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Sonicake Pocket Master as an iOS interface for guitar

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  • Could one of the owners please check if the set value in the Monitor item is retained after turning Sonicake off and on?

  • Yes it remembers the settings.

  • edited February 9

    @dblonde said:
    Yes it remembers the settings.

    Thank you. So let's have some fun :smile: I'll be sure to let you know about RTL. Btw I was pleasantly surprised by the price in the EU:

  • Yes thats a great price. Its slightly cheaper where I am and for info its sold out :)
    I guess its been very popular across the globe. Looking forward to the midi integration next in the newer firmware that we might get soon!

  • @dblonde said:
    Yes thats a great price. Its slightly cheaper where I am and for info its sold out :)
    I guess its been very popular across the globe. Looking forward to the midi integration next in the newer firmware that we might get soon!

    Definitely!

  • Someone local here is making and selling 3D printed bottom panels with a larger capacity battery as a mod. Ordered one, will post pics and review once i have it.

  • @dblonde said:
    Someone local here is making and selling 3D printed bottom panels with a larger capacity battery as a mod. Ordered one, will post pics and review once i have it.

    Interesting. How long does the internal battery last?

  • Oh wow that’s crazy @dblonde. I keep mine plugged in for the most part that that’s a dope mod for sure.

  • The latency is too much (but I’m at 48khz and 128 byte buffers) so I switched back to the IK Multimedia iRig HD X… it sounded as slow.

    So, I need to try 44.1 KHz in AUM and 64 byte buffering today.

    I love just putting the guitar and headphones into the PM and using Bluetooth to play a backing track. I think based on some settings that the Bluetooth input might be returned to the iPad mixed with the guitar and no latency between the signals. I’ll test to see if AUM records the PM input with both inputs mixed. This would me I could have a loop back for converting iTunes or other apps to an audio input with Apple’s obstruction of the original material. Need to check.

    Now I want a really low latency audio interface… I have a couple USB audio already I should re-visit:
    An entry level Presonus for the 00’s and a Xoom unit. My bet is the Xoom will win for recording in AUM.

    I made. A dozen clean presets and the FX in the Pocket Master are good. Much better than the digital guitar amp sim’s of the PodStation, Johnson or Digitech era as you would expect. But all these AUv3 FX apps need a low latency option… tho’ I probably won’t make any guitar centric tracks unless I solve for latency and probably not even then.

  • @McD said:
    The latency is too much (but I’m at 48khz and 128 byte buffers) so I switched back to the IK Multimedia iRig HD X… it sounded as slow.

    I was struggling with the Pocket Master’s latency as well. @wim mentioned latency and I wasn’t so sure it was an issue until I used it in Cubasis. In AUM for some reason it’s more tolerable but in Cubasis it was really bothersome. Long story short because of the latency I experienced in Cubasis I felt like I needed to buy a dedicated audio interface for the iPad so I ended up getting the Audient Evo 4. Comparatively it has very little perceived latency compared to the Pocket Master. I still love the Pocket Master for what it is and will probably use it for travel. Audient Evo 4 is about $130…at the time of purchase I got it for $104.

  • I wish you had written your latency comments a day earlier, @McD & @Uprightmusic. Now it looks like I'm going to try out how returns work on Amazon for the first time. :neutral:

  • @filo01 Amazon returns are pretty easy.

  • edited February 12

    So, Sonicake arrived an hour ago and I will definitely return it. I'm not quite the target audience, as my primary intention was to use it as a standard audio interface. Here it failed all the way. I couldn't measure the latency (more in this thread), but even by ear it's completely out of my tolerance. The other thing is that direct monitoring cannot be turned off completely, only suppressed.

    Here is a size comparison of Sonicake, Zoom AMS22 and NuX Mighty Pro for illustration. I was planning to just sell these two and replace them with the Sonicake, which I definitely won't do.

  • @filo01 said:
    So, Sonicake arrived an hour ago and I will definitely return it. I'm not quite the target audience, as my primary intention was to use it as a standard audio interface. Here it failed all the way. I couldn't measure the latency (more in this thread), but even by ear it's completely out of my tolerance. The other thing is that direct monitoring cannot be turned off completely, only suppressed.

    Here is a size comparison of Sonicake, Zoom AMS22 and NuX Mighty Pro for illustration. I was planning to just sell these two and replace them with the Sonicake, which I definitely won't do.

    Not being able to turn off direct monitoring seems like a major problem.

  • I think the interface part of it is not really the main goal, so if anyone is looking for it strictly as an interface you have better options.

    The reviews and demos I’ve seen of the internal sounds do sound very good, but I’ve had to stop myself from hitting “buy” because I really don’t need it. But for people looking for a cool practice amp or for good sounds that you can plug into a DI, this looks like it hits a sweet spot.

    I recently got TH-U essentials when it was free and I’m really liking the modeled amps in that. My pedalboard interacts with it nicely and the amps respond well. The license covered the iOS version too, which was cool. That, or the other usual guitar apps, with the donner hush-x and my little focusrite Scarlett mobile (I think that’s the name of it) works well. That only works with my iPad, not my 15 pro since that has no headphone jack, but it works well for the times when I might need something on the go

  • wimwim
    edited February 12

    I never expected it to be a good guitar interface. I'm pleased that it can get guitar into my iPad when I just want to quickly capture an idea that I like that came out of jamming with it standalone though. Sure I'll have to trim and adjust the laid down track, but at least the idea got captured with no hassle.

    The real value of it as an interface is in sending backing tracks, etc to it from the iPad. Sure, as soon as you get into round-trip, you have latency and monitoring issues to contend with. So ... I don't. I use it one-way. The latency coming from the iPad doesn't matter if all you're doing is sending it to listen to on the devie. The fact that you can even do this over Bluetooth is super handy.

    For me, used for what it does well, it's a great convenience tool and motivator to play more.

  • @wim i agree. I’m not necessarily opposed to using as an interface even with its latency I still think it’s usable especially at $64.

  • @Uprightmusic said:
    @wim i agree. I’m not necessarily opposed to using as an interface even with its latency I still think it’s usable especially at $64.

    I think where people are getting hit hard is in the round-trip. By that I mean using headphones plugged into the Pocket Master, sending guitar over to the iPad to go through FX, and then back to the device. That's just way too much latency for live playing in my book.

    If using it that way, it's better to monitor from the iPad rather than direct on the device. I managed to do this a few times by plugging in headphones on my iPad 9th gen after plugging in the Pocket Master. In that case the latency wasn't great, but was manageable.

    Whatever the use-case, one-way audio is far better. If it's one-way from the iPad to the Pocket Master, just to play against, latency isn't an issue at all.

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