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Even without MPE it is an excellent synth. I recommend it.
Great to hear you're considering MPE. I'm sure there are more than enough willing beta-testers here.
Great @elasticdrums - take a look at how Bleass Megalit has implemented mpe, that's one of the best implementations on iOS
Okay. Actually these were some of the guys I talked to about MPE
MPE is fantastic news! And agreed, Bleass Megalit is one of the best, most stable, and complete implementations on iOS.
There are lots of other synths that do it pretty well, but most make it challenging to program, keep all the settings buried, or are quite incomplete.
Megalit is simple to program, easily visible, and feature complete. 💕
Love this app, great work @elasticdrums
But I’d love it even more if it was universal…. 😎
Yep, I think it was you who pointed out Megalit as one of the best implementations back in another thread, right? Thank you for that!
It was! I love me some good MPE. 🙌🏽
Thank you @Gavinski for being such a great advocate for MPE, good touchscreen design, and best practises in general for iOS music apps.
I can't stop playing with this synth! I loved the xy fx automation in Elastic Drums (one of my all-time favorite apps) and found myself wishing we could map multiple parameters to it. Especially for wavetable and FM oscillators, because moving it so drastically affects the sound. I'd love to be able to customize the xy automation for those instead of losing that sweet perfect -sounding spot. I personally don't mind using external LFOs / modulation for exposed parameters.
Elastic OSC Update 1.0.3 is out:
😎👍 Really like that you continue to add more patches in addition to the frequent updates.
Yeah, there are presets from another 2 artists coming at least
Can someone please let me know if all the params are exposed in the AU? I’m specifically wondering if the arp params are exposed for midi mapping.
Thx
@MonkeyDrummer yes, they are all exposed, including the arp params.
Thx
Hehe, here is an Elastic OSC Video with the new Fugue Machine Rubato App.
You can test the app via TestFlight btw.
Not really my style of music, but interesting. The beginning of the video sounded like a video game parlor from the 80's.
Hello guys - @FPC & @Samu. I am actually adding a scroll function for Logic. I am wondering if there are other hosts using scrolling also and which ones they are?
LFO will come in a bigger update. Plan is to give all knobs a second "LFO" function, so you can switch between host time dependent recorded automation and host time (in-)dependent LFO modulation. I want to avoid any modulation matrix, as I dislike that. Does it make sense ?
@DblU : I actually recorded a Behringer Grind vs Elastic OSC video, that I have to edit a bit. The only thing Grind felt superior is with the use of very slow or very quick LFO's - which will come in an update, and of course the analog filter gives it a bit more warmth. But then you have 8 voices and effects already included in Elastic OSC for 1/15th of the price of the hardware
Scrolling is usually handled by the plug-in and not by the specific host when the vertical view-port size given by the host for the plug-in is too small especially in hosts that do not provide the option to use floating windows.
Some plug-ins prioritize rendering the UI in full width while some try to scale the plug-in to fit the give view-port which in some cases makes things microscopic.
Personally I have a pretty bad eye-sight and prefer full width and vertical scroll when possible to keep things as big as possible.
It's not about the 'host' but rather how the plug-in manages to render its UI when it doesn't fully fit into the view-port.
@elasticdrums in drambo with the AU embedded, the bottom is cut off. So a scroll would be great
In the meanwhile it's possible to use the little arrow next to the tracks in Drambo to re-size the track
Thanks guys.
@Samu
"Some plug-ins prioritize rendering the UI in full width while some try to scale the plug-in to fit the give view-port which in some cases makes things microscopic."
--> I also want to avoid this.
So scrolling for smaller screen windows. But then I don't like scrollbars. Hm. Have no final clue yet
@elasticdrums Please consider adding the same button that can be seen on the iPhone to hide the on-screen keyboard to the iPad version as well
Most plug-ins don't show scrollbars at all as it's quite intuitive to just swipe in an empty place in the plug-in UI or use two-finger pan/scroll to pan/scroll it. (MiRack and Moog's Model 15 uses the two-finger pan & scroll method).
(There's a lot of 'empty space' between for example the Distortion label and Distortion Mix knob that could be see as 'empty space' and at least my finger goes there almost automatically expecting it to scroll the UI).
Waldorf has a 'scroll/pan widget' in both Microwave and Blofeld that can be used to pan/scroll the UI.
It's just a semi-transparent 'blob' in the top left corner which when swiped pan/scrolls the UI.
Most AudioThing plug-ins use the Left / Right margins of the plug-in view to pan/scroll the UI.
When the plug-in is not 'zoomed in' tapping outside the border zooms to the vertically tapped position.
As long as hosts do not fully support re-sizable plug-in windows the plug-in has to adapt to the view-port the host gives it and do the best it can to adapt to it.
Two Finger Pan & Scroll should in theory work fine with Elastic OSC.
Wow, cool, thank you so much for your input!!
Great idea, I think this is what I would like to go.
You think this button is still necessary then? On iPhone the Keyboard is on top of other elements, on the iPad the Keyboard is below all other elements and only shown when all other elements are visible then, so in some kind of fullscreen view ...
I'd argue that the built-in keyboard can become a 'distraction' (ie. only parts of the keys are visible) when it doesn't fully fit into the currently available view.
(this is full width but not full height, where the 'scrolling' would be needed to reach the keys).
So even on the iPad the 'keyboard toggle' could be used to overlay the full-size keyboard on top of the rest of the UI just like on the iPhone to fit it in the current view-size.
When more 'features' get added they could be added 'under the keyboard' and 'hiding the keyboard' could expose them and on smaller devices scrolling would be needed to keep the UI elements at 'usable' sizes.
Cheers!
I see your point.
But yeah, Keyboard will get blended out, when it's scaled to a non usable height.
This sounds cool @elasticdrums ! I have a couple of questions - sorry if they’ve been asked before, search can be difficult here.
1) is this based on a similar mutable instruments library as the synths available in the Spectrum synthesizer bundle app? I have liked the sounds there in the past but found the app to be unreliable at times. I heard pretty similar sounds so that’s cool.
2) will the current app become Mac compatible at some point? I’m starting to use a Mac for music production too, and if the same elastic osc app will be available as a Mac app I would get it now and mess around with it - but I wouldn’t want to buy it twice.
Thanks!
It's based on plaits (the spectrum au in the bundle), I think, which has an algo, that's like a reduced rings.
RingsFX on the other hand is based on rings.