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Zoom LiveTrak L6, battery-powered digital mixer and recorder for live jams

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  • new low budget video -

  • Preorders look like they’re up on most sites, shipping mid-late oct or nov?

  • I took a look at the manual, and multitrack recording looks like it’s all or nothing. You can’t play back one track while recording another. Also, I think every take is a new file. No “just do it again.”

  • Gonna be honest I don’t think I would use the on board recording all that much? Multitrack in AUM most likely

  • @garden said:
    I took a look at the manual, and multitrack recording looks like it’s all or nothing. You can’t play back one track while recording another. Also, I think every take is a new file. No “just do it again.”

    I think its recording is just intended for real-time multi-input capture.

  • wimwim
    edited September 30

    @Goldiblockz said:

    Would much rather have a single small hardware interface/mixer next to my ipad than an army of related single purpose things. Basically wanted a more consumer/price friendly TX-6. I think it will be faster to either make my own midi controller, or just make a digital channel strip in another instance of LP for my phone/another ipad, at this rate.

    There's very little chance you could build a more cost effective and feature rich midi controller for the Loopy Pro mixer and other things than the M-Vave SMC mixer.

    Trying to combine an audio mixer and a midi controller in one device is probably going to be more trouble than it's worth. Sounds like a good idea, but in practical terms doesn't make a lot of sense IMO.

  • edited September 30

    Saw it for $249 on Amazon via Pre-Order:

  • Think these are going to sell like hot cakes.

  • the eurorack compatibility is a nice touch.

  • Dollar for dollar, this seems like an excellent way to add more physical inputs to a setup. I know there are some super cheap interfaces out there with more inputs, but they're so noisy I wouldn't want to use them for recording dry samples or that sort of thing. I hope the signal with this is transparent - we'd be lucky if it's comparable to the Zoom UAC-232.

  • Does anyone know if it is possible to record one or more inputs while at the same time playing some previously recorded stuff?
    Thanks in advance!

  • @alvescarlos said:
    Does anyone know if it is possible to record one or more inputs while at the same time playing some previously recorded stuff?
    Thanks in advance!

    it doesn't have that multi track play back tech (i cant remember the name) like some mixers do.

    it does have sample playback, it has 4 slots where you can download audio files and play them back, however there is no sync .. you manually trigger the 4 pads.

    this is my understanding, i could be wrong.

  • @alvescarlos said:
    Does anyone know if it is possible to record one or more inputs while at the same time playing some previously recorded stuff?
    Thanks in advance!

    Record/play on the L6 looks to be all or nothing, I have a suspicion the older L8 is more capable in this area.

  • @alvescarlos said:
    Does anyone know if it is possible to record one or more inputs while at the same time playing some previously recorded stuff?
    Thanks in advance!

    The manual gives the impression that the recording is meant for live multitrack capture and not for portastudio-like multitracking.

  • edited October 16

    I just got mine in and I don't see the USB channel inputs in AUM - just master inputs. Do see both output channels. Obviously a deal breaker for anyone planning to use this as an audio interface on iOS.

    Works fine in Ableton where I see all the USB inputs, of course. Did have to install a driver. Wonder if it's not class compliant?


  • @thomasb 😮

    From the product page:
    The L6 can be used as a 32-bit float 12-in / 4-out USB audio interface for your computer, iOS, or Android device while recording simultaneously to the microSD card. It’s also a control surface for your favorite DAW.

    Sounds like a firmware update is due?
    Or is there any setting you can change on the hardware?

  • edited October 16

    Just fired off a support request on https://zoomcorp.com/en/us/contact/ - will see what they say.

    No firmware updates yet but I seem to be like the first person in the world to have received one of these things, so maybe this is something they were still fixing up. There's also no Mac drivers yet (unlike Windows), wonder if this is an issue for Macs as well?

  • @thomasb said:
    Just fired off a support request on https://zoomcorp.com/en/us/contact/ - will see what they say.

    No firmware updates yet but I seem to be like the first person in the world to have received one of these things, so maybe this is something they were still fixing up. There's also no Mac drivers yet (unlike Windows), wonder if this is an issue for Macs as well?

    I've just had a look through the manual and you can change the settings for USB audio using the L6 Editor.

    Change Recorder Mode to "Multi track" because it sounds like it's set to "Master Only".

  • edited October 16

    @Gravitas said:

    @thomasb said:
    Just fired off a support request on https://zoomcorp.com/en/us/contact/ - will see what they say.

    No firmware updates yet but I seem to be like the first person in the world to have received one of these things, so maybe this is something they were still fixing up. There's also no Mac drivers yet (unlike Windows), wonder if this is an issue for Macs as well?

    I've just had a look through the manual and you can change the settings for USB audio using the L6 Editor.

    Change Recorder Mode to "Multi track" because it sounds like it's set to "Master Only".

    This just affects the recording to SD card, not the audio interface. It also defaults to Multi track mode.

    Again, all 12 input channels show up with the Windows drivers and Ableton, so I don't think this is a configuration setting. I figure it's not currently class-compliant and they'll need to make an update, but I also don't see them claiming it's class-compliant anywhere, so maybe that's intentional and they just... forgot that would be a problem on iOS.

    I'll also note it's entirely possible I have some weird cursed problem with my iPad, given that I don't have another >2 input audio interface to test this with. Have checked and it just shows up as a single pair of inputs in Garage Band, Drambo, and AUM. Would be happy if this was somehow just a problem on my end or if it's something that was intended to be fixed in a quick firmware update and they just sent me this too quickly.

  • @thomasb said:

    @Gravitas said:

    @thomasb said:
    Just fired off a support request on https://zoomcorp.com/en/us/contact/ - will see what they say.

    No firmware updates yet but I seem to be like the first person in the world to have received one of these things, so maybe this is something they were still fixing up. There's also no Mac drivers yet (unlike Windows), wonder if this is an issue for Macs as well?

    I've just had a look through the manual and you can change the settings for USB audio using the L6 Editor.

    Change Recorder Mode to "Multi track" because it sounds like it's set to "Master Only".

    This just affects the recording to SD card, not the audio interface. It also defaults to Multi track mode.

    Again, all 12 input channels show up with the Windows drivers and Ableton, so I don't think this is a configuration setting. I figure it's not currently class-compliant and they'll need to make an update, but I also don't see them claiming it's class-compliant anywhere, so maybe that's intentional and they just... forgot that would be a problem on iOS.

    Ahhh,... I thought that would've been for the USB configuration as well.
    Maybe their idea of class compliant is two in/four out.

    I'll also note it's entirely possible I have some weird cursed problem with my iPad, given that I don't have another >2 input audio interface to test this with. Have checked and it just shows up as a single pair of inputs in Garage Band, Drambo, and AUM. Would be happy if this was somehow just a problem on my end or if it's something that was intended to be fixed in a quick firmware update and they just sent me this too quickly.

    It would be good to know all round.
    Let's see what Zoom replies with.

  • edited October 17

    @Gravitas said:

    @thomasb said:

    @Gravitas said:

    @thomasb said:
    Just fired off a support request on https://zoomcorp.com/en/us/contact/ - will see what they say.

    No firmware updates yet but I seem to be like the first person in the world to have received one of these things, so maybe this is something they were still fixing up. There's also no Mac drivers yet (unlike Windows), wonder if this is an issue for Macs as well?

    I've just had a look through the manual and you can change the settings for USB audio using the L6 Editor.

    Change Recorder Mode to "Multi track" because it sounds like it's set to "Master Only".

    This just affects the recording to SD card, not the audio interface. It also defaults to Multi track mode.

    Again, all 12 input channels show up with the Windows drivers and Ableton, so I don't think this is a configuration setting. I figure it's not currently class-compliant and they'll need to make an update, but I also don't see them claiming it's class-compliant anywhere, so maybe that's intentional and they just... forgot that would be a problem on iOS.

    Ahhh,... I thought that would've been for the USB configuration as well.
    Maybe their idea of class compliant is two in/four out.

    I'll also note it's entirely possible I have some weird cursed problem with my iPad, given that I don't have another >2 input audio interface to test this with. Have checked and it just shows up as a single pair of inputs in Garage Band, Drambo, and AUM. Would be happy if this was somehow just a problem on my end or if it's something that was intended to be fixed in a quick firmware update and they just sent me this too quickly.

    It would be good to know all round.
    Let's see what Zoom replies with.

    Zoom have clearly stated that the 12 inputs are available on iOS so I guess it's only a matter of time when that will be fixed.

    Here's the current compatibility matrix:
    https://zoomcorp.com/documents/1336/MTR_DAW_compatibility_2024SEP_E.pdf

  • @rs2000 said:

    @Gravitas said:

    @thomasb said:

    @Gravitas said:

    @thomasb said:
    Just fired off a support request on https://zoomcorp.com/en/us/contact/ - will see what they say.

    No firmware updates yet but I seem to be like the first person in the world to have received one of these things, so maybe this is something they were still fixing up. There's also no Mac drivers yet (unlike Windows), wonder if this is an issue for Macs as well?

    I've just had a look through the manual and you can change the settings for USB audio using the L6 Editor.

    Change Recorder Mode to "Multi track" because it sounds like it's set to "Master Only".

    This just affects the recording to SD card, not the audio interface. It also defaults to Multi track mode.

    Again, all 12 input channels show up with the Windows drivers and Ableton, so I don't think this is a configuration setting. I figure it's not currently class-compliant and they'll need to make an update, but I also don't see them claiming it's class-compliant anywhere, so maybe that's intentional and they just... forgot that would be a problem on iOS.

    Ahhh,... I thought that would've been for the USB configuration as well.
    Maybe their idea of class compliant is two in/four out.

    I'll also note it's entirely possible I have some weird cursed problem with my iPad, given that I don't have another >2 input audio interface to test this with. Have checked and it just shows up as a single pair of inputs in Garage Band, Drambo, and AUM. Would be happy if this was somehow just a problem on my end or if it's something that was intended to be fixed in a quick firmware update and they just sent me this too quickly.

    It would be good to know all round.
    Let's see what Zoom replies with.

    Zoom have clearly stated that the 12 inputs are available on iOS so I guess it's only a matter of time when that will be fixed.

    Yeah, you're right.
    I've just had a look myself.
    It's suppose to be compatible with both iOS 16 and 17.
    Their most probably working on an iOS18 right now thinking about it.

    Has anyone tried the L6 with other iOS versions?

  • The more I look at this the more I like it.

  • edited October 21

    @Gravitas Looks like you may have been right on the money with your iOS compatibility thought - someone on the Elektronauts forum with an older iPad has got all the inputs showing up in iOS 16.

    Zoom support was quick to get back to me and confirm an issue that engineers are looking into, so I suspect there may be an iOS 18 issue. Hopefully something fixable with a firmware update.

    I'm a little surprised by this just because I haven't heard many issues of missing inputs on other audio interfaces in iOS 18, you'd think it'd be a wider issue than just one device.

  • @thomasb said:
    @Gravitas Looks like you may have been right on the money with your iOS compatibility thought - someone on the Elektronauts forum with an older iPad has got all the inputs showing up in iOS 16.

    Zoom support was quick to get back to me and confirm an issue that engineers are looking into, so I suspect there may be an iOS 18 issue. Hopefully something fixable with a firmware update.

    I'm a little surprised by this just because I haven't heard many issues of missing inputs on other audio interfaces in iOS 18, you'd think it'd be a wider issue than just one device.

    Good to know.

    Maybe iOS users are reluctant to update.
    We all know an update could break quite a few things.

  • edited October 22

    Hi there,

    so glad I found this topic! I too have bought the ZOOM L-6 and wanted to use it with my DJI Osmo Pocket 3. Since the ZOOM AMS-Series works completely fine with that camera, I thought I'll give it a try. Well, at first I thought it doesn't work at all. But then I realized that the audio from the camera is going into the ZOOM. So it's a one way connection.

    I also tested my iPhone and iPad and both worked fine - until today. My iPhone did an update over night to the newest iOS and stopped working!

    I do have hope that one day all of these devices will work, because I LOVE LOVE LOVE the L-6. The form factor and features is exactly what I hoped to have 10 years ago, when I hijacked an old R16 to use as a little monitoring mixer for In Ear Monitoring. I can record all the inputs without a separate computer and listen to rehearsals and shows at home. It's just so darn convenient!

    BUT: I still want to be able to send the audio to my Phone and the DJI Osmo Pocket 3. The built in compressor does wonders for that application! I know I should not hope for features that are not implemented at the time of buying, but I think I'm not sending it back. Fingers crossed!

  • edited October 29

    You know i couldn’t resist:

    Works fine for me on iOS 18.1 iPad Pro M1 in AUM as well.

  • Bumping this thread.., now that these are out I am seriously considering one… it can multitrack into AUM yeah?

  • edited November 8

    yes you have 10 inputs + master channel and 4 outputs in aum. works great for me.

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