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Logic Pro on iPad
Stop using iPad for Logic Pro if you don’t use Mac fo Logic Pro then don’t use it as an app just hurts your flow and put cash and data in apples hands ..no need to engineer on the go .,makes your beats then sit at the Mac ..if you don’t have Mac don’t hurt your iPad lol .. GarageBand all I use with audio bus AUM and audio share ..what else I..ever noticed the sounds really all the same with gb in logic
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Ummm...no.
Ok guess I didn’t explore into mor3 I’d love to hear something different ..I haven’t yet gb logic every track I hea4 just got same sound
Prove me wrong
Are you having a stroke ? Your post reads like [do NOT use mental illness diagnoses as a derogatory description again] rambling. Maybe drink some tea and take a nap.
Looks like you solved your problem already.
Could you please update the thread title.
I agree.
No, seriously, I do. Apple ruined the promise of Logic Pro for iPad when they made it subscription…
I bought a Mac, paid full price for it. I’m much happier with that version of it. And I paid for it 3 years ago.
I do recognize that the app needs constant revenue to sustain it. But, sadly, I’m not a fan of the subscription model for a DAW like Logic.
I’d have been much happier with a Gadget 2 model where I pay for additional sounds, effects, instruments, and loops to support the app. And to have the app at a one time price, or use the subscription model to allow users to buy-to-own the app over 12-18 months.
Logic will certainly sound the same if you use them”producer packs” heavily, because that’s what “producers” mostly sound like (hot take, I know). Use more variety in instrumentation and composition.
Yes, the subscription model blows goats. Fortunately, it’s not yet too much.
I don’t use Logic much myself, I confess, but for other reasons. But it is something I go to for more conventional, linear composition. It basically replaces Cubasis, which I’ve never been comfortable with.
I don’t own Logic on desktop. Never will.
Me too. I bought my Mac for Logic, and I think it was worth every penny.
I also bought my iPad anticipating Logic would be released, and I was right - what I didn’t expect would that it would be a different purchase from the desktop, and what threw me even more was that it was only sub. (I don’t do subs and can’t do IAP)*
i would’ve paid full price again ($199) for Logic on iPad, but I won’t subscribe to software when I prefer other DAW like Cubasis and now ns2 (I mean I love Logic Pro 11, but I prefer Cubasis over Logic on the iPad…whereas I hate Cubase on desktop more than any other DAW) and that I also already own the full featured original on my mac.
If Apple said hey guys,” perpetual updates can’t be supported anymore and Logic Pro 12+ and Logic for iPad 3+ will need to be paid upgrades “ like all other DAWs, I would prefer that than subscription …
I just wish people would see Michaels model and adopt that. It makes so much sense to me. You pay once for the whole enchilada and for a year you get updates, after that, updates are a fair price…and Apple has enough revenue to do it; that’s what I don’t get: usually companies will offer an upfront fee or subscription choice, but Apple didn’t with logic
[on a side note: I accidentally found out, despite an irreparable IAP lock on my account due to a family setting that can’t be amended by Apple, I actually can subscribe to Logic! I won’t do it but it’s cool to know I can if I wanted to now.]
I enjoyed using Logic Pro, but cancelled my subscription when I noticed I hadn’t used it for a few months.
It’s just an uncomfortable feeling, knowing Apple is still taking my cash for something I’m not actually using.
I gave it a go, but subscriptions are really not for me. In the meantime I’m spending more time using AUM and Drambo, and the Note updates have been a revelation.
^^^ This.
I would buy it outright for $100 or whatever they price it at, but I’m not going to pay for it ad infinitum.
I get paying a subscription for ever-changing content like Netflix, etc, or paying for something with continuous overheads for the supplier (like utilities), but that’s where I draw the line.
+1
Yes, I should’ve clarified; I don’t consider “TV” or music streaming services subscriptions in the same way in regard software subscriptions. For me, when you buy software you’re paying for what is already made, the work already compiled - Not what you hope the roadmap/rumored updates will bring.(if a dev wants to give updates beyond OS compatibility I welcome it, but I don’t expect it as a given or as a guarantee)
But you said it Michael m
I don’t mind paying the $5 per month sub for it..Let’s see what the next update brings, although Michael’s Loopy Pro financial model makes the most sense for sure
The biggest problem for me is only one update per year with nothing new except for useless AI and loops. The workflow remains incomplete and tedious unless you constantly go back and forth between iPad and Mac, which leads to even more issues. I’m not really happy with it right now.
Which iOS DAW do you prefer , then?
Cubasis, GarageBand, and Koala are on my top tier list.
Beatmaker 3, Drambo, AUM, Logic Pro for iPad, Zenbeats, and Audiobus 3 are on my tier 2. I have my reasons…
Nanostudio 2 and Gadget 2, Reason Compact, and Ampify apps are on Tier 3. I can use them, sure, but I’d rather use them as part of a puzzle.
Can’t think of any more on my favorite lists. Feel free to mention those I forgot.
I use Zenbeats and Loopy Pro, and sometimes Logic too. Logic has excellent instruments and effects, but you constantly have to deal with bugs on desktop or limitations on iOS, making it frustrating to switch between platforms. Loopy Pro and Zenbeats have great potential and a brighter future than Logic. Loopy adds new features every month, transforming the landscape every year. No Suno or AKAI wannabe AI here—just real innovation.
Can zenbeats be used as an auv3 host?
It can, yes 👍
That’s why it’s a monthly subscription. Stop paying when you don’t use it, scrape together $5 when you need it again. I don’t like subscriptions, but $5 won’t even get you a decent coffee anymore.
You may have your subjective opinion on Logic Pro for iPad, but, I don’t like when people writes false facts…
Logic for iPad have been out for 17 months, and, it has been four (4) updates in 17 months - so, your ”only one update per year” is pure wrong.
Why do you have problem with the workflow?
You/we don’t ”need” Logic for Mac, iPad standalone is more than enough.
Also, ”useless AI and Loops” as only updates? No!
Mastering Assistant is super great!
We are a lot of users that love the new Session Players, and love the new Chord Track functionality.
I use the Stem splitting regularly - great stuff.
There’s more…
In just a few weeks we certainly have an new update to Logic for iPad.
I hope we can have yet another Session Players, guitar?
Also, hope we soon can have an UI updates on some of the plugins and instruments.
^^^ Session player Guitars would be fantastic. I’m still impressed how good the Session bass players are.
@NeuM : That’s why it’s a monthly subscription. Stop paying when you don’t use it, scrape together $5 when you need it again. I don’t like subscriptions, but $5 won’t even get you a decent coffee anymore.
Facts
Here here! Logic players are great for people like myself who have some ideas but lack some playing skills. I can choose some keys for the track to go by. Choose an appropriate player. Fiddle with it till I get close to the feel I want. Change it to midi and tinker further. Change the sound source if I want. Add instruments I can play with my basic skills. Add other material from other iPad apps. Change tempo along the timeline and freeze up tracks while I add many little flourishes. Then add automation, mix, help with mastering and then relax!
I'm slow at creating, but the help that Logic gives, helps me actually finish tracks, which I've rarely done in the past!
Yes, I dislike renting Logic, but at £50 a year, I can't really complain as my one only renting app.If other apps follow suit, I won't have them. Loopy Pro's buy a year but keep is a better idea.
Both can be right at the same time. I’d personally buy it full price and know that I have access to it, than having to buy now, opt out, and only buy when a new update comes up.
It’s less about the cup of coffee, and more about supporting the application in a way that makes sense to the user.
If I could get a subscription where the company would need to get my permission to take money from my account every month that would be better. As things are, they rely on people not remembering to cancel for things they’re not using as it makes them more profits.
That’s not speculation on my part either - I have two friends in sales management who I had lengthy conversations with on how selling subscription models over traditional models has become so huge. If you research information on subscription models you’ll find literature on how much of a benefit it is to the seller with little or negative impacts to the buyer. This is one of the main reasons I dislike subscriptions so much.
That’s not the way I work. Software is either available as and when I get the urge to use it, or it isn’t. I haven’t had the urge to use Logic for three months, which is £15 of my money which I could have spent on another app.
I might spend a few days with Drambo, then not have spare time for music for a week but when I have, I might feel inspired to drag out Note, or Gadget, or AUM for a play instead. Or tinkle around with iMS20 that I haven’t played for years, but has been on my iPads for over a decade.
I like a one-off payment. I’m not interested in renting something I’m not actually using. But that’s just me.
I’ve deleted Logic from my iPad to free up some space. I might use it again, but it’s unlikely.
This is actually a good point that people (including me) often don't consider about Logic Pro's subscription model. If you only use it sporadically, you can always purchase a month of usage only when you plan to use it. You don't have to have it sucking $5 out of your bank account perpetually.
You don't lose access to your projects when the subscription isn't active. You can still play and export them. You just can't modify them. Or at least that's how I understand it.
I'm not the slightest bit interested in Logic Pro on iPad, but if I was, the one-month at a time thing would suit me well. I go months and months between opening any full-fledged DAW on iPad, so it would be perfectly economical for me.
Do people really want to micromanage these things on a regular basis? Especially when several apps involved?
That’s exactly what michael_m criticised about the model in general.
I most certainly wouldn't want to have to micromanage more than I can handle on a monthly basis. Then again, this is why I keep a notepad file of monthly expenses, lol. That way I'm not caught unawares. Plus, the one-off purchases and monthly subs can be written off on taxes given music is my profession.