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New iPad Mini
Ships 23rd of October.
TLDR
It's pretty much the old iPad with the A17 Pro chip (so it'll work with Apple Intelligence), Pencil pro support (so you get to buy a new pencil too, yay!), new 128GB base storage... and new colours.
Everything else is pretty much as we were.
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Ha, I've kind of waited for this, thanks for the info!
^^^ Inflation has left nothing untouched these days… even ‘mini’ things.
£799 for 512Gb+WiFi
You need a new pencil too — the two new ones (Pro and USB c) are required not the last gen Apple Pencil.
No 1TB tier
And the same jelly wobble screen as the old mini.
Not very exciting tbh. Can’t see a single reason it makes sense over the air unless you have freakishly small hands.
Wasn't the screen supposed to be fixed for this release? (ie. controller on the long side instead of the short side?).
Remains to be seen how badly this new Mini will get 'butchered'...
Logic as one example requires M-Class CPU for stem-separation (Even though the A17Pro would more than likely be able to do it too).
M1 would have totally ruined the battery time for it so the omission of that one is quite understandable...
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Reports are it’s the same display. You’d hope they would fix it but the display was already pretty poor when the last mini was released. There’s not a lot of love for this model from Apple.
In a parallel universe they’d have mini as a screen size option on the full range of iPads.
I'm probably the only one excited for the Mini 7. 512gb is the minimum storage I need for music production. I like the smaller form factor, but won't lie the iPhone Pro Max 14's screen is a bit limited (as well as a lot of apps being iPad-only). No Apple Pencil 2nd Gen support (afaik) kinda sucks for the Mini 7, but I'm sure I'd get a new Pencil Pro eventually anyways for my professional digital art in ProCreate.
As soon as I can get it via Amazon Affirm Loan, I'm in.
It’s a good little iPad for general purpose use and most people won’t care about the things we do…
One issue though is that it only has 2 performance cores. An M2 Air has 4 power cores. Although the M4 iPad Pros only have 3 P cores unless you get the 1TB model.
The one thing that drives me mad about Apple though is the excessive cost for storage upgrades. They really are stingy with the base configs too.
That's no lie. Apple is that type of corporation with one of those "you can't live with them, can't live without them" sort of deals, lol.
You get what you pay for and a lot of their products are amazing quality and work out good value of their life span. But the cost of the storage (and ram on desktop) upgrades is way over the top and ends up making you feel bad about upgrading.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Apple products are not made for the price sensitive. But if one has the money and they are not prone to regret after spending it, then enjoy.
Indeed. Then again, Amazon's Affirm Loans often take away the sting of how pricey these Apple products can become. Pay it off over time, and then write off on taxes if music and/or digital art is/are your main source(s) of income. That said, I hope you do have Affirm in your country, mate.
I've yet to regret an Apple purchase to be honest. My Apple Watch might've been a needless purchase I admit, but I still love the hell out of it.
Same here on the Watch. I just love it.
@jwmmakerofmusic I'm with you. All I need is a mini with a good cpu, and the a17 pro benchmark looks great in my opinion
I was sad when I gave you my iPad mini 6 for the iPad pro4. The weight and holding the new iPad makes a huge difference. The mini is almost a perfect device and for traveling. As long as it can run most of Logic Pro I’m good. Don’t really need the stem splitter. That’s just extra on the side. Beathawk and gadget is perfect for the mini also. And of course reading books on ibooks . the mini is the winner. I’m just interested in the speaker output if it got louder? The website believe it says the mini screen is the anti glare now.
I thought I wanted stage manager but never used it or figured it out and the mini is made for 18.1 so that’s a plus and of course I’ll keep the iPad Pro for larger projects and for work.
The mini does have a place. I got one for each of my family members.
Looking forward... For cheaper minis gen 6 when they release the new model
I wonder if they’ll add in the A17 Pro to the lineup for stem separation because that would push move to letting the M1 Pro 11 I have go for a Mini 7. I’ve always loved the mini size but couldn’t sacrifice the power. Really want to see a 120hz screen on it one day but for now its just a dream.
I’m glad there’s an upgrade and I’ll be looking forward to grabbing it in a few years when my mini 6 stops being the most amazing thing I’ve ever owned!
Still no headphone jack. I really do miss those.
Yeah, the adaptors are annoying and take up the only port. Then you add extra dongles and before you know it. your nice light portable device is weighed down with anchors.
My MacBook Pro has taken over from my iPad as my music making device of choice. It has a headphone jack. Luxury. And I can plug in a little USB keyboard at the same time without need an additional box.
Having said that I like the idea of the Mini for making music that’s different to using my DAW on Mac. Lightweight and fun to leverage all the best of iOS.
The A17 Pro is the chip that Apple used in the iPhone 15 Pros, so it's not the latest A-series chip from the 16s. It's the minimum spec for Apple Intelligence, so I guess there's a slight possibility. Apple rarely go back to add features on previously unsupported hardware. The only time I can recall them doing so was with Stage Manager but that was before the feature actually shipped.
@klownshed There’s a also 512 gig storage option
Yea just wishful thinking. I think I’ll just stick with my M1 Pro for a bit longer
They might! I’ll be you my jam doughnut that they don’t though.
M1 Pro is definitely the better device.
The M1s stack up well still I think… my M1 MBP is the best Apple computer I think I’ve ever had. And I’ve had a lot.
I can never get enough of this dudes 'parodies'
I agree 100%. I love my M1 Pro 11 but the form factor of the mini is just perfect for me. If they took the power and 120hz screen of the Pros and put them into a mini I’d pay whatever they ask. I’m also rocking a M1 Pro MacBook Pro 14 and it’s hands down the best valued laptop I’ve ever owned. Can’t see myself needing to upgrade any time soon
If all I used was Gadget, mate, 64gb or even 128gb would definitely be sufficient. But, I have many romplers which take up so much space (especially XinematiX and PSP2, which I recently noticed had a new piano IAP I immediately purchased). Then of course there are the many sample packs I use.
And once I get a new 512gb Mini 7, I will also get Oneshot at last.
I'm hoping to snag a purple one, but eh. Space Gray is fine too.
It indeed does mate.
I may download full Logic to it rather than barebones Logic for Mastering only. Hopefully stem separation in Logic works on the Mini 7. I'll definitely find out one way or another. Koala's stem separation is serviceable enough, but not quite the quality what I heard come from Logic in various videos!
Hahaha. Good one.
But underestimating tablets with 8" screens seems to be a global issue. A few months ago I wanted to get ipad mini equivalent with android and there are only very few devices with this screen size and what's on the market from big IT producers like Lenovo is a joke (CPUs from 2018). At the end I have found a small Chinese manufacturer alldocube who makes a really good and fast ipad mini equivalent. It even looks like ipad mini... And has the headphone jack 😎 all for around 130€
https://www.macrumors.com/2024/10/22/ipad-mini-7-compatible-with-final-cut-pro/
Logic was expected but Final Cut is a great addition. I think they will keep stage manager and stem separation in Logic behind the M1 chips and up.
So yes, I ordered (well, financed) my iPad Mini 7 with 512gb and a Pencil Pro. The Pencil Pro arrived today. The Mini and a nice cover what costed a tenner arrive tomorrow.
Cons (for me personally, ymmv)
-Two new monthly payments added into the budget. Welp...
Pros (again, for me personally)
-More storage so I can fit my favourite romplers and sample libraries on there and produce music on a slightly larger screen again.
-I like the colour purple. (I also like "The Color Purple". Excellent film.) My iPhone 14 Pro Max is purple, so colour coordination. 😂 (Kind of a weak "pro", but no worries.)
-Hover cursor with the Pencil Pro in ProCreate, making art easier to create. Other neat Pencil Pro tricks like barrel roll (although we'll see how much I need that or not lol).
And of course there are the usual (for me personally) pros of a Mini in general like the portability and the form factor I love. And I can use the iPad-only apps like Bam and Tal U-No and Synthmaster 3.
Also maybe I'll return to AUM to make something experimental as it's easier to play with AUM on the Mini than on the iPhone (which is laborious). Been a while since I've done any weird sound experiments. Might be fun to do while seeking inspo for the next more mainstream EP project.