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This wasn't a scientific process. There was a dust-up and a lot of negative fallout from the way things were going. It seemed like some adjustments were needed. Some ideas were tried. The only thing certain is not everyone will agree about whether they're helpful or if they're garbage.
Oh. Sorry. I misread your comment. I missed that it's about things like artwork, etc.
Actually, that's been on my mind too as I've been moving things out that don't belong in the Other category. Might be something for @Michael to consider.
Like I said, the change is a good thing for me at least. I've been spending too much time on the site due to the more entertaining/interesting threads that aren't specifically about apps.
Spending less time here means I will hopefully stop falling for the usual new app hype that's full of endless exciting exclamation points, etc.... and finally stop buying more apps that I only use for a week or two and then forget them.
So yeah... I'm glad the entertaining stuff has been filed away, mostly out of sight from the main feed. The last couple of times I've scrolled the main feed, I've left the site in less than a minute or two after seeing nothing that interested me. That's a good thing.
I plan to use the extra time for arguing with my relatives about politics.
I'm going to get back to my photography more. The XP4N snaps were fun, but iPhone photography kinda made me miss having more control over the process. Just bought some new M43 camera stuff and a speedbooster to mount my old Nikkor glass on it. iPhone photography is great, but it got way too easy, less fun, and kinda boring.
Maybe like making music with apps gets too easy for some, so they pine for tweaking endless parameters, app combos, etc. and decide they'd prefer getting their hands in the mix more with eurorack type stuff. Sure, I can point an iPhone camera app at anything and the deep neural engine will make anything looks great. No need for skill, knowledge, experience, lens combinations, creative f-stops, shutter speeds, film choices, creative processing tricks, etc. - let the machine do it all and it'll almost always look just fine.
Nah, I want to get myself and my own hands back in the mix.
I'm still fascinated with what you can do with audio apps and sound experimentation... I'm just not quite as interested in talking about it so much anymore.
I'd already come to this conclusion a long time ago, but the entertaining threads here kept me coming back. Now, maybe I can get off the forums some, and get back out in the world more.
Will still check back here though for a quick skim every now and then
Yeah, i totally agree, XP4N is in no way ‘music content’. Don’t get me wrong, i couldn’t care less what category it’s in (I’ve already said that I’d prefer the Other category to be listed in the main topic anyway) but if the developer ‘being primarily a music app developer’ is enough to be considered other music content then i look forward to people opening discussions in the ‘Other Music Content’ and explaining their wildly obscure relationship to music which warrants them being in that category - seriously, it could be really entertaining - seven (correction: six) degrees of music content separation!
It would simply be moved by the moderators without discussion.
But you could then favorite the thread if you wanted to revel in the resulting howls of complaint. 😎
Ahh cool, I did wonder😄
And yeah, I’ve background thought it for a while, but seeing the XP4N thread exiled reminded me…
I commented publicly.
The reason I said anything was because Michael's Ground Rules clearly said "only music items" and people were abusing that.
It turns out he is more tolerant of non-music threads provided they don't become fights.
It seemed like some deviance from “music only” was tolerated as long as people behaved respectfully. The point of the policy seemed like it was to reduce the incidence of people being jerks to each other.
thank you Michael for providing this space
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i'm not a big e-engager, and consider this one of the few places i'm happy to extend into this method of communication.
like many forms of communication, things can be misinterpreted, mistakes can be made
i hope those who left, feel able to return.
learning to listen, and being able to reach even a disagreement, are useful and healthy no matter how we share - and in a world of bubbles, i think it's admirable that we try.
And whilst it does seem 'lesser' on the front page without those nuggets of interest, there is still a place for them in 'other' where they won't upset those unprepared.
i like to think of it as the top deck, or back of the bus
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OK.
I saw the "music only" rule as a fixed rule after the big punch up that happened a while back in the "UFOs Woo" thread that saw lots of nastyness and people getting banned. My memory (and I could be wrong) is that was when the Mods put their foot down and "music only" was the go.
I guess at some point there will be a flare up in "Other" when someone posts about politics, religion, health matters, immigration, sexual preferences etc... Things that people feel strongly about get strong responses.
I agree with all that you say here. I too avoid “e-engagement”, indeed this is the only place where I post anything (and it took me years of “read-only” to even get this far).
It upsets me when intolerance rears its ugly head because there’s more than enough of that in everyday life as it is. Some things that are said on here irritate me intensely but I ignore them and move on. There’s plenty more on here that’s of far more value. It’s worth remembering that we participate from all around the world, with widely differing cultures and backgrounds, and therefore have differing views about what is acceptable or not. However, we all have a common interest that we share and it would be a shame to lose this space due to intolerance. I think @Michael and the mods have come up with a very mature attempt to keep as many people as possible, as happy as possible.
@Svetlovska ‘s final message was headed with a quotation from Douglas Adams’ “Hitch-hiker’s Guide To The Galaxy”. I’d like to add another one from that prescient series of books, which seems very appropriate to me in this situation …
“This planet has - or rather had - a problem, which was this: most of the people on it were unhappy for pretty much most of the time. Many solutions were suggested for this problem, but most of these were largely concerned with the movements of small green pieces of paper, which is odd because on the whole it wasn't the small green pieces of paper that were unhappy.”
That’s more than enough from me, and I sincerely hope I haven’t caused even more upset. I just wanted to back up what you said.
I know it’s not a vote but I vote for not hiding the Other category and just showing all new threads. If some idiot starts spouting far right nonsense (this has been the most common reason for getting banned from what I have seen) then you’re still going to have to moderate them regardless of where on the forum they do it. Don’t be racist, don’t be a misogynist, don’t threaten other members, etc etc. I think you’re still going to have to step in.
I'm open to that if we can find the sweet spot. This is a first step in that direction. But I don't want to dive into the deep end immediately; we need to see if the community has the self-regulation for this first step to work, before we go further. I understand the impatience, but online life has changed in the last years, and my sense is that a little more care is called for. Maybe that's over-caution, but better over than under.
I doubt all that much is going to ultimately end up in the Other category anyway.
Some threads are hard to say if they belong in Other or somewhere else. Take the Observations thread. Great gobs of that are music related.
Yeah...
Maybe some Other subcategories like you have for General App Discussion? e.g., Current Events, Hot Topics, Paranormal...👽
I’m writing this for information purposes for Micheal not to engage in what would likely become a row. I will not answer anybody commenting to this, as by making this comment, I will be thought of as ‘far right’ and or someone that needs to be brow beaten until I no longer dissent. Discussion on a personal level regarding this topic is not worth my time, as it will just be used as a vehicle to create drama and division.
Stating ‘far right’ is part of the problem. It is a term used in many countries to label people that do not conform to a certain way of thinking.
Just before I left here a few years back, I spoke to some people that felt really sad they were leaving here, but they felt their voices were being drowned out if they ever disagreed with the generally accepted narrative here. The majority of let us just say ‘more vocal’ people here are definitely in favour of certain political leanings. ‘Pile ons’ were quite common back then. The music was really the only strong bond that kept the community together - it was a great community because of the sheer diversity of people, but those louder than most of a certain political persuasion were not happy with dissenting opinions.
Now it is pretty much an echo chamber vocally for the most part here. Terms like ‘far right’ are used as signals to anyone even daring to challenge the accepted norm. While the diversity still exists, the vocal segment are pretty much those that will argue and not discuss when anyone presents with an opinion too far from the dominant group accepted norm. This does not stop arguments or bust ups as it only takes one dissenter to rile a mob and infighting in dominant groups is common.
This seems all negative and some things have definitely changed from my perspective since I returned. I have noticed a lot of the people I used to chat with are gone or at least silent and when I tried to run one of the making sounds for an app threads, it’s uptake was nothing like the popularity it used to have. However, group activities such as musical challenges and the wonderful SOTMC remain. There is some wonderful music being posted and people are generally helpful for the most part. Some seem intent on arguments and some seem unable to post their comments to a thread question, preferring to aggressively argue with individual opinions instead, but their are still some wonderful people and positive things happening here.
The difficulty in enjoying this place comes from the enjoyable threads being swamped by the ‘drama’ threads. The threads that mention subjects like ‘Trump Guitars’ are obviously done to rile up division, as I doubt anyone here is stupid enough to not know that such a thread will start an argument at some point. It becomes obvious that some people love the ‘drama’ threads. I think they see them as a way to gain instant gratification from agreement from their peers and a way to find any dissent from their agreed narrative. This is obviously quite common on the internet.
The difference with this forum and what actually found us all some common ground, is our love for music and music making, that’s why I find it incredulous that the loudest voices are determined that we know that they are bored by music threads and want their ‘drama’ threads front and center. Not even a compromise of hiding the ‘drama’ threads from the main page is acceptable for them, they see it as a win for them pesky ‘far right’ bigots that just need putting in a field and having their thinking ‘readjusted’. I’m not even affiliated with right or left, as it’s pretty stupid division if you ask me, but many of the ‘other’ threads are simply activism in poor disguises.
My hope is that by moving the ‘other’ material to a separate section, it will give the forum music threads room to breath and that many of the silent majority will start engaging with them again. Maybe we can breath new life into the forum and we can all make more music and share material and ideas without the need for partisan ideals or attacking individuals, just open and honest dialogue about the one thing we all actually love here - the music!
Lots of very good points there.
@Fruitbat1919 thanks for your comment. I guess it comes down to the moderators held values on what crosses the threshold of acceptability at the end of the day. What constitutes hate, extremism, bullying, etc.
I know you were making a point but the use of terms like ‘they’ ‘them’ to describe active forum members doesn’t help in my opinion. It’s all just ‘us’ until someone goes too far and crosses that moderator defined threshold of what’s acceptable on a community music forum.
The ‘Other’ threads that I had in mind when I said it’s a shame to have them hidden were Bram’s awesome XP4N thread and Johnny’s inspiring and funny OT:Observations thread. These threads are community builders IMO and hardly hidden vehicles of activism.
For what it’s worth, I’ve just scrolled through the first three pages of the Other category subjects and they really don’t scream ‘activism’ or seem to have hidden agendas to me.
Surely this is part of the inherent problem with online forums and social media generally: we form assumptions over time about who various forum members are based on their comments and once those opinions begin to form, we then start to assume we know what they mean with certain comments. The thing is, we don’t really know each other so it’s easy to misinterpret and see an agenda where there is none (and, indeed, miss an agenda where there is one as maybe I’ve done?).
I had already moved the XP4N thread out of there before your post, and am leaning strongly toward moving the observations thread. Observations regularly has more content that is music related than not.
(Some disagreed with my reasoning for moving the XP4N thread. That's OK.)
Thanks Wim - appreciate the effort
Good decision, IMHO. That thread and many others highlight an effective creative community.
I think I will start an Other thread related to some non-XP4N photography we could be sharing on. Overtime I could see a photography or art category since the political Other traffic will not sit well with those types of sharing threads.
I second this. @Michael Let's make an "Other Art and Photography" section be created. I know @richardyot makes amazing art.
And there are a fair few photographers here as well.
But please don't allow sculpture or ceramics or any of that other artistic rot. That would be crossing the line!
It’s the bickering that ruins the forum. Oh wait, I’m doing it too.