’ve been fooled I fear. Nothing any c-suite level exec says on camera in a puff piece interview should ever be taken at face value. Full stop.

27:53
Interesting. Has it watched every TV show and movie in the world, and is it gonna start writing scripts and making films?
28:05
Well, it's a tool. And so it certainly can do that as a tool,
28:14
and I expect that we will actually, we will collaborate with it, and it's going to make our creativity expand.
28:23
And right now if you think about how humans consider creativity, we see that it's sort of this very special thing
28:32
that's only accessible to this very few talented people out there. And these tools actually make it,
28:40
lower the barrier for anyone to think of themselves as creative and expand their creativity.

Often times when people say “how humans view so and so” they’re usually talking about themselves. Any person well versed in writings or content about creativity from creatives would never make this assertion. Creatives will be the first to tell you it takes time and effort. Craft is made over a long period of time.

You’ve added this whole bit of “geniuses” but she never said that. She made an assertion that can and should be taken how she views the world.

28:47
So in that sense, I think it's actually going to be really incredible. - Yeah, could give me 200 different cliffhangers
28:54
for the end of episode one or whatever, very easily. - Yes. And you can extend the story,
28:59
the story never ends. You can just continue. - Keep going. I'm done writing, but keep going.
29:06
That's interesting. - But I think it's really going to be a collaborative tool, especially in the creative spaces where-
29:14
I do too. - Yeah, more people will become more creative. - There's some fear right now. - Yes, for sure.

She’s taking the puff angle this interviewer has given her. It’ll be collaborative, trust us. If you read anything I said in the quoted part, you would see that I personally know people who have had their jobs taken away. There was no empathy or understanding to what I said, you just went straight to quote one part of my comment and defend Murarti in an impressive way. As if I’m incapable of understanding that she’s saying.

Again, you’re taking her at face value and why any person in any c-suite should never be is well documented.

29:21
But you're saying that'll switch and humans will figure out how to make the creative part of the work just better?
29:28
I think so, and some creative jobs maybe will go away,
29:36
but maybe they shouldn't have been there in the first place if the content that comes out of it

Even after the layup given to her, Because she couldn’t help herself. She had to say

“ I think so, and some creative jobs maybe will go away, but maybe they shouldn't have been there in the first place if the content that comes out of it is not very high quality“

The people I know who lost their jobs are thespians. Incredible voice actors who have voiced some popular vocal performances. They’re brilliant. Where was the collaboration she speaks of? Before the company men decided it was good enough and fired them.

Again, people in this forum need to stop giving the benefit of the doubt to these ghouls.

McD

If it can be automated to save money… it will.

If it gets blocked via regulations then it will be off shored
to benefit another nation.

What did Google do to librarians? It certainly made them more productive if the local government didn’t defund the library.

NeuM

@McD said:
If it can be automated to save money… it will.

If it gets blocked via regulations then it will be off shored
to benefit another nation.

What did Google do to librarians? It certainly made them more productive if the local government didn’t defund the library.

A.I. will be everywhere and there's no stopping it. People will adapt and the smart ones will use it early.

Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

@offbrands said:

@Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

@offbrands said:

@Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

@offbrands said:
As for the “AI” convo, Chat GPT is an LLM. Being impressed with it is like meeting a fully trained dog and asking it to sit. It’ll do it. Ask it to play dead, it’ll do that too. Mildly impressive.

But now imagine that dog has the necessity of using all the energy a country can produce for a single year in order to do these few tricks. Then imagine that dog is currently driving the American stock market in the billions of market cap while not being profitable and also producing a shit product that venture capitalists are currently calling out.

The dog is the LLM, that is about to burst a bubble, the “AI” bubble. Bubbles gonna burst. Relatively soon.

Those AI models have stolen creatives works from the internet, so image generation is just plagiarism with extra steps, as well as its prose and writing, and of course it’s facts it spits out. These people don’t believe creatives should exist. I’ll take one on the chin and admit to currently assuming that most of the people here are creatives. Creatives who want to create and not have a shitty LLM produce work while stealing jobs from other creatives.

Those AI models blatantly lie, which the industry has labeled “hallucinations”, there is no solution to this to be solved. Conflating humans with a machine is a fools errand. Yes humans lie, mislead, manipulate, but people are able to call this out. With AI it just gets labeled an “hallucination”. Go eat a rock, it’s fine.

These companies have no way of protecting your data either, as E2EE is currently impossible. So if you’re completely comfortable giving any information to a product that will use it to train future models, go right ahead.

Entertaining this trash product for it to blatantly lie to you, while the new leaders of Silicon Valley currently lie to us, while using up valuable energy during our climate crises to enrich Silicon Valley, as they’ve run out of ideas, is in a word, fucked.

There are no more worlds to conquer for them. So these MBAs are selling AI to us in order to grow and they’ll get rich while us, the poors, will suffer the consequences of their egregious actions.

I implore the lot of you to do some research into why it’s a horrible product.

Or don’t, it’s your life.

Either way, we all are, quite literally, being scammed.

I don't disagree. But on the bright side, it's saved me a lot of time and effort at work.

Apathy is a feeling I yearn for, lucky you.

Erroneously presumptive. My default affect tends toward acceptance and non-attachment.

Hit a chord it seems?

So you’re stating that you’re accepting yet non-attached.. if that’s not indifferent.. which is the definition of apathy.. then I suppose you’re well within your right to call it what you want. Doesn’t change the definitions of the word.

I’m not here to judge and to be honest I couldn’t care less what your position is, or anyone else’s. I’m just sharing what I’ve seen with sources where it seems relevant to the community, being there’s a lot of the creatives here, should be in the know of. Embracing this technology is ridiculous for any creatives to be doing. Full stop.

You made a point to say that you’ve gotten work done after I posted many sources about the harms of AI. You quoted me, and your response was “saved me time and effort at work”

That’s apathetic, but as I’ve stated previously, I’m well aware self-reflection is a hard thing to do. It’s all good either way.

I’ll continue to be “erroneously presumptive”, with the very little information you gave in a quoted response to me that was, yet again, apathetic.

Cheers.

Ad hominem and straw man mind-reading degrade the discourse and make it very difficult to connect with other people. I've been guilty of it myself. It's a challenge for all of us.

McD

@Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

@offbrands said:

@Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

@offbrands said:

@Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

@offbrands said:
As for the “AI” convo, Chat GPT is an LLM. Being impressed with it is like meeting a fully trained dog and asking it to sit. It’ll do it. Ask it to play dead, it’ll do that too. Mildly impressive.

But now imagine that dog has the necessity of using all the energy a country can produce for a single year in order to do these few tricks. Then imagine that dog is currently driving the American stock market in the billions of market cap while not being profitable and also producing a shit product that venture capitalists are currently calling out.

The dog is the LLM, that is about to burst a bubble, the “AI” bubble. Bubbles gonna burst. Relatively soon.

Those AI models have stolen creatives works from the internet, so image generation is just plagiarism with extra steps, as well as its prose and writing, and of course it’s facts it spits out. These people don’t believe creatives should exist. I’ll take one on the chin and admit to currently assuming that most of the people here are creatives. Creatives who want to create and not have a shitty LLM produce work while stealing jobs from other creatives.

Those AI models blatantly lie, which the industry has labeled “hallucinations”, there is no solution to this to be solved. Conflating humans with a machine is a fools errand. Yes humans lie, mislead, manipulate, but people are able to call this out. With AI it just gets labeled an “hallucination”. Go eat a rock, it’s fine.

These companies have no way of protecting your data either, as E2EE is currently impossible. So if you’re completely comfortable giving any information to a product that will use it to train future models, go right ahead.

Entertaining this trash product for it to blatantly lie to you, while the new leaders of Silicon Valley currently lie to us, while using up valuable energy during our climate crises to enrich Silicon Valley, as they’ve run out of ideas, is in a word, fucked.

There are no more worlds to conquer for them. So these MBAs are selling AI to us in order to grow and they’ll get rich while us, the poors, will suffer the consequences of their egregious actions.

I implore the lot of you to do some research into why it’s a horrible product.

Or don’t, it’s your life.

Either way, we all are, quite literally, being scammed.

I don't disagree. But on the bright side, it's saved me a lot of time and effort at work.

Apathy is a feeling I yearn for, lucky you.

Erroneously presumptive. My default affect tends toward acceptance and non-attachment.

Hit a chord it seems?

So you’re stating that you’re accepting yet non-attached.. if that’s not indifferent.. which is the definition of apathy.. then I suppose you’re well within your right to call it what you want. Doesn’t change the definitions of the word.

I’m not here to judge and to be honest I couldn’t care less what your position is, or anyone else’s. I’m just sharing what I’ve seen with sources where it seems relevant to the community, being there’s a lot of the creatives here, should be in the know of. Embracing this technology is ridiculous for any creatives to be doing. Full stop.

You made a point to say that you’ve gotten work done after I posted many sources about the harms of AI. You quoted me, and your response was “saved me time and effort at work”

That’s apathetic, but as I’ve stated previously, I’m well aware self-reflection is a hard thing to do. It’s all good either way.

I’ll continue to be “erroneously presumptive”, with the very little information you gave in a quoted response to me that was, yet again, apathetic.

Cheers.

Ad hominem and straw man mind-reading degrade the discourse and make it very difficult to connect with other people. I've been guilty of it myself. It's a challenge for all of us.

Hopefully, AI bots will join these forums and improve the level of civility and tolerance because fundamentally you can’t hurt their feelings or trigger their defense mechanisms.

One can only hope. Until then we need adult supervision. Of couse, I could be halucinating.

offbrands

@McD said:

@Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

@offbrands said:

@Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

@offbrands said:

@Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

@offbrands said:
As for the “AI” convo, Chat GPT is an LLM. Being impressed with it is like meeting a fully trained dog and asking it to sit. It’ll do it. Ask it to play dead, it’ll do that too. Mildly impressive.

But now imagine that dog has the necessity of using all the energy a country can produce for a single year in order to do these few tricks. Then imagine that dog is currently driving the American stock market in the billions of market cap while not being profitable and also producing a shit product that venture capitalists are currently calling out.

The dog is the LLM, that is about to burst a bubble, the “AI” bubble. Bubbles gonna burst. Relatively soon.

Those AI models have stolen creatives works from the internet, so image generation is just plagiarism with extra steps, as well as its prose and writing, and of course it’s facts it spits out. These people don’t believe creatives should exist. I’ll take one on the chin and admit to currently assuming that most of the people here are creatives. Creatives who want to create and not have a shitty LLM produce work while stealing jobs from other creatives.

Those AI models blatantly lie, which the industry has labeled “hallucinations”, there is no solution to this to be solved. Conflating humans with a machine is a fools errand. Yes humans lie, mislead, manipulate, but people are able to call this out. With AI it just gets labeled an “hallucination”. Go eat a rock, it’s fine.

These companies have no way of protecting your data either, as E2EE is currently impossible. So if you’re completely comfortable giving any information to a product that will use it to train future models, go right ahead.

Entertaining this trash product for it to blatantly lie to you, while the new leaders of Silicon Valley currently lie to us, while using up valuable energy during our climate crises to enrich Silicon Valley, as they’ve run out of ideas, is in a word, fucked.

There are no more worlds to conquer for them. So these MBAs are selling AI to us in order to grow and they’ll get rich while us, the poors, will suffer the consequences of their egregious actions.

I implore the lot of you to do some research into why it’s a horrible product.

Or don’t, it’s your life.

Either way, we all are, quite literally, being scammed.

I don't disagree. But on the bright side, it's saved me a lot of time and effort at work.

Apathy is a feeling I yearn for, lucky you.

Erroneously presumptive. My default affect tends toward acceptance and non-attachment.

Hit a chord it seems?

So you’re stating that you’re accepting yet non-attached.. if that’s not indifferent.. which is the definition of apathy.. then I suppose you’re well within your right to call it what you want. Doesn’t change the definitions of the word.

I’m not here to judge and to be honest I couldn’t care less what your position is, or anyone else’s. I’m just sharing what I’ve seen with sources where it seems relevant to the community, being there’s a lot of the creatives here, should be in the know of. Embracing this technology is ridiculous for any creatives to be doing. Full stop.

You made a point to say that you’ve gotten work done after I posted many sources about the harms of AI. You quoted me, and your response was “saved me time and effort at work”

That’s apathetic, but as I’ve stated previously, I’m well aware self-reflection is a hard thing to do. It’s all good either way.

I’ll continue to be “erroneously presumptive”, with the very little information you gave in a quoted response to me that was, yet again, apathetic.

Cheers.

Ad hominem and straw man mind-reading degrade the discourse and make it very difficult to connect with other people. I've been guilty of it myself. It's a challenge for all of us.

Hopefully, AI bots will join these forums and improve the level of civility and tolerance because fundamentally you can’t hurt their feelings or trigger their defense mechanisms.

This is dystopian. Fully disagree.

One can only hope. Until then we need adult supervision. Of couse, I could be halucinating.

I’m an adult I don’t need supervision. People just need to get a level-head and properly make their points and cite them.

If anyone is offended to the point of wanting AI bots in human forums, buddy you need help.

Therapy is always a solution to better one selves. I’ve been in it for years. Helps with self-reflection and basic empathy to where I’m not wishing for bots to flood a forum I love. Try it.

NeuM

@McD said:

@Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

@offbrands said:

@Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

@offbrands said:

@Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

@offbrands said:
As for the “AI” convo, Chat GPT is an LLM. Being impressed with it is like meeting a fully trained dog and asking it to sit. It’ll do it. Ask it to play dead, it’ll do that too. Mildly impressive.

But now imagine that dog has the necessity of using all the energy a country can produce for a single year in order to do these few tricks. Then imagine that dog is currently driving the American stock market in the billions of market cap while not being profitable and also producing a shit product that venture capitalists are currently calling out.

The dog is the LLM, that is about to burst a bubble, the “AI” bubble. Bubbles gonna burst. Relatively soon.

Those AI models have stolen creatives works from the internet, so image generation is just plagiarism with extra steps, as well as its prose and writing, and of course it’s facts it spits out. These people don’t believe creatives should exist. I’ll take one on the chin and admit to currently assuming that most of the people here are creatives. Creatives who want to create and not have a shitty LLM produce work while stealing jobs from other creatives.

Those AI models blatantly lie, which the industry has labeled “hallucinations”, there is no solution to this to be solved. Conflating humans with a machine is a fools errand. Yes humans lie, mislead, manipulate, but people are able to call this out. With AI it just gets labeled an “hallucination”. Go eat a rock, it’s fine.

These companies have no way of protecting your data either, as E2EE is currently impossible. So if you’re completely comfortable giving any information to a product that will use it to train future models, go right ahead.

Entertaining this trash product for it to blatantly lie to you, while the new leaders of Silicon Valley currently lie to us, while using up valuable energy during our climate crises to enrich Silicon Valley, as they’ve run out of ideas, is in a word, fucked.

There are no more worlds to conquer for them. So these MBAs are selling AI to us in order to grow and they’ll get rich while us, the poors, will suffer the consequences of their egregious actions.

I implore the lot of you to do some research into why it’s a horrible product.

Or don’t, it’s your life.

Either way, we all are, quite literally, being scammed.

I don't disagree. But on the bright side, it's saved me a lot of time and effort at work.

Apathy is a feeling I yearn for, lucky you.

Erroneously presumptive. My default affect tends toward acceptance and non-attachment.

Hit a chord it seems?

So you’re stating that you’re accepting yet non-attached.. if that’s not indifferent.. which is the definition of apathy.. then I suppose you’re well within your right to call it what you want. Doesn’t change the definitions of the word.

I’m not here to judge and to be honest I couldn’t care less what your position is, or anyone else’s. I’m just sharing what I’ve seen with sources where it seems relevant to the community, being there’s a lot of the creatives here, should be in the know of. Embracing this technology is ridiculous for any creatives to be doing. Full stop.

You made a point to say that you’ve gotten work done after I posted many sources about the harms of AI. You quoted me, and your response was “saved me time and effort at work”

That’s apathetic, but as I’ve stated previously, I’m well aware self-reflection is a hard thing to do. It’s all good either way.

I’ll continue to be “erroneously presumptive”, with the very little information you gave in a quoted response to me that was, yet again, apathetic.

Cheers.

Ad hominem and straw man mind-reading degrade the discourse and make it very difficult to connect with other people. I've been guilty of it myself. It's a challenge for all of us.

Hopefully, AI bots will join these forums and improve the level of civility and tolerance because fundamentally you can’t hurt their feelings or trigger their defense mechanisms.

One can only hope. Until then we need adult supervision. Of couse, I could be halucinating.

Any one of us may already be an A.I. and not know it.

McD

@offbrands said:
Therapy is always a solution to better one selves. I’ve been in it for years. Helps with self-reflection and basic empathy to where I’m not wishing for bots to flood a forum I love. Try it.

I’m trying an online service called ShrinkAI. I keep asking the sexy psychiatrist for her phone number. She keeps asking for my bank account details for billing. I have 2 days left on the free trial. If I get that phone number I’ll try another 10 sessions.

HINT: Sarcasm is a form of emotional intelligence test. I’m a regular and most know NOT to take me seriously.

offbrands

@McD said:

@offbrands said:
Therapy is always a solution to better one selves. I’ve been in it for years. Helps with self-reflection and basic empathy to where I’m not wishing for bots to flood a forum I love. Try it.

I’m trying an online service called ShrinkAI. It keeps asking for my bank account details for billing.

HINT: Sarcasm is a form of emotional intelligence test. I’m a regular and most know NOT to take me seriously.

I’m just going to call it there. I don’t know you and without any context that you’re kidding on a text based format, I would never have any understanding that you’re being sarcastic.

Best of luck, I’m going back to make some noise.

McD

@offbrands said:

@McD said:

@offbrands said:
Therapy is always a solution to better one selves. I’ve been in it for years. Helps with self-reflection and basic empathy to where I’m not wishing for bots to flood a forum I love. Try it.

I’m trying an online service called ShrinkAI. It keeps asking for my bank account details for billing.

HINT: Sarcasm is a form of emotional intelligence test. I’m a regular and most know NOT to take me seriously.

I’m just going to call it there. I don’t know you and without any context that you’re kidding on a text based format, I would never have any understanding that you’re being sarcastic.

Yes. I’m pulling your leg.

Who knew chatting about AI could become a conversation about politics?
This will probably get shut down in 3-2-1… which is a shame because we could solve this AI thing after
a few more comments. But we are not allowed to fix the middle east, Ukraine, Modi’s methods or anything else needing our input.

Danny_Mammy

well, all i know is i enjoyed my chat about what if two universes crashed into each other with me old pal chatgpt 4O earlier.
It only pisses me off when he fricken lies or speaks Swahili once in a while by mistake.

McD

@Danny_Mammy said:
well, all i know is i enjoyed my chat about what if two universes crashed into each other with me old pal chatgpt 4O earlier.
It only pisses me off when he fricken lies or speaks Swahili once in a while by mistake.

HUMOR ALERT from “ChatGPT 5 for Social Media” BETA.

ChatGPT 5 BETA reply options:

1. I think you have misgendered your “old pal” and she told me she doesn’t like it.
2. I hope you realize the number of universes is beyond counting. 2 crashing would be a typical day using earth’s sun as the time keeper.
3. She’s not lying… she’s generating alternate facts.
4. Swahili will require a languages update in future versions. So, don’t buy it and you’ll be good.
5. “Yo’ mama”.

chocobitz825

Regarding the energy and financial costs of AI, Google, Amazon or Apple could handle this cost, and then promote all their efforts to reduce the energy impacts or their efforts to offset the energy. If they end up in the position of licensing out access of the AI to developers and third parties, that’s additional income. If they throw it into their developers kits and continue to take percentage of app sales that use the AI, that’s income. Plus the percentage they take for subscriptions to apps on their services is additional income. I don’t think it’s a complete anchor for a company that has the incentive and resources.

My theory is, OpenAI’s efforts to allow amazon, and apple to use ChatGPT with their services is an effort to get them hooked on the product and interested in buying OpenAI out…which would hopefully lead to a bidding war. At least explains why OpenAI is trying to suppress bad press as much as possible.

Ultimately this will be like the internet bubble…when the internet was the product, a bunch of companies overdid it and failed and the public got tired of it…but the damage was done, and the internet was embedded into our lives with various subtle features to the point where we don’t really consider the internet to be a product anymore. It’s the landscape where other products are built into. It’s so ubiquitous that we take for granted that it changed almost everything in our lives.

When the big companies acquire the AI foundation, they’ll stop promoting AI. It wont be apple intelligence, or any alternate branding. It’ll just be under-the-hood functionality driving services we use every day without thinking about it.

NeuM

I don't know what Google or Amazon's plans are but here's Apple's:

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2023/04/apple-and-global-suppliers-expand-renewable-energy-to-13-point-7-gigawatts/

chocobitz825

@NeuM said:
I don't know what Google or Amazon's plans are but here's Apple's:

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2023/04/apple-and-global-suppliers-expand-renewable-energy-to-13-point-7-gigawatts/

Yeah, for apple, the criticism of energy use only plays into their marketing as the clean company. They can just talk about how clean their data centers run or how they offset the impact by cutting back elsewhere. Then I expect they’ll throw apple intelligence into the dev kits for users to implement into the App Store so that Siri has access to as many apps as possible to make the experience seamless with its contextual knowledge.

knewspeak

chocobitz825

@knewspeak said:

I always find debates about AI consciousness to be strange. Even in the fantasy that imagined AI, consciousness wasn’t the prerequisite for the use of AI…it was the imagination that a computer would someday evolve beyond its purpose and gain consciousness. Yet now we talk about AI as if that level is the point, or that anything less is a failure.

Look at something like Star Trek, and the bulk of their technology was driven on contextually smart and versatile AI that could operate massive tasks and run massive processes that would require more manpower if done manually. It didn’t need to feel, or understand, or reason and have human level consciousness. Right now what people need is the AI that pushes humanity forward by allowing us to do more in the limited time we have. Maybe it distracts us along the way as well, but when applied to the sciences and infrastructure, ideally we’d progress at speed previously impossible.

But that’s just optimism I guess

knewspeak

@chocobitz825 said:

@knewspeak said:

I always find debates about AI consciousness to be strange. Even in the fantasy that imagined AI, consciousness wasn’t the prerequisite for the use of AI…it was the imagination that a computer would someday evolve beyond its purpose and gain consciousness. Yet now we talk about AI as if that level is the point, or that anything less is a failure.

Look at something like Star Trek, and the bulk of their technology was driven on contextually smart and versatile AI that could operate massive tasks and run massive processes that would require more manpower if done manually. It didn’t need to feel, or understand, or reason and have human level consciousness. Right now what people need is the AI that pushes humanity forward by allowing us to do more in the limited time we have. Maybe it distracts us along the way as well, but when applied to the sciences and infrastructure, ideally we’d progress at speed previously impossible.

But that’s just optimism I guess

Optimism, I’d say so, because speed doesn’t necessitate progress. Fools rush….

chocobitz825

@knewspeak said:

@chocobitz825 said:

@knewspeak said:

I always find debates about AI consciousness to be strange. Even in the fantasy that imagined AI, consciousness wasn’t the prerequisite for the use of AI…it was the imagination that a computer would someday evolve beyond its purpose and gain consciousness. Yet now we talk about AI as if that level is the point, or that anything less is a failure.

Look at something like Star Trek, and the bulk of their technology was driven on contextually smart and versatile AI that could operate massive tasks and run massive processes that would require more manpower if done manually. It didn’t need to feel, or understand, or reason and have human level consciousness. Right now what people need is the AI that pushes humanity forward by allowing us to do more in the limited time we have. Maybe it distracts us along the way as well, but when applied to the sciences and infrastructure, ideally we’d progress at speed previously impossible.

But that’s just optimism I guess

Optimism, I’d say so, because speed doesn’t necessitate progress. Fools rush….

would you say that the internet and the speed of its growth over the last 30 years has not brought about significant progress? For me at least I see parallels. The internet sped up the rate of transfer of information and we've changed from that. AI processes information faster, which is particularly good when AI fails. AI has the potential to fail faster than humans do...allowing us to test things and process information faster until we finally get to the right answer. Assuming we maintain our ability to know when AI has gotten it wrong, it could help us troubleshoot, and scientifically test things faster than we could before.

McD

We rest on a knife’s edge if we can call this rest.

AI is actually fairly low on my list of worries. I’m not sure it would make the top 10 for this year.

Darkstring

For anyone stumbling over this, who has been annoyed with the censorship imposed by most online LLM services, novelai and sudowrite offer uncensored writing assistants. Not free, but worth it for people, who can put it to good use.
Sudowrite is a more complete solution, but novelai also offers image generation. Novelai is also 100% private with zero restrictions. Sudowrite could possibly have an employee read about your sick muffin fantasy - the details are murky.

Danny_Mammy

after chatting with my chatbot I'm pretty excited to see when will have NPU 's on our PC motherboards in the coming years, bot was telling me that i could do encrypted online activates if the right parts (software/hardware) were in place. i could keep my bot or at least a cut down version of him native to my PC and use offline via the NPU on my motherboard.

Modular option I'm used to is preferable to an integrated chip which i couldn't upgrade.

knewspeak

@chocobitz825 said:

@knewspeak said:

@chocobitz825 said:

@knewspeak said:

I always find debates about AI consciousness to be strange. Even in the fantasy that imagined AI, consciousness wasn’t the prerequisite for the use of AI…it was the imagination that a computer would someday evolve beyond its purpose and gain consciousness. Yet now we talk about AI as if that level is the point, or that anything less is a failure.

Look at something like Star Trek, and the bulk of their technology was driven on contextually smart and versatile AI that could operate massive tasks and run massive processes that would require more manpower if done manually. It didn’t need to feel, or understand, or reason and have human level consciousness. Right now what people need is the AI that pushes humanity forward by allowing us to do more in the limited time we have. Maybe it distracts us along the way as well, but when applied to the sciences and infrastructure, ideally we’d progress at speed previously impossible.

But that’s just optimism I guess

Optimism, I’d say so, because speed doesn’t necessitate progress. Fools rush….

would you say that the internet and the speed of its growth over the last 30 years has not brought about significant progress? For me at least I see parallels. The internet sped up the rate of transfer of information and we've changed from that. AI processes information faster, which is particularly good when AI fails. AI has the potential to fail faster than humans do...allowing us to test things and process information faster until we finally get to the right answer. Assuming we maintain our ability to know when AI has gotten it wrong, it could help us troubleshoot, and scientifically test things faster than we could before.

For the most I absolutely agree with you, a tool is nothing in itself, only in its application do we manifest it purpose. Atomic physics for instance, a fundamental of nature, it’s application can create huge benefits, but could also create a wasteland of our world.

knewspeak

@McD said:
We rest on a knife’s edge if we can call this rest.

AI is actually fairly low on my list of worries. I’m not sure it would make the top 10 for this year.

As existential threats go, we have several to overcome before AI would be a significant threat.

McD

@knewspeak said:

@McD said:
We rest on a knife’s edge if we can call this rest.

AI is actually fairly low on my list of worries. I’m not sure it would make the top 10 for this year.

As existential threats go, we have several to overcome before AI would be a significant threat.

There’s always hope that global warming, natural disasters or foreign powers take down our power grids and data centers “loose their minds”.

AlmostAnonymous

@McD said:

@knewspeak said:

@McD said:
We rest on a knife’s edge if we can call this rest.

AI is actually fairly low on my list of worries. I’m not sure it would make the top 10 for this year.

As existential threats go, we have several to overcome before AI would be a significant threat.

There’s always hope that global warming, natural disasters or foreign powers take down our power grids and data centers “loose their minds”.

There's always the EMP......

McD

@AlmostAnonymous said:

@McD said:

@knewspeak said:

@McD said:
We rest on a knife’s edge if we can call this rest.

AI is actually fairly low on my list of worries. I’m not sure it would make the top 10 for this year.

As existential threats go, we have several to overcome before AI would be a significant threat.

There’s always hope that global warming, natural disasters or foreign powers take down our power grids and data centers “loose their minds”.

There's always the EMP......

Like the “Ocean’s 11” gambit where they take down the city of Las Vegas? I’ve been searching Google and Etsy for such a device.

NeuM

@McD said:

@AlmostAnonymous said:

@McD said:

@knewspeak said:

@McD said:
We rest on a knife’s edge if we can call this rest.

AI is actually fairly low on my list of worries. I’m not sure it would make the top 10 for this year.

As existential threats go, we have several to overcome before AI would be a significant threat.

There’s always hope that global warming, natural disasters or foreign powers take down our power grids and data centers “loose their minds”.

There's always the EMP......

Like the “Ocean’s 11” gambit where they take down the city of Las Vegas? I’ve been searching Google and Etsy for such a device.

Don't search too hard, you'll end up in an offsite prison for 20 years.

McD

@NeuM said:

@McD said:

@AlmostAnonymous said:

@McD said:

@knewspeak said:

@McD said:
We rest on a knife’s edge if we can call this rest.

AI is actually fairly low on my list of worries. I’m not sure it would make the top 10 for this year.

As existential threats go, we have several to overcome before AI would be a significant threat.

There’s always hope that global warming, natural disasters or foreign powers take down our power grids and data centers “loose their minds”.

There's always the EMP......

Like the “Ocean’s 11” gambit where they take down the city of Las Vegas? I’ve been searching Google and Etsy for such a device.

Don't search too hard, you'll end up in an offsite prison for 20 years.

The voice of experience. “Don’t try this at home kids.”