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Song Of The Month Club - December 2024

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  • edited December 2024

    @jo92346 said:
    it is Christmas month. Here is my Christmas tune:
    https://josephbalson.bandcamp.com/track/the-christmas-monster-in-the-closet

    I always look forward to your orchestral tunes.

    This didn't disappoint. This build really nicely, the staccato strings are lovely when they first come in. Then there's the toy box type melody -- really nice. The whole piece tells a story of curiosity. Belongs as the soundtrack to a short film. A creepy short film (meant as a compliment, obviously!). :)

  • @jo92346 said:
    it is Christmas month. Here is my Christmas tune:
    https://josephbalson.bandcamp.com/track/the-christmas-monster-in-the-closet

    Another cinematic epic. The arrangement is constantly surprising and really engaging. One of the strongest narrative pieces yet. It's amazing how evocative your orchestral work is, the sense of journey is overwhelming.

  • @richardyot said:
    My entry for the month, lyrics in the spoiler:

    What am I to you?
    Am I the man you thought you knew?

    What do I believe in?
    What d’you think I see?
    Could you live in my skin?
    Could you stand to be me?

    Can you feel the things I feel?
    Can you feel real empathy?
    Can you imagine being me?
    Seeing the things I see?

    How can we begin
    To fix this mess that we are in?

    What do I believe in?
    What is it I feel?
    You couldn’t live in my skin
    And face this ordeal

    Can you feel the things I feel?
    Can you feel real empathy?
    Can you imagine being me?
    Seeing the things I see?

    Who are you to me?
    Will you stay here faithfully?

    Can you feel the things I feel?
    Can you feel real empathy?
    Can you imagine being me?
    Seeing the things I see?

    What do you believe in?
    Do you believe in me?
    Could you stand in my skin?
    And see the things I see?

    Not sure what it is but last couple of months your songs seemed to have jumped a level, they still have that familiar 80's vibe but sound more 'professional' in production and your voice sounds more powerful, whatever you are doing it is working.

  • @Fruitbat1919 said:
    I’m posting one I’ve posted elsewhere in the forum, as it reminds me of our Staffie Tucker that we had to have put down last December just before Christmas.

    Most of the track is recorded in AUM and consists of Harmonicc and Harmony Bloom running some Atoms and a RingsFX. I’ve then taken the audio stems, chopped them up and added some Mariana, Stringlab and Sensual Sax in Logic

    This is just so lovely, seems simple but deep and emotional sounding as well. Just floats around magically, happy desolation grounded with a drumbeat. Touches of Bladerunner with the sax for icing on the cake.

  • @unlink said:
    My submission for this month:

    Not my usual playground so I didn't feel that confident and I'm not really sure about the result, but I'll let you guys judge :)

    Cyberpunk meets Halloween? Not sure what it is but the main riff is really catchy and sounds better the more you listen to it. Earworm music.

  • @deadpoetlive said:

    This is just so lovely, seems simple but deep and emotional sounding as well. Just floats around magically, happy desolation grounded with a drumbeat. Touches of Bladerunner with the sax for icing on the cake.

    Thanks you :)

  • @DavidEnglish said:
    This is a music track that I improvised on two MIDI keyboards connected to Bitwig Studio on a desktop PC. There the MIDI was routed to Solo for the violin and flute, Nucleus for the bassoon, and Omnisphere for the other instruments.

    After bringing the audio recording into Vegas Pro, I applied the Lurssen Mastering Console plug-in to the audio mix.

    It's titled Harbor Lights.

    Last months trapeze song I felt drawn in emotionally and I think that was the best one I've heard of yours. Not sure what it is but this one doesn't work as much for me, it feels too 'smooth' and more background music, albeit a very high quality background and is wonderfully meditative if I was listening in a different mindset. Yikes, I feel a bit sacrilegious.

  • Not sure if this will work, first piece I've uploaded to Soundcloud. Various synths recorded playing a keystep 37 in AUM then the files brought back into AUM and layered. I have still yet to learn how to make a proper song instead of this noodling. :-)

  • @jo92346 said:
    it is Christmas month. Here is my Christmas tune:
    https://josephbalson.bandcamp.com/track/the-christmas-monster-in-the-closet

    Wow, proper nightmare before Christmas stuff. Brilliant, would be completely in place as a soundtrack to a Hollywood movie. Surprisingly short for such a full story in music, it felt like quite a long journey with so much happening yet also leaving space for breathing. Great pacing and use of dynamics.

  • @deadpoetlive said:
    Not sure if this will work, first piece I've uploaded to Soundcloud. Various synths recorded playing a keystep 37 in AUM then the files brought back into AUM and layered. I have still yet to learn how to make a proper song instead of this noodling. :-)

    Some great sounds in this, and I also love the sense of space in the stereo field. My only crit is that the keys that form the backbone of the piece meander aimlessly without ever resolving. I would like to hear some tension and release rather than this harmonic meandering. It sounds like those keys are just being played randomly rather than with purpose.

    But the vibe is really interesting and the sound design is exceptional.

  • @deadpoetlive said:
    Not sure if this will work, first piece I've uploaded to Soundcloud. Various synths recorded playing a keystep 37 in AUM then the files brought back into AUM and layered. I have still yet to learn how to make a proper song instead of this noodling. :-)

    I agree with @richardyot about the “meandering nature” of this piece, the quality and the sound design. I don’t think it sounds like it is played randomly though. It is very short and could be the perfect intro for something bigger and longer.
    I really liked it.

  • @deadpoetlive said:
    Not sure if this will work, first piece I've uploaded to Soundcloud. Various synths recorded playing a keystep 37 in AUM then the files brought back into AUM and layered. I have still yet to learn how to make a proper song instead of this noodling. :-)

    I thoroughly like the piece. Personally I would use its stems as the backdrop, chop them up to make the piece longer and place some up front instruments over the material. It’s so full of inspiration of what could be done with the sounds. Thanks for sharing :)

  • @deadpoetlive said:
    Not sure if this will work, first piece I've uploaded to Soundcloud. Various synths recorded playing a keystep 37 in AUM then the files brought back into AUM and layered. I have still yet to learn how to make a proper song instead of this noodling. :-)

    It absolutely works! The layering is great as well as the sound choices. One of the main leads is ATOMS?

    AUM doesn't really help in having a song structure because it's not really a DAW, but maybe the usage of some kind of sequencer (like Atom) will probably help you to create a "proper song" like you say. But I consider this a proper song too ;)

  • @unlink said:

    @deadpoetlive said:
    Not sure if this will work, first piece I've uploaded to Soundcloud. Various synths recorded playing a keystep 37 in AUM then the files brought back into AUM and layered. I have still yet to learn how to make a proper song instead of this noodling. :-)

    It absolutely works! The layering is great as well as the sound choices. One of the main leads is ATOMS?

    AUM doesn't really help in having a song structure because it's not really a DAW, but maybe the usage of some kind of sequencer (like Atom) will probably help you to create a "proper song" like you say. But I consider this a proper song too ;)

    Thank you, yes, there are 2 atoms, one of which is a slightly tweaked bowed steel*, 2 pianoteqs, Animoog z, DRC, Addstation and Mariana and use of Rymdigare on some individually. *preset that made me break my tissue thin no more synths rule. I have been far more adept at perusing the app sales page on this forum+you tube videos than learning to properly use the more than enough I already have. ;-)

    I love the hands on instantaneous nature of AUM but I have an unused years subscription (well there is a money saving purchase, gone wrong)to logic that really needs firing up for automation, arranging and tinkering after the fact.

  • @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @deadpoetlive said:
    Not sure if this will work, first piece I've uploaded to Soundcloud. Various synths recorded playing a keystep 37 in AUM then the files brought back into AUM and layered. I have still yet to learn how to make a proper song instead of this noodling. :-)

    I thoroughly like the piece. Personally I would use its stems as the backdrop, chop them up to make the piece longer and place some up front instruments over the material. It’s so full of inspiration of what could be done with the sounds. Thanks for sharing :)

    Thank you, a good suggestion and a challenge for me to learn new techniques.

  • @richardyot said:

    @deadpoetlive said:
    Not sure if this will work, first piece I've uploaded to Soundcloud. Various synths recorded playing a keystep 37 in AUM then the files brought back into AUM and layered. I have still yet to learn how to make a proper song instead of this noodling. :-)

    Some great sounds in this, and I also love the sense of space in the stereo field. My only crit is that the keys that form the backbone of the piece meander aimlessly without ever resolving. I would like to hear some tension and release rather than this harmonic meandering. It sounds like those keys are just being played randomly rather than with purpose.

    But the vibe is really interesting and the sound design is exceptional.

    'aimless meandering' has been my entire workflow thus far, so I definitely think you are onto something here. ;-)

  • @deadpoetlive said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @deadpoetlive said:
    Not sure if this will work, first piece I've uploaded to Soundcloud. Various synths recorded playing a keystep 37 in AUM then the files brought back into AUM and layered. I have still yet to learn how to make a proper song instead of this noodling. :-)

    I thoroughly like the piece. Personally I would use its stems as the backdrop, chop them up to make the piece longer and place some up front instruments over the material. It’s so full of inspiration of what could be done with the sounds. Thanks for sharing :)

    Thank you, a good suggestion and a challenge for me to learn new techniques.

    It’s my new track making way now. I can’t stand starting a track by opening up Logic or whatever DAW - it’s such a soul sucking way to start a track imo. Now finding some sounds that go together in AUM and making a quick and rough demo gets things started much easier in my opinion. Sometimes, I use all the stems and mix them in Logic before adding tracks, sometimes, like the example below, I just get sounds that to me fit well together and take my time to play something decent in Logic.

    This track took me mere minutes to get an idea going, where as starting a track in Logic fresh, may take me a day before anything happens! Doing these LP Forum challenges brought this home to me.

  • @richardyot I really hear your progression every month, for me this is the one it’s all kind of clicked into place for you. It’s really in its groove. I love the breakdown. Overall you sound more confident and more than that, you sound relaxed. If you don’t mind me saying, I hear & feel a little more swagger in this.

  • @Fruitbat1919 said:
    It’s my new track making way now. I can’t stand starting a track by opening up Logic or whatever DAW - it’s such a soul sucking way to start a track imo. Now finding some sounds that go together in AUM and making a quick and rough demo gets things started much easier in my opinion. Sometimes, I use all the stems and mix them in Logic before adding tracks, sometimes, like the example below, I just get sounds that to me fit well together and take my time to play something decent in Logic.

    This track took me mere minutes to get an idea going, where as starting a track in Logic fresh, may take me a day before anything happens! Doing these LP Forum challenges brought this home to me.

    soft and moody. I like that.

  • @squeals said:
    @richardyot I really hear your progression every month, for me this is the one it’s all kind of clicked into place for you. It’s really in its groove. I love the breakdown. Overall you sound more confident and more than that, you sound relaxed. If you don’t mind me saying, I hear & feel a little more swagger in this.

    Thanks! That's very encouraging to hear :)

  • edited December 2024

    @jo92346 said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:
    It’s my new track making way now. I can’t stand starting a track by opening up Logic or whatever DAW - it’s such a soul sucking way to start a track imo. Now finding some sounds that go together in AUM and making a quick and rough demo gets things started much easier in my opinion. Sometimes, I use all the stems and mix them in Logic before adding tracks, sometimes, like the example below, I just get sounds that to me fit well together and take my time to play something decent in Logic.

    This track took me mere minutes to get an idea going, where as starting a track in Logic fresh, may take me a day before anything happens! Doing these LP Forum challenges brought this home to me.

    soft and moody. I like that.

    Yeah a bit off topic chat for SOTMC. Was really just trying to make a conversation on track starting in AUM and hope it encourages more people to start and then post stuff on here.

    I’ve talked to some people that never post tracks and they are a bit put off by the quality that others post on here and I’m trying to get more people to just go for it. I think SOTMC and the LPF Challenges are both very important to encouraging our hobbie - we need more youngsters to get involved as our hobbies age group is a bit bias towards the 55 plus category lol

    I will go open a new topic lol

  • @Fruitbat1919 said:
    age group is a bit bias towards the 55 plus category lol

    we're the last cowboys...

  • @jo92346 said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:
    age group is a bit bias towards the 55 plus category lol

    we're the last cowboys...

    Yes, I’m sure my wife wished I was Rip out of YellowStone lol

  • @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @deadpoetlive said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @deadpoetlive said:
    Not sure if this will work, first piece I've uploaded to Soundcloud. Various synths recorded playing a keystep 37 in AUM then the files brought back into AUM and layered. I have still yet to learn how to make a proper song instead of this noodling. :-)

    I thoroughly like the piece. Personally I would use its stems as the backdrop, chop them up to make the piece longer and place some up front instruments over the material. It’s so full of inspiration of what could be done with the sounds. Thanks for sharing :)

    Thank you, a good suggestion and a challenge for me to learn new techniques.

    It’s my new track making way now. I can’t stand starting a track by opening up Logic or whatever DAW - it’s such a soul sucking way to start a track imo. Now finding some sounds that go together in AUM and making a quick and rough demo gets things started much easier in my opinion. Sometimes, I use all the stems and mix them in Logic before adding tracks, sometimes, like the example below, I just get sounds that to me fit well together and take my time to play something decent in Logic.

    This track took me mere minutes to get an idea going, where as starting a track in Logic fresh, may take me a day before anything happens! Doing these LP Forum challenges brought this home to me.

    I think one of the problems with DAWs is that they discourage jamming and spontaneity for many people. Once you record a part in a DAW it seems permanent and most people are reluctant to delete something that's been recorded.

    Whereas if you sit down at an instrument you can just play without caring too much, and the same applies to an environment like AUM. You can relax and just jam and you only record something if it sounds like it should be recorded. Jamming is much more playful, and for most people the DAW is not the place to be doing that.

  • @richardyot said:
    I think one of the problems with DAWs is that they discourage jamming and spontaneity for many people. Once you record a part in a DAW it seems permanent and most people are reluctant to delete something that's been recorded.

    Whereas if you sit down at an instrument you can just play without caring too much, and the same applies to an environment like AUM. You can relax and just jam and you only record something if it sounds like it should be recorded. Jamming is much more playful, and for most people the DAW is not the place to be doing that.

    explains a lot.

  • @richardyot said:
    I think one of the problems with DAWs is that they discourage jamming and spontaneity for many people. Once you record a part in a DAW it seems permanent and most people are reluctant to delete something that's been recorded.

    Whereas if you sit down at an instrument you can just play without caring too much, and the same applies to an environment like AUM. You can relax and just jam and you only record something if it sounds like it should be recorded. Jamming is much more playful, and for most people the DAW is not the place to be doing that.

    I think it depends more on what you want to accomplish. If you want to just jam with zero intention of creating a song than it's definitely not worth using a DAW and a playground like AUM has extreme flexibility for experimentation and it's probably also one of top choices for like a live set.

    But if you have even the slightest idea of assembling what you are doing into a real song I see no point in not using a DAW from the beginning. Just load up the instruments you prefer into Logic, set up a loop (if you prefer/desire) and start jamming. Then, if at some point you came up with something nice, just hit the "Capture Recording" button and bam! You have an idea for your next song all written down and you can start focusing on the next instrument, or sound design, or automation, or whatever.

  • @jo92346 said:

    @richardyot said:
    I think one of the problems with DAWs is that they discourage jamming and spontaneity for many people. Once you record a part in a DAW it seems permanent and most people are reluctant to delete something that's been recorded.

    Whereas if you sit down at an instrument you can just play without caring too much, and the same applies to an environment like AUM. You can relax and just jam and you only record something if it sounds like it should be recorded. Jamming is much more playful, and for most people the DAW is not the place to be doing that.

    explains a lot.

    Yes, my dream set up on iPad would be for Apple to make a protocol where hosts like AUM could save their tracks directly to a Logic track. I know it would be a complex undertaking and pretty much will never happen….but that’s my dream lol

  • @unlink said:

    @richardyot said:
    I think one of the problems with DAWs is that they discourage jamming and spontaneity for many people. Once you record a part in a DAW it seems permanent and most people are reluctant to delete something that's been recorded.

    Whereas if you sit down at an instrument you can just play without caring too much, and the same applies to an environment like AUM. You can relax and just jam and you only record something if it sounds like it should be recorded. Jamming is much more playful, and for most people the DAW is not the place to be doing that.

    I think it depends more on what you want to accomplish. If you want to just jam with zero intention of creating a song than it's definitely not worth using a DAW and a playground like AUM has extreme flexibility for experimentation and it's probably also one of top choices for like a live set.

    But if you have even the slightest idea of assembling what you are doing into a real song I see no point in not using a DAW from the beginning. Just load up the instruments you prefer into Logic, set up a loop (if you prefer/desire) and start jamming. Then, if at some point you came up with something nice, just hit the "Capture Recording" button and bam! You have an idea for your next song all written down and you can start focusing on the next instrument, or sound design, or automation, or whatever.

    I don't disagree :) I think it depends on the person. There are so many ways to approach making music.

    @jo92346 composes the track in his mind first, before ever laying down a note. There would be no point in jamming for him, because that's not how he writes. @LinearLineman is almost the polar opposite, and works by pure improvisation - his entire workflow is jamming.

    I think one of the reasons that Ableton is popular on the desktop is because it encourages a more playful and improvisational approach: record some loops and arrange them on the fly. I think for some people the timeline is just too rigid and they work better when they are away from it.

    Personally I usually write on the guitar, aways from the iPad, and just record ideas I like into my phone. If something good comes out of a session that's great, but if not it doesn't matter because I'm having fun.

    I can write in the DAW as well, starting with a beat and maybe writing a bass line or a chord progression, but I then will go through and ruthlessly delete all the ideas I don't like. I think for a lot of people this is the sticking point: they don't want to delete the ideas that aren't working and so just end up never finishing anything.

  • @richardyot said:
    @LinearLineman is almost the polar opposite, and works by pure improvisation - his entire workflow is jamming.

    Yes, but he isn't human, he comes from a different dimension.

    Personally I usually write on the guitar, aways from the iPad, and just record ideas I like into my phone. If something good comes out of a session that's great, but if not it doesn't matter because I'm having fun.

    I’ve always believed that there are some inherent limitations when using a specific instrument (a guitar, a piano, or any other tool the composer excels at) as the foundation for creating music. While this approach can be deeply personal and intuitive, and helds excellent results, I think it tends to "anchor" the composition within the constraints of that instrument's range, mechanics, and inherent characteristics.
    As an example, a guitar naturally encourages chord progressions and voicings suited to its tuning and fretboard layout, while a piano might lead to harmonic structures shaped by its linear arrangement of keys. These tendencies can subtly guide or restrict your creative decisions.
    That made it, for me, very challenging to venture beyond the possibilities of my fallback piano.
    In essence, the music created in this way is often a reflection of the instrument itself as much as it is of the composer’s imagination. While this is definitely NOT a flaw, and it's woring pretty wellm I always wondered and tried, to push beyond these boundaries to explore (if possible) uncharted creative territories.

  • @jo92346 said:

    @richardyot said:
    @LinearLineman is almost the polar opposite, and works by pure improvisation - his entire workflow is jamming.

    Yes, but he isn't human, he comes from a different dimension.

    Personally I usually write on the guitar, aways from the iPad, and just record ideas I like into my phone. If something good comes out of a session that's great, but if not it doesn't matter because I'm having fun.

    I’ve always believed that there are some inherent limitations when using a specific instrument (a guitar, a piano, or any other tool the composer excels at) as the foundation for creating music. While this approach can be deeply personal and intuitive, and helds excellent results, I think it tends to "anchor" the composition within the constraints of that instrument's range, mechanics, and inherent characteristics.
    As an example, a guitar naturally encourages chord progressions and voicings suited to its tuning and fretboard layout, while a piano might lead to harmonic structures shaped by its linear arrangement of keys. These tendencies can subtly guide or restrict your creative decisions.
    That made it, for me, very challenging to venture beyond the possibilities of my fallback piano.
    In essence, the music created in this way is often a reflection of the instrument itself as much as it is of the composer’s imagination. While this is definitely NOT a flaw, and it's woring pretty wellm I always wondered and tried, to push beyond these boundaries to explore (if possible) uncharted creative territories.

    My lack of musical knowledge is both problematic at times and also a boon, as I rarely worry about breaking musical rules, as I don’t really know or understand most of them lol

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