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XP4N: I made a (photography) thing!

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  • @wim said:
    wtf? Those mirrored shots are outstanding @sugus !

    Indeed. Very arresting architectures possible using this technique. Kudos for the mind blowing images.

  • @McD said:

    @wim said:
    wtf? Those mirrored shots are outstanding @sugus !

    Indeed. Very arresting architectures possible using this technique. Kudos for the mind blowing images.

    Yeah they are incredible 🙌

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  • @richardyot said:
    Couldn't choose between Balanced or High Contrast BW, so I'll post both.

    Hands down, I like B&W versions more! 😌 Great shots! 🤩

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  • @skiphunt said:

    @Luxthor said:
    I finally tested the new ‘neon’ mode in action. Although I was skeptical, in some situations this mode can do magic.

    Nice. I haven’t got around to playing with the new version yet. Kinda decided to get back into regular cameras again. Bought some new m43 gear, some new glass, and some weird cctv lenses and a few cheap Chinese lenses to experiment with.

    Kinda missed having more creative decisions and missed the depth you get with various focal lengths. The iPhone images seem to have too much of a flat look, and a lack of depth.

    Don’t get me wrong, I still love the convenience of iPhone photography and Bram’s app is still my favorite… but I forgot how much more depth you get from a larger sensor and more glass.

    Still, looking forward to trying it the new update! Neon looks like my jam :)

    For me, experimenting with a limited format makes me think twice and be picky with my motives, like in the film era. I agree with you that smartphone image quality is incomparable to true camera systems and is barely usable for street photography, except for making you inconspicuous. 😌

    I also like this thread because of the clean, unprocessed XP4N photos and the generally positive mood. It’s like a sort of mini photography discipline. 👌 Neon mode can really make magic, but only in certain situations. I’m sure you will love it. ;)

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    @skiphunt said:

    @lasselu said:

    Nice 😊 is this the “ethereal” soft focus film type?

    Darn, we should have had this mode during Christmas, oh well… BTW, @lasselu, great shot! 🤩

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  • @Luxthor said:

    @skiphunt said:

    @lasselu said:

    Nice 😊 is this the “ethereal” soft focus film type?

    Darn, we should have had this mode during Christmas, oh well… BTW, @lasselu, great shot! 🤩

    Thanks!

  • wimwim
    edited January 31

    @lasselu said:

    🏆🥇

  • @Luxthor said:

    @skiphunt said:

    @Tarekith said:
    Loving the gritty look lately.

    Nice 👍🏼 Where is this?

    Just look at that breathtaking horizon. 🤩

    Central Oregon.

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    Hi Bram
    I think I may have stumbled upon a hidden or experimental feature (unless I have been asleep and it has been there all the time)! Whilst using the app I accidentally discovered that if I press and hold the shutter button, I get a thumbnail viewer showing photos from my camera roll. If I select one of them, XP4N seems to process it using whichever film type I currently have selected and gives me the message: "FYI Imported image was processed and saved to the camera roll".

    Lo and behold, I have a new image in my camera roll! I am one of the folk that have been asking for the option to take simultaneous photos in multiple film types but this possibly goes one better in that I can take a previously captured shot and it will be re-processed using whatever film type I have selected first.

    So I can, for example take a shot using, say 'Daylight' + 'Unprocessed'. Then use this feature to subsequently re-process the 'Unprocessed' shot (or the 'Daylight' one) into B&W.

    If this feature is what I think it is then this is fantastic and kudos to you for adding it.

    Is the intention that in re-processing an 'Unprocessed' shot in a given film type that it should yield the same results as if that selected film type was used when taking the shot?

    It does raise a few questions though ... it would seem most useful for this feature to only apply to any shots that have been saved as 'Unprocessed' but the feature seems to apply to any photo from the photo roll, so I could, for example use it to run the 'Daylight' film type on an already captured 'B&W' shot. That gives an interesting result as it stays in B&W but with warmer tones.

    I have more questions but I thought I'd leave it there for now for your comments.
    Lee

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    It was intended. It’s what I use for testing. I didn’t advertise it because it has some issues retrieving EXIF data from photos not taken by the iPhone and very-high-resolution pictures are scaled down (and people would surely start nagging me about that).

    But if you don’t mind that, go wild and have fun :)

  • @brambos said:
    It was intended. It’s what I use for testing. I didn’t advertise it because it has some issues retrieving EXIF data from photos not taken by the iPhone and very-high-resolution pictures are scaled down (and people would surely start nagging me about that).

    But if you don’t mind that, go wild and have fun :)

    Thanks Bram. So for clarification is it true that:

    Re-processing a shot saved by XP4N as 'Unprocessed' in a chosen film type should yield the same result as if we had selected that film type when taking the shot in the first place?

    (I had always assumed that the app created the 'Unprocessed' version first and then manipulated it to produce the image for the given film type. The existing option to save 'Unprocessed' alongside the chosen film type was always a nice bonus but if the above is true, it can now be used a starting point for creating extra shots in other film types.)

    The feature will also re-process any other shot too, including those not created by XP4N but the results from that should be viewed as for fun with varying results all depending on the start and end points!

    Thanks
    Lee

  • @lsdphoto said:

    @brambos said:
    It was intended. It’s what I use for testing. I didn’t advertise it because it has some issues retrieving EXIF data from photos not taken by the iPhone and very-high-resolution pictures are scaled down (and people would surely start nagging me about that).

    But if you don’t mind that, go wild and have fun :)

    Thanks Bram. So for clarification is it true that:

    Re-processing a shot saved by XP4N as 'Unprocessed' in a chosen film type should yield the same result as if we had selected that film type when taking the shot in the first place?

    With some caveats, yes. I won't save a 48 Mpix image (it will scale it down to the normal pixel-binned resolution). That's an Apple thing, and since I didn't intend to make this an official feature I'm not planning to figure out why it does this B)

    It should take the EXIF exposure data from the unprocessed image and use that to correctly apply the film type, but I won't 100% guarantee that it does. If it can't retrieve the exposure data correctly it will assume you're shooting at night (which will maximize the effects of e.g. halation and neon).

    (I had always assumed that the app created the 'Unprocessed' version first and then manipulated it to produce the image for the given film type. The existing option to save 'Unprocessed' alongside the chosen film type was always a nice bonus but if the above is true, it can now be used a starting point for creating extra shots in other film types.)

    If you're shooting in JPEG (as opposed to HEIF), it will re-compress the JPEG again. It's probably not very noticeable and it uses maximum JPEG quality, but it could cause some minor quality degradation.

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    Still say an option to shoot all 8 film types at once and let us choose or delete the ones we don’t need would be a great feature. Like assessing Contact Sheets and making final Selects - easily done in the photos app. Just need the pictures taken with one shutter press.

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    @Krupa said:

    @wim said:
    btw, XP4N is amazing for photographing UFOs!

    I'd love to post mine but had a visit from a couple of guys from the government last night who made it very clear what would happen to me if I did.

    I’ll take the hit…

    Awesome, grabbed me right away. It's a bit crazy how many stunning photos are in this thread. What an amazing app (and photographers).

  • @richardyot said:

    Great mood

  • @brambos said:

    @lsdphoto said:

    Re-processing a shot saved by XP4N as 'Unprocessed' in a chosen film type should yield the same result as if we had selected that film type when taking the shot in the first place?

    With some caveats, yes. I won't save a 48 Mpix image (it will scale it down to the normal pixel-binned resolution). That's an Apple thing, and since I didn't intend to make this an official feature I'm not planning to figure out why it does this B)

    It should take the EXIF exposure data from the unprocessed image and use that to correctly apply the film type, but I won't 100% guarantee that it does. If it can't retrieve the exposure data correctly it will assume you're shooting at night (which will maximize the effects of e.g. halation and neon).

    Some observations:

    I did some tests today. I took a shot in each film type, making sure to also save 'Unprocessed' for each one. When I got home I processed each of the 'Unprocessed' shots again to the matching film type as originally taken. Then for each film type I did a comparison between the original as taken by XP4N and the later re-processed version.

    I pleased to say that most of them pretty well matched - there were minor differences in the histograms but they looked identical. The only film type that did not look exactly the same was 'Ethereal' - for some reason the re-processed version was 'less ethereal', i.e. didn't have the same level of soft focus.

    Also, I noticed that the re-processed versions were missing EXIF data.

    BTW the only film types I did not try were the two night modes, so I am not sure how they would compare.

    Lee

  • wimwim
    edited February 3

    Man, there have been a couple of shots posted lately that I would happily enlarge and hang in my home any day.

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