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  • jwmmakerofmusicjwmmakerofmusic

    @seonnthaproducer said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @seonnthaproducer said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @seonnthaproducer said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    @seonnthaproducer Gonna keep it honest mate. Seems like you decided to try something at the last second. Doing things last second, regardless of the platform/device(s) you use, is a fool's errand. I'm not talking about musical improv and the like. I mean it's best to prepare prior to the actual gig, such as testing the apps and the controllers you plan to use with the apps, troubleshooting possible issues, making sure the speakers and the live mix are well-balanced and fit well with the acoustics of the space you're performing in, etc. Doing things "last second" rarely ever works out the way anyone wants it to.

    And I'm with @wim on this. Let's not demonise a platform simply because you chose to do things "last second". I bet the same would've happened if you went with a last-second decision to use a laptop for drums. I don't think the platforms are unstable, only user error.

    Oh I'm generally a fan of iOS for production work. But I just gave this example to share my frustrations with it. I generally cannot use iOS on gigs because the setup time is way too much.

    For piano apps, sure. Effects, maybe.

    But I have a lot more to worry about. My phone battery dying, device not charging, one failed connection and your MIDI device isn't being recognised. Or the high amount of accessories I have to buy to make one iPad properly work.

    With my guitar, I just pick it up and play. With my laptops, I just turn it on. And I can do a lot more customization and scripting.

    I've had to worry about an update breaking a lot of my advanced scripts. And freezing my newest iPad means I can't get the latest app update fixing certain bugs.

    But I love iOS and Android as a quick way to teach people. It's how I taught my drummer and pianist how to produce.

    Just saying, it's not all roses in iOS land. There's definitely thorns.

    Oh gosh, 😅 that applies to any device and setup. Windows laptops are super susceptible to viruses for instance. Androids don't have near the amount of music apps iOS has. Macs are super expensive. I could go on. So it's not just iOS that has thorns suffice it to say.

    Agreed. I just got poked today. I'm tempted to get a hardware drumpad, but that was what I was hoping to avoid doing.

    Or I could just learn to play drums using a MIDI keybaord.

    Mate, if you can afford it and/or have space for it, I'd say just get a hardware drumpad. ☺️

    Still on the fence on that. But it's not a bad idea. It's the space right now that is the challenge. I've lived in so many studio type spaces that I'm shrinking down my gear.

    I've gone from basements, to AirBNB, to RV, hotels; and nowadays I'm on the road so much that my car is my second home.

    Even had to switch it up because I drove so much.

    Dang! 😳 Well, if there's a piece of equipment you don't need, there's always the option of selling and then getting the drumpads.

  • EtienneEtienne
    edited November 2024

    @seonnthaproducer said:
    But when it comes to live gigs, especially with other artists where everything has to sync smoothly, the iPad setup just isn’t reliable enough. Alone, it might work, but in a collaborative, live environment? It’s just not there yet.

    This is overgeneralization at its finest. If you said it wasn't reliable enough for you personnally, why not. Nevertheless, publishing a statement like that because you were frustrated (lack of preparation) is not looking great IMHO.

  • jwmmakerofmusicjwmmakerofmusic

    @Etienne said:

    @seonnthaproducer said:
    But when it comes to live gigs, especially with other artists where everything has to sync smoothly, the iPad setup just isn’t reliable enough. Alone, it might work, but in a collaborative, live environment? It’s just not there yet.

    This is overgeneralization at its finest. If you said it wasn't reliable enough for you personnaly, why not. Nevertheless, publishing a statement like that because you were frustrated (lack of preparation) is not looking great IMHO.

    I'll try and give Seonn the benefit of the doubt and say that he intended to mean "for him personally". 😅

    But yeah, regardless, this whole thread is not a good look for our friend in general and seems to be a rather pointless rant about not being able to use iOS for his live set up.

    But maybe I can add a point to all this nonsense to give this thread some value. The moral of the story is - become familiar with your gear and learn how to use it properly. If an app doesn't work quite as expected, such as Koala in landscape mode, look up the manual, some threads here, as well as Youtube vids, etc to troubleshoot the issue(s). In this case, some of these have been kindly provided in this thread by others.

    Because in the end, if I were to expect a new-to-me app to work a certain way 10 minutes before a live show and it doesn't work how I expected, I'd end up looking like the jackass. 😂 And doubly so if I wanted to convince my bandmates iOS is viable.

    And this applies to all platforms and software and hardware, not just iOS itself. For instance, last year I finally bought an OP-1 Field and took to it naturally because I did my research online, figured out its strengths and weaknesses, etc. (I later sold it as I could no longer afford the near $200/month payments, but it was great while I had it.)

    Summary - Learn your apps before you boast about how great they are. 🤣

  • seonnthaproducerseonnthaproducer

    @Etienne said:

    @seonnthaproducer said:
    But when it comes to live gigs, especially with other artists where everything has to sync smoothly, the iPad setup just isn’t reliable enough. Alone, it might work, but in a collaborative, live environment? It’s just not there yet.

    This is overgeneralization at its finest. If you said it wasn't reliable enough for you personnaly, why not. Nevertheless, publishing a statement like that because you were frustrated (lack of preparation) is not looking great IMHO.

    And I'm perfectly fine with that. Everything I write is always in my perspective.

    I'm not a PR person. I'm literally @seonnthaproducer

  • EtienneEtienne

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Etienne said:

    @seonnthaproducer said:
    But when it comes to live gigs, especially with other artists where everything has to sync smoothly, the iPad setup just isn’t reliable enough. Alone, it might work, but in a collaborative, live environment? It’s just not there yet.

    This is overgeneralization at its finest. If you said it wasn't reliable enough for you personnaly, why not. Nevertheless, publishing a statement like that because you were frustrated (lack of preparation) is not looking great IMHO.

    I'll try and give Seonn the benefit of the doubt and say that he intended to mean "for him personally". 😅

    But yeah, regardless, this whole thread is not a good look for our friend in general and seems to be a rather pointless rant about not being able to use iOS for his live set up.

    But maybe I can add a point to all this nonsense to give this thread some value. The moral of the story is - become familiar with your gear and learn how to use it properly. If an app doesn't work quite as expected, such as Koala in landscape mode, look up the manual, some threads here, as well as Youtube vids, etc to troubleshoot the issue(s). In this case, some of these have been kindly provided in this thread by others.

    Because in the end, if I were to expect a new-to-me app to work a certain way 10 minutes before a live show and it doesn't work how I expected, I'd end up looking like the jackass. 😂 And doubly so if I wanted to convince my bandmates iOS is viable.

    And this applies to all platforms and software and hardware, not just iOS itself. For instance, last year I finally bought an OP-1 Field and took to it naturally because I did my research online, figured out its strengths and weaknesses, etc. (I later sold it as I could no longer afford the near $200/month payments, but it was great while I had it.)

    Summary - Learn your apps before you boast about how great they are. 🤣

    Nice rebound and healthy tone haha. This could be a start for a "How to not f* up your live gigs" thread

  • jamietopoljamietopol

    @seonnthaproducer said:

    @jamietopol said:
    I use my iPad as my sole sound source when playing keyboards with 2 different cover bands. I usually connect 2 keyboards and sustain/volume pedals to my iPad, all via Bluetooth (the pedals both connect to an iRig Blueboard). I sometimes also connect an old iPhone to my iPad to function as a pitch bend / mod wheel for one of my keyboards that lacks these controls. I am running Keystage and many instrument apps on my iPad. I find this setup to be very stable.

    Honestly, I won't lie, I've found Bluetooth more reliable than wired connection for iOS. Because I can take my UD-BT01 dongle to another keyboard and not lose my progress.

    This was from 2 years ago

    I love bringing 2 Bluetooth dongles with me (one for traditional 5 PIN MIDI and one for USB MIDI) and being able to connect to whatever keyboard happens to be there (in a friend's basement, garage, gig, wherever). I just have to remember to bring a variety of cables with me. I have a small, folding 48 key MIDI controller that has built-in Bluetooth and I bring that as my second board. Works great!

  • EtienneEtienne

    @seonnthaproducer said:

    @Etienne said:

    @seonnthaproducer said:
    But when it comes to live gigs, especially with other artists where everything has to sync smoothly, the iPad setup just isn’t reliable enough. Alone, it might work, but in a collaborative, live environment? It’s just not there yet.

    This is overgeneralization at its finest. If you said it wasn't reliable enough for you personnaly, why not. Nevertheless, publishing a statement like that because you were frustrated (lack of preparation) is not looking great IMHO.

    And I'm perfectly fine with that. Everything I write is always in my perspective.

    I'm not a PR person. I'm literally @seonnthaproducer

    Alright, I just wanted to clarify things up in case an outsider stumbled upon this thread and were discouraged to use an ipad in a live setup, which for many people is a very solid solution. 🙂

  • jwmmakerofmusicjwmmakerofmusic

    @Etienne said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Etienne said:

    @seonnthaproducer said:
    But when it comes to live gigs, especially with other artists where everything has to sync smoothly, the iPad setup just isn’t reliable enough. Alone, it might work, but in a collaborative, live environment? It’s just not there yet.

    This is overgeneralization at its finest. If you said it wasn't reliable enough for you personnaly, why not. Nevertheless, publishing a statement like that because you were frustrated (lack of preparation) is not looking great IMHO.

    I'll try and give Seonn the benefit of the doubt and say that he intended to mean "for him personally". 😅

    But yeah, regardless, this whole thread is not a good look for our friend in general and seems to be a rather pointless rant about not being able to use iOS for his live set up.

    But maybe I can add a point to all this nonsense to give this thread some value. The moral of the story is - become familiar with your gear and learn how to use it properly. If an app doesn't work quite as expected, such as Koala in landscape mode, look up the manual, some threads here, as well as Youtube vids, etc to troubleshoot the issue(s). In this case, some of these have been kindly provided in this thread by others.

    Because in the end, if I were to expect a new-to-me app to work a certain way 10 minutes before a live show and it doesn't work how I expected, I'd end up looking like the jackass. 😂 And doubly so if I wanted to convince my bandmates iOS is viable.

    And this applies to all platforms and software and hardware, not just iOS itself. For instance, last year I finally bought an OP-1 Field and took to it naturally because I did my research online, figured out its strengths and weaknesses, etc. (I later sold it as I could no longer afford the near $200/month payments, but it was great while I had it.)

    Summary - Learn your apps before you boast about how great they are. 🤣

    Nice rebound and healthy tone haha. This could be a start for a "How to not f* up your live gigs" thread

    Might make for a great megathread to be honest. 😂

  • NeuMNeuM
    edited November 2024

    @seonnthaproducer said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @seonnthaproducer said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    @seonnthaproducer Gonna keep it honest mate. Seems like you decided to try something at the last second. Doing things last second, regardless of the platform/device(s) you use, is a fool's errand. I'm not talking about musical improv and the like. I mean it's best to prepare prior to the actual gig, such as testing the apps and the controllers you plan to use with the apps, troubleshooting possible issues, making sure the speakers and the live mix are well-balanced and fit well with the acoustics of the space you're performing in, etc. Doing things "last second" rarely ever works out the way anyone wants it to.

    And I'm with @wim on this. Let's not demonise a platform simply because you chose to do things "last second". I bet the same would've happened if you went with a last-second decision to use a laptop for drums. I don't think the platforms are unstable, only user error.

    Oh I'm generally a fan of iOS for production work. But I just gave this example to share my frustrations with it. I generally cannot use iOS on gigs because the setup time is way too much.

    For piano apps, sure. Effects, maybe.

    But I have a lot more to worry about. My phone battery dying, device not charging, one failed connection and your MIDI device isn't being recognised. Or the high amount of accessories I have to buy to make one iPad properly work.

    With my guitar, I just pick it up and play. With my laptops, I just turn it on. And I can do a lot more customization and scripting.

    I've had to worry about an update breaking a lot of my advanced scripts. And freezing my newest iPad means I can't get the latest app update fixing certain bugs.

    But I love iOS and Android as a quick way to teach people. It's how I taught my drummer and pianist how to produce.

    Just saying, it's not all roses in iOS land. There's definitely thorns.

    Oh gosh, 😅 that applies to any device and setup. Windows laptops are super susceptible to viruses for instance. Androids don't have near the amount of music apps iOS has. Macs are super expensive. I could go on. So it's not just iOS that has thorns suffice it to say.

    Agreed. I just got poked today. I'm tempted to get a hardware drumpad, but that was what I was hoping to avoid doing.

    Or I could just learn to play drums using a MIDI keybaord.

    Have you tried manually playing the drum pads in GarageBand? Depending on which kit you choose, you can record some fairly subtle MIDI performances. Other kits have little to no sensitivity, so you can bang away on them with fewer concerns about your exact placement on the pads with your fingers. And then that MIDI performance information can be repurposed with other kits.

  • knewspeakknewspeak

    @rs2000 said:
    Preparation is everything.
    Changing the setup under stress / time constraints can become difficult, no matter if it's iOS or desktop apps running together. Especially if you choose a route that you haven't tried before.

    Prep and practice but still expect a gremlin from time to time, so perhaps have a backup plan.

  • seonnthaproducerseonnthaproducer

    @NeuM said:

    @seonnthaproducer said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @seonnthaproducer said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    @seonnthaproducer Gonna keep it honest mate. Seems like you decided to try something at the last second. Doing things last second, regardless of the platform/device(s) you use, is a fool's errand. I'm not talking about musical improv and the like. I mean it's best to prepare prior to the actual gig, such as testing the apps and the controllers you plan to use with the apps, troubleshooting possible issues, making sure the speakers and the live mix are well-balanced and fit well with the acoustics of the space you're performing in, etc. Doing things "last second" rarely ever works out the way anyone wants it to.

    And I'm with @wim on this. Let's not demonise a platform simply because you chose to do things "last second". I bet the same would've happened if you went with a last-second decision to use a laptop for drums. I don't think the platforms are unstable, only user error.

    Oh I'm generally a fan of iOS for production work. But I just gave this example to share my frustrations with it. I generally cannot use iOS on gigs because the setup time is way too much.

    For piano apps, sure. Effects, maybe.

    But I have a lot more to worry about. My phone battery dying, device not charging, one failed connection and your MIDI device isn't being recognised. Or the high amount of accessories I have to buy to make one iPad properly work.

    With my guitar, I just pick it up and play. With my laptops, I just turn it on. And I can do a lot more customization and scripting.

    I've had to worry about an update breaking a lot of my advanced scripts. And freezing my newest iPad means I can't get the latest app update fixing certain bugs.

    But I love iOS and Android as a quick way to teach people. It's how I taught my drummer and pianist how to produce.

    Just saying, it's not all roses in iOS land. There's definitely thorns.

    Oh gosh, 😅 that applies to any device and setup. Windows laptops are super susceptible to viruses for instance. Androids don't have near the amount of music apps iOS has. Macs are super expensive. I could go on. So it's not just iOS that has thorns suffice it to say.

    Agreed. I just got poked today. I'm tempted to get a hardware drumpad, but that was what I was hoping to avoid doing.

    Or I could just learn to play drums using a MIDI keybaord.

    Have you tried manually playing the drum pads in GarageBand? Depending on which kit you choose, you can record some fairly subtle MIDI performances. Other kits have little to no sensitivity, so you can bang away on them with fewer concerns about your exact placement on the pads with your fingers. And then that MIDI performance information can be repurposed with other kits.

    That's actually what we settled at. I gave my drummer the iPad and had him play on it, while I took the keyboard.

    It worked out somehow. But I wanna try and make something portable, but still feels like an actual drum kit.

  • seonnthaproducerseonnthaproducer

    @jamietopol said:

    @seonnthaproducer said:

    @jamietopol said:
    I use my iPad as my sole sound source when playing keyboards with 2 different cover bands. I usually connect 2 keyboards and sustain/volume pedals to my iPad, all via Bluetooth (the pedals both connect to an iRig Blueboard). I sometimes also connect an old iPhone to my iPad to function as a pitch bend / mod wheel for one of my keyboards that lacks these controls. I am running Keystage and many instrument apps on my iPad. I find this setup to be very stable.

    Honestly, I won't lie, I've found Bluetooth more reliable than wired connection for iOS. Because I can take my UD-BT01 dongle to another keyboard and not lose my progress.

    This was from 2 years ago

    I love bringing 2 Bluetooth dongles with me (one for traditional 5 PIN MIDI and one for USB MIDI) and being able to connect to whatever keyboard happens to be there (in a friend's basement, garage, gig, wherever). I just have to remember to bring a variety of cables with me. I have a small, folding 48 key MIDI controller that has built-in Bluetooth and I bring that as my second board. Works great!

    Agreed. I bring my guitar, my Arturia Keylab, and a small backpack with my pads, controllers, dongles, and wires.

    I think that's enough....for now.

  • seonnthaproducerseonnthaproducer

    @Etienne said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Etienne said:

    @seonnthaproducer said:
    But when it comes to live gigs, especially with other artists where everything has to sync smoothly, the iPad setup just isn’t reliable enough. Alone, it might work, but in a collaborative, live environment? It’s just not there yet.

    This is overgeneralization at its finest. If you said it wasn't reliable enough for you personnaly, why not. Nevertheless, publishing a statement like that because you were frustrated (lack of preparation) is not looking great IMHO.

    I'll try and give Seonn the benefit of the doubt and say that he intended to mean "for him personally". 😅

    But yeah, regardless, this whole thread is not a good look for our friend in general and seems to be a rather pointless rant about not being able to use iOS for his live set up.

    But maybe I can add a point to all this nonsense to give this thread some value. The moral of the story is - become familiar with your gear and learn how to use it properly. If an app doesn't work quite as expected, such as Koala in landscape mode, look up the manual, some threads here, as well as Youtube vids, etc to troubleshoot the issue(s). In this case, some of these have been kindly provided in this thread by others.

    Because in the end, if I were to expect a new-to-me app to work a certain way 10 minutes before a live show and it doesn't work how I expected, I'd end up looking like the jackass. 😂 And doubly so if I wanted to convince my bandmates iOS is viable.

    And this applies to all platforms and software and hardware, not just iOS itself. For instance, last year I finally bought an OP-1 Field and took to it naturally because I did my research online, figured out its strengths and weaknesses, etc. (I later sold it as I could no longer afford the near $200/month payments, but it was great while I had it.)

    Summary - Learn your apps before you boast about how great they are. 🤣

    Nice rebound and healthy tone haha. This could be a start for a "How to not f* up your live gigs" thread

    Good point. I updated the title to say "My frustrations..."

    Most of the time, I make a post from my view point so we can talk about it, and I can learn ways of solving the problem.

    I’m currently a musician and an industrial engineer so it’s a bit of a different workflow than the general public.

    Here's my current mobile studio. A 2025 Nissan Kicks

    Last year it was an RV - 1989 Ford Jamboree

    I travel so much that it’s very hard for me to be in one place

  • StrizbizStrizbiz

    Started using IPad for audio production etc in 2013ish….as much as I enjoyed so many things the IPad has been capable of over the last decade, and after investing in so many apps and controllers , interfaces and dongles , I gravitated back to a MacBook Pro (M3 Max). I still use my IPad for some things , as a sound source ( I have sooooo many synths , apps and other great things ) and for starting ideas and track then airdropping them to my Mac, especially apps that export Ableton projects , but I jut got over having only one port , tried too many dongles that sometimes worked great then didn’t , trying have have audio m midi and charging at the same time just because too much of a chore, sometime hubs work great and then after updating my OS it wouldn’t, and having all the ports on my MacBook Pro, including a ssd card reader, hdmi out three thunderbolt ports and a charging port, on top of the amazing performance just pushed me back to the Mac as my main platform. I know it’ll never happen but if Apple added back a headphone jack and another port it would be a better tool for musicians or at least for me.

  • jwmmakerofmusicjwmmakerofmusic

    @seonnthaproducer said:

    @Etienne said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Etienne said:

    @seonnthaproducer said:
    But when it comes to live gigs, especially with other artists where everything has to sync smoothly, the iPad setup just isn’t reliable enough. Alone, it might work, but in a collaborative, live environment? It’s just not there yet.

    This is overgeneralization at its finest. If you said it wasn't reliable enough for you personnaly, why not. Nevertheless, publishing a statement like that because you were frustrated (lack of preparation) is not looking great IMHO.

    I'll try and give Seonn the benefit of the doubt and say that he intended to mean "for him personally". 😅

    But yeah, regardless, this whole thread is not a good look for our friend in general and seems to be a rather pointless rant about not being able to use iOS for his live set up.

    But maybe I can add a point to all this nonsense to give this thread some value. The moral of the story is - become familiar with your gear and learn how to use it properly. If an app doesn't work quite as expected, such as Koala in landscape mode, look up the manual, some threads here, as well as Youtube vids, etc to troubleshoot the issue(s). In this case, some of these have been kindly provided in this thread by others.

    Because in the end, if I were to expect a new-to-me app to work a certain way 10 minutes before a live show and it doesn't work how I expected, I'd end up looking like the jackass. 😂 And doubly so if I wanted to convince my bandmates iOS is viable.

    And this applies to all platforms and software and hardware, not just iOS itself. For instance, last year I finally bought an OP-1 Field and took to it naturally because I did my research online, figured out its strengths and weaknesses, etc. (I later sold it as I could no longer afford the near $200/month payments, but it was great while I had it.)

    Summary - Learn your apps before you boast about how great they are. 🤣

    Nice rebound and healthy tone haha. This could be a start for a "How to not f* up your live gigs" thread

    Good point. I updated the title to say "My frustrations..."

    The updated title makes more sense now. :) Thanks mate for being a bit more clear.

    Most of the time, I make a post from my view point so we can talk about it, and I can learn ways of solving the problem.

    I’m currently a musician and an industrial engineer so it’s a bit of a different workflow than the general public.

    Here's my current mobile studio. A 2025 Nissan Kicks

    Last year it was an RV - 1989 Ford Jamboree

    I travel so much that it’s very hard for me to be in one place

    That RV looks sick! 😱 But I'm sure it was beats you were cooking, not sky blue. 😂 (If you get the reference, you're awesome!) So where did the RV go?

  • EtienneEtienne

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  • GoldiblockzGoldiblockz

    The RV is gnarly. My girl and I dream of packing up in one some day lol

  • wimwim

    I would live in an RV like that if I were single.

    @seonnthaproducer - the original post makes a lot more sense now. 👍🏼

  • supadomsupadom
    edited November 2024

    Never improvise with your set up before the gig, As @rs2000 already mentioned, everything needs to be tested thoroughly and any slightest possible changes accounted for (ie lighting at the venue).

    We always forget how different and how much more stressful it is to perform in front of an audience. I think stress testing and well drilled muscle memory are an absolute must. Many times I’m at home moving my usual faders and getting it always right but then, on stage, everything becomes smaller, more fiddly and on top of everything the stress element can make things so much harder.

    Also, sound checking before the next act and then people on stage messing with the rig before you finally go on can mess things up. Have a plan. Do you leave the device plugged in with all apps on and ready to go or do you plug it in just before playing and fire everything off there and then adding extra stress?

    So many things to consider. This is why I’ve opted for a small briefcase approach because at least it’s all plugged in and cosy without the risk of shitty usb cables being pulled and breaking. I also prefer battery powered gear. Some interfaces aren’t great with iffy electrical wiring so if there’s grounding issues there’s buzzz.

    I almost prefer to jam in solitude 🤣

    Ah, almost forgot. Monitoring!!! Headphones or in ears are probably preferable then being at the mercy of venue’s wedges. Some haven’t been serviced in years with blown tweeters etc.

  • GravitasGravitas

    @supadom said:
    Never improvise with your set up before the gig, As @rs2000 already mentioned, everything needs to be tested thoroughly and any slightest possible changes accounted for (ie lighting at the venue).

    We always forget how different and how much more stressful it is to perform in front of an audience. I think stress testing and well drilled muscle memory are an absolute must. Many times I’m at home moving my usual faders and getting it always right but then, on stage, everything becomes smaller, more fiddly and on top of everything the stress element can make things so much harder.

    Agreed.

    Also, sound checking before the next act and then people on stage messing with the rig before you finally go on can mess things up. Have a plan. Do you leave the device plugged in with all apps on and ready to go or do you plug it in just before playing and fire everything off there and then adding extra stress?

    Ohhh.... this is always something to take into consideration.

    So many things to consider. This is why I’ve opted for a small briefcase approach because at least it’s all plugged in and cosy without the risk of shitty usb cables being pulled and breaking. I also prefer battery powered gear. Some interfaces aren’t great with iffy electrical wiring so if there’s grounding issues there’s buzzz.

    Ground hum is the bane of sound engineers.

    I almost prefer to jam in solitude 🤣

    Agreed. ;)

    Ah, almost forgot. Monitoring!!! Headphones or in ears are probably preferable then being at the mercy of venue’s wedges. Some haven’t been serviced in years with blown tweeters etc.

    Agreed.

  • seonnthaproducerseonnthaproducer
    edited November 2024

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @seonnthaproducer said:

    @Etienne said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Etienne said:

    @seonnthaproducer said:
    But when it comes to live gigs, especially with other artists where everything has to sync smoothly, the iPad setup just isn’t reliable enough. Alone, it might work, but in a collaborative, live environment? It’s just not there yet.

    This is overgeneralization at its finest. If you said it wasn't reliable enough for you personnaly, why not. Nevertheless, publishing a statement like that because you were frustrated (lack of preparation) is not looking great IMHO.

    I'll try and give Seonn the benefit of the doubt and say that he intended to mean "for him personally". 😅

    But yeah, regardless, this whole thread is not a good look for our friend in general and seems to be a rather pointless rant about not being able to use iOS for his live set up.

    But maybe I can add a point to all this nonsense to give this thread some value. The moral of the story is - become familiar with your gear and learn how to use it properly. If an app doesn't work quite as expected, such as Koala in landscape mode, look up the manual, some threads here, as well as Youtube vids, etc to troubleshoot the issue(s). In this case, some of these have been kindly provided in this thread by others.

    Because in the end, if I were to expect a new-to-me app to work a certain way 10 minutes before a live show and it doesn't work how I expected, I'd end up looking like the jackass. 😂 And doubly so if I wanted to convince my bandmates iOS is viable.

    And this applies to all platforms and software and hardware, not just iOS itself. For instance, last year I finally bought an OP-1 Field and took to it naturally because I did my research online, figured out its strengths and weaknesses, etc. (I later sold it as I could no longer afford the near $200/month payments, but it was great while I had it.)

    Summary - Learn your apps before you boast about how great they are. 🤣

    Nice rebound and healthy tone haha. This could be a start for a "How to not f* up your live gigs" thread

    Good point. I updated the title to say "My frustrations..."

    The updated title makes more sense now. :) Thanks mate for being a bit more clear.

    Most of the time, I make a post from my view point so we can talk about it, and I can learn ways of solving the problem.

    I’m currently a musician and an industrial engineer so it’s a bit of a different workflow than the general public.

    Here's my current mobile studio. A 2025 Nissan Kicks

    Last year it was an RV - 1989 Ford Jamboree

    I travel so much that it’s very hard for me to be in one place

    That RV looks sick! 😱 But I'm sure it was beats you were cooking, not sky blue. 😂 (If you get the reference, you're awesome!) So where did the RV go?

    Thanks man.

    Oh, I still have the RV. I rented it out to an older gentleman who needed a place to stay for a few months.

    Planning on doing some work on the interior but haven't had as much time. Winter is coming so it should be a great time to upgrade it.

    @Etienne said:
    DEA has entered the chat

    🤣😂🤣
    Breaking Bad reference, nice 👍🏼
    I never actually watched the show before getting the RV but when I told my good friend (he actually was the engineering manager who worked on the battery technology for the Vision Pro headset), he kept mentioning so many Breaking Bad references.

    @Goldiblockz said:
    The RV is gnarly. My girl and I dream of packing up in one some day lol

    It's a different life, that's for sure. If you do live in cooler climate, I highly recommend getting a winter sleeping bag first. It helped through a lot of cold nights.

    Next upgrade I did was a 400W solar panel system, with a 1000Wh + 600Wh battery bank.

    I also got a low wattage rice cooker (300W) which I now keep in the car, with a 12V to 120V 400W adapter that plugs into the cigarette port of my car, and kept the 600Wh bank with me.

    I was planning on testing out a portable AC with this setup, but winter has come...maybe next year.

    And it's surprising how much an RV can support. You can easily accommodate 6 people in this RV.

    @wim said:
    I would live in an RV like that if I were single.

    @seonnthaproducer - the original post makes a lot more sense now. 👍🏼

    Yeah, it's been an interesting transition from my rented space that I shot a lot of my earlier videos. So, the challenge is to make engaging videos while I'm on the road, and have enough time to edit it. That's why I never posted in 2023. Between work, RV, visiting Israel, and preparing for the future of automation, it didn't leave a lot of time to work on cool stuff.


    At the border of Israel and Jordan where the River Jordan is at. People were going for water baptism at the time of the photo

    One of the many automation projects/gigs I was working on in 2023

  • seonnthaproducerseonnthaproducer

    @supadom said:
    Never improvise with your set up before the gig, As @rs2000 already mentioned, everything needs to be tested thoroughly and any slightest possible changes accounted for (ie lighting at the venue).

    We always forget how different and how much more stressful it is to perform in front of an audience. I think stress testing and well drilled muscle memory are an absolute must. Many times I’m at home moving my usual faders and getting it always right but then, on stage, everything becomes smaller, more fiddly and on top of everything the stress element can make things so much harder.

    Also, sound checking before the next act and then people on stage messing with the rig before you finally go on can mess things up. Have a plan. Do you leave the device plugged in with all apps on and ready to go or do you plug it in just before playing and fire everything off there and then adding extra stress?

    So many things to consider. This is why I’ve opted for a small briefcase approach because at least it’s all plugged in and cosy without the risk of shitty usb cables being pulled and breaking. I also prefer battery powered gear. Some interfaces aren’t great with iffy electrical wiring so if there’s grounding issues there’s buzzz.

    I almost prefer to jam in solitude 🤣

    Ah, almost forgot. Monitoring!!! Headphones or in ears are probably preferable then being at the mercy of venue’s wedges. Some haven’t been serviced in years with blown tweeters etc.

    Agree. I got overconfident on the setup because I had tested the controller, and also mapped Koala before. The behavior was new, and completely unexpected but it was a great learning experience.

    And yeah I did troubleshoot it using in-ears only. The gig went well; was using the post to share my frustrations with it.

  • jwmmakerofmusicjwmmakerofmusic

    @Etienne said:
    DEA has entered the chat

    You got the reference! 😃 👏 One of the best US television series, innit?

    @seonnthaproducer said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @seonnthaproducer said:

    @Etienne said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Etienne said:

    @seonnthaproducer said:
    But when it comes to live gigs, especially with other artists where everything has to sync smoothly, the iPad setup just isn’t reliable enough. Alone, it might work, but in a collaborative, live environment? It’s just not there yet.

    This is overgeneralization at its finest. If you said it wasn't reliable enough for you personnaly, why not. Nevertheless, publishing a statement like that because you were frustrated (lack of preparation) is not looking great IMHO.

    I'll try and give Seonn the benefit of the doubt and say that he intended to mean "for him personally". 😅

    But yeah, regardless, this whole thread is not a good look for our friend in general and seems to be a rather pointless rant about not being able to use iOS for his live set up.

    But maybe I can add a point to all this nonsense to give this thread some value. The moral of the story is - become familiar with your gear and learn how to use it properly. If an app doesn't work quite as expected, such as Koala in landscape mode, look up the manual, some threads here, as well as Youtube vids, etc to troubleshoot the issue(s). In this case, some of these have been kindly provided in this thread by others.

    Because in the end, if I were to expect a new-to-me app to work a certain way 10 minutes before a live show and it doesn't work how I expected, I'd end up looking like the jackass. 😂 And doubly so if I wanted to convince my bandmates iOS is viable.

    And this applies to all platforms and software and hardware, not just iOS itself. For instance, last year I finally bought an OP-1 Field and took to it naturally because I did my research online, figured out its strengths and weaknesses, etc. (I later sold it as I could no longer afford the near $200/month payments, but it was great while I had it.)

    Summary - Learn your apps before you boast about how great they are. 🤣

    Nice rebound and healthy tone haha. This could be a start for a "How to not f* up your live gigs" thread

    Good point. I updated the title to say "My frustrations..."

    The updated title makes more sense now. :) Thanks mate for being a bit more clear.

    Most of the time, I make a post from my view point so we can talk about it, and I can learn ways of solving the problem.

    I’m currently a musician and an industrial engineer so it’s a bit of a different workflow than the general public.

    Here's my current mobile studio. A 2025 Nissan Kicks

    Last year it was an RV - 1989 Ford Jamboree

    I travel so much that it’s very hard for me to be in one place

    That RV looks sick! 😱 But I'm sure it was beats you were cooking, not sky blue. 😂 (If you get the reference, you're awesome!) So where did the RV go?

    Thanks man.

    Oh, I still have the RV. I rented it out to an older gentleman who needed a place to stay for a few months.

    Planning on doing some work on the interior but haven't had as much time. Winter is coming so it should be a great time to upgrade it.

    Sounds like a good plan to me mate. :) Man, imagine having a whole studio in an RV like that. I mean, I have a studio in my pocket 24/7 (my iPhone), but having hardware in a portable studio on wheels like that is baller af.

    @Etienne said:
    DEA has entered the chat

    🤣😂🤣
    Breaking Bad reference, nice 👍🏼
    I never actually watched the show before getting the RV but when I told my good friend (he actually was the engineering manager who worked on the battery technology for the Vision Pro headset), he kept mentioning so many Breaking Bad references.

    Hahaha! So eventually you caved and watched the show? Brilliant stuff, innit? :) But man, I'd love to vacation in an RV someday, but I'll bet driving one is a pain in the arse, in addition to the fact you need to clean out grey water and refill clean water, manage electrical stuff, etc. (Then again, being an engineer, I bet you're far more knowledgeable about how to maintain the RV than I'd be.)

  • seonnthaproducerseonnthaproducer
    edited November 2024

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Etienne said:
    DEA has entered the chat

    You got the reference! 😃 👏 One of the best US television series, innit?

    @seonnthaproducer said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @seonnthaproducer said:

    @Etienne said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Etienne said:

    @seonnthaproducer said:
    But when it comes to live gigs, especially with other artists where everything has to sync smoothly, the iPad setup just isn’t reliable enough. Alone, it might work, but in a collaborative, live environment? It’s just not there yet.

    This is overgeneralization at its finest. If you said it wasn't reliable enough for you personnaly, why not. Nevertheless, publishing a statement like that because you were frustrated (lack of preparation) is not looking great IMHO.

    I'll try and give Seonn the benefit of the doubt and say that he intended to mean "for him personally". 😅

    But yeah, regardless, this whole thread is not a good look for our friend in general and seems to be a rather pointless rant about not being able to use iOS for his live set up.

    But maybe I can add a point to all this nonsense to give this thread some value. The moral of the story is - become familiar with your gear and learn how to use it properly. If an app doesn't work quite as expected, such as Koala in landscape mode, look up the manual, some threads here, as well as Youtube vids, etc to troubleshoot the issue(s). In this case, some of these have been kindly provided in this thread by others.

    Because in the end, if I were to expect a new-to-me app to work a certain way 10 minutes before a live show and it doesn't work how I expected, I'd end up looking like the jackass. 😂 And doubly so if I wanted to convince my bandmates iOS is viable.

    And this applies to all platforms and software and hardware, not just iOS itself. For instance, last year I finally bought an OP-1 Field and took to it naturally because I did my research online, figured out its strengths and weaknesses, etc. (I later sold it as I could no longer afford the near $200/month payments, but it was great while I had it.)

    Summary - Learn your apps before you boast about how great they are. 🤣

    Nice rebound and healthy tone haha. This could be a start for a "How to not f* up your live gigs" thread

    Good point. I updated the title to say "My frustrations..."

    The updated title makes more sense now. :) Thanks mate for being a bit more clear.

    Most of the time, I make a post from my view point so we can talk about it, and I can learn ways of solving the problem.

    I’m currently a musician and an industrial engineer so it’s a bit of a different workflow than the general public.

    Here's my current mobile studio. A 2025 Nissan Kicks

    Last year it was an RV - 1989 Ford Jamboree

    I travel so much that it’s very hard for me to be in one place

    That RV looks sick! 😱 But I'm sure it was beats you were cooking, not sky blue. 😂 (If you get the reference, you're awesome!) So where did the RV go?

    Thanks man.

    Oh, I still have the RV. I rented it out to an older gentleman who needed a place to stay for a few months.

    Planning on doing some work on the interior but haven't had as much time. Winter is coming so it should be a great time to upgrade it.

    Sounds like a good plan to me mate. :) Man, imagine having a whole studio in an RV like that. I mean, I have a studio in my pocket 24/7 (my iPhone), but having hardware in a portable studio on wheels like that is baller af.

    @Etienne said:
    DEA has entered the chat

    🤣😂🤣
    Breaking Bad reference, nice 👍🏼
    I never actually watched the show before getting the RV but when I told my good friend (he actually was the engineering manager who worked on the battery technology for the Vision Pro headset), he kept mentioning so many Breaking Bad references.

    Hahaha! So eventually you caved and watched the show? Brilliant stuff, innit? :) But man, I'd love to vacation in an RV someday, but I'll bet driving one is a pain in the arse, in addition to the fact you need to clean out grey water and refill clean water, manage electrical stuff, etc. (Then again, being an engineer, I bet you're far more knowledgeable about how to maintain the RV than I'd be.)

    It's actually not as bad as you'd think. Once you get used to the initial shock of a new environment, which would probably be like a month, you get familiar with a lot of things.

    Getting rid of grey water is as simple as connecting a hose on one end of the RV and the other to the disposal zone, and pulling the lever.

    But I didn't use the water system that much. I had a gym membership which helped with that. Work out, get to shower, and socializing with other people.

    I still kept my main vehicle (which I swapped for my current one) while I had the RV. It was a base model, very gas efficient, Nissan Kicks 2021.

    Used the car for the city drives, used the RV as home base. Could tow the car with the RV but I haven't needed to move it from where it's currently at. I did get a car dolly with the RV just so I can have that flexibility of choice.


    Here's me with my old and new vehicle. iPad in hand.

    And all these was less than 1 year of rent in Toronto🤣😂🤣

  • jwmmakerofmusicjwmmakerofmusic

    @seonnthaproducer said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Etienne said:
    DEA has entered the chat

    You got the reference! 😃 👏 One of the best US television series, innit?

    @seonnthaproducer said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @seonnthaproducer said:

    @Etienne said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Etienne said:

    @seonnthaproducer said:
    But when it comes to live gigs, especially with other artists where everything has to sync smoothly, the iPad setup just isn’t reliable enough. Alone, it might work, but in a collaborative, live environment? It’s just not there yet.

    This is overgeneralization at its finest. If you said it wasn't reliable enough for you personnaly, why not. Nevertheless, publishing a statement like that because you were frustrated (lack of preparation) is not looking great IMHO.

    I'll try and give Seonn the benefit of the doubt and say that he intended to mean "for him personally". 😅

    But yeah, regardless, this whole thread is not a good look for our friend in general and seems to be a rather pointless rant about not being able to use iOS for his live set up.

    But maybe I can add a point to all this nonsense to give this thread some value. The moral of the story is - become familiar with your gear and learn how to use it properly. If an app doesn't work quite as expected, such as Koala in landscape mode, look up the manual, some threads here, as well as Youtube vids, etc to troubleshoot the issue(s). In this case, some of these have been kindly provided in this thread by others.

    Because in the end, if I were to expect a new-to-me app to work a certain way 10 minutes before a live show and it doesn't work how I expected, I'd end up looking like the jackass. 😂 And doubly so if I wanted to convince my bandmates iOS is viable.

    And this applies to all platforms and software and hardware, not just iOS itself. For instance, last year I finally bought an OP-1 Field and took to it naturally because I did my research online, figured out its strengths and weaknesses, etc. (I later sold it as I could no longer afford the near $200/month payments, but it was great while I had it.)

    Summary - Learn your apps before you boast about how great they are. 🤣

    Nice rebound and healthy tone haha. This could be a start for a "How to not f* up your live gigs" thread

    Good point. I updated the title to say "My frustrations..."

    The updated title makes more sense now. :) Thanks mate for being a bit more clear.

    Most of the time, I make a post from my view point so we can talk about it, and I can learn ways of solving the problem.

    I’m currently a musician and an industrial engineer so it’s a bit of a different workflow than the general public.

    Here's my current mobile studio. A 2025 Nissan Kicks

    Last year it was an RV - 1989 Ford Jamboree

    I travel so much that it’s very hard for me to be in one place

    That RV looks sick! 😱 But I'm sure it was beats you were cooking, not sky blue. 😂 (If you get the reference, you're awesome!) So where did the RV go?

    Thanks man.

    Oh, I still have the RV. I rented it out to an older gentleman who needed a place to stay for a few months.

    Planning on doing some work on the interior but haven't had as much time. Winter is coming so it should be a great time to upgrade it.

    Sounds like a good plan to me mate. :) Man, imagine having a whole studio in an RV like that. I mean, I have a studio in my pocket 24/7 (my iPhone), but having hardware in a portable studio on wheels like that is baller af.

    @Etienne said:
    DEA has entered the chat

    🤣😂🤣
    Breaking Bad reference, nice 👍🏼
    I never actually watched the show before getting the RV but when I told my good friend (he actually was the engineering manager who worked on the battery technology for the Vision Pro headset), he kept mentioning so many Breaking Bad references.

    Hahaha! So eventually you caved and watched the show? Brilliant stuff, innit? :) But man, I'd love to vacation in an RV someday, but I'll bet driving one is a pain in the arse, in addition to the fact you need to clean out grey water and refill clean water, manage electrical stuff, etc. (Then again, being an engineer, I bet you're far more knowledgeable about how to maintain the RV than I'd be.)

    It's actually not as bad as you'd think. Once you get used to the initial shock of a new environment, which would probably be like a month, you get familiar with a lot of things.

    Getting rid of grey water is as simple as connecting a hose on one end of the RV and the other to the disposal zone, and pulling the lever.

    But I didn't use the water system that much. I had a gym membership which helped with that. Work out, get to shower, and socializing with other people.

    I still kept my main vehicle (which I swapped for my current one) while I had the RV. It was a base model, very gas efficient, Nissan Kicks 2021.

    Used the car for the city drives, used the RV as home base. Could tow the car with the RV but I haven't needed to move it from where it's currently at. I did get a car dolly with the RV just so I can have that flexibility of choice.


    Here's me with my old and new vehicle. iPad in hand.

    And all these was less than 1 year of rent in Toronto🤣😂🤣

    Cool beans mate. :) That's utterly fascinating.

  • EtienneEtienne

    @seonnthaproducer said:
    🤣😂🤣
    Breaking Bad reference, nice 👍🏼
    I never actually watched the show before getting the RV but when I told my good friend (he actually was the engineering manager who worked on the battery technology for the Vision Pro headset), he kept mentioning so many Breaking Bad references.

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    You got the reference! 😃 👏 One of the best US television series, innit?

    I started watching it at 17 when it came out in France with no clue what the plot was about... Truly unique cinematography, and a great slow burn. Funnily enough I got to see the real van in a trip to LA a few years later. :D
    It was also innovative in the soundtrack, I really digged it

  • jwmmakerofmusicjwmmakerofmusic

    @Etienne said:

    @seonnthaproducer said:
    🤣😂🤣
    Breaking Bad reference, nice 👍🏼
    I never actually watched the show before getting the RV but when I told my good friend (he actually was the engineering manager who worked on the battery technology for the Vision Pro headset), he kept mentioning so many Breaking Bad references.

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    You got the reference! 😃 👏 One of the best US television series, innit?

    I started watching it at 17 when it came out in France with no clue what the plot was about... Truly unique cinematography, and a great slow burn.

    Yes! 👏 Amazing slow burn, unique cinematography, and utterly engrossing. Never a dull moment in the series. And they allowed one "f-ck" word per season since it was 2008 and for whatever reason that language uncensored was taboo on US TV. 😂 But holy shit mate, it is a wonderful series. Dark and gritty, not for the faint of heart. My kind of show.

    Funnily enough I got to see the real van in a trip to LA a few years later. :D

    No way! Photo or it didn't happen. 😂 Kidding, but man I'm jealous.

    It was also innovative in the soundtrack, I really digged it

    I agree 100%! Dave Porter is a genius. Really amazing music. :) And the soundtrack is on Spotify.

  • EtienneEtienne

    @jwmmakerofmusic Yeah Dave Porter is a creative synth nerd, and I could not imagine this series with a conventional orchestral composer lol.

    Alright, I found the proof in my archives ahah. It's at the Sony Pictures Studios in Culver City :

  • oldsynthguyoldsynthguy

    @supadom said:
    Never improvise with your set up before the gig, As @rs2000 already mentioned, everything needs to be tested thoroughly and any slightest possible changes accounted for (ie lighting at the venue).

    We always forget how different and how much more stressful it is to perform in front of an audience. I think stress testing and well drilled muscle memory are an absolute must. Many times I’m at home moving my usual faders and getting it always right but then, on stage, everything becomes smaller, more fiddly and on top of everything the stress element can make things so much harder.

    Also, sound checking before the next act and then people on stage messing with the rig before you finally go on can mess things up. Have a plan. Do you leave the device plugged in with all apps on and ready to go or do you plug it in just before playing and fire everything off there and then adding extra stress?

    So many things to consider. This is why I’ve opted for a small briefcase approach because at least it’s all plugged in and cosy without the risk of shitty usb cables being pulled and breaking. I also prefer battery powered gear. Some interfaces aren’t great with iffy electrical wiring so if there’s grounding issues there’s buzzz.

    I almost prefer to jam in solitude 🤣

    Ah, almost forgot. Monitoring!!! Headphones or in ears are probably preferable then being at the mercy of venue’s wedges. Some haven’t been serviced in years with blown tweeters etc.

    Seriously good advice, all this. I’ve noticed that even just in rehearsals, it’s like I’m using a completely different device to the one I sit at home with!

  • jwmmakerofmusicjwmmakerofmusic

    @Etienne said:
    @jwmmakerofmusic Yeah Dave Porter is a creative synth nerd, and I could not imagine this series with a conventional orchestral composer lol.

    Alright, I found the proof in my archives ahah. It's at the Sony Pictures Studios in Culver City :

    Whoa! 🤯 👏 That's so cool mate!

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