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Very few synths and hosts will sync with the led positions. Most don’t send midi out at all when their controls change. Of the ones that do, even fewer dump their control values on preset change. Virtually none have the ability to automatically bind to the twister’s knobs. You have to set up mappings to the CCs that the twister sends manually.
Sorry. Not what you were hoping to hear, I’m sure.
In answer to the first question: yes, absolutely.
In answer to the second, Twister doesn't see the plugin's knob positions directly, while being comtrolled by the Twister. You have to set up a loopback using something like Surface Builder or Loopy. It can get a little weedy, but I've done it a few times. You can even set the arrangement up to snapshot a position (such as a starting mix) and push it to the Twister.
Twister works with Loopy Pro though 😉
Its not a new standard, most hardware devices that support this sort of thing achieve it by responding to receiving the same MIDI CC messages as they send.
As some have already told you, there arent too many plugins that support that directly themselves. Animoog stuff from Moog is a rare example that does. So to have this work more broadly, what you really need is a plugin host that can offer this sort of MIDI feedback. Because the parameters of a plugin, and changes to those including when a new synth plugin preset is loaded, are transmitted between host and plugin. So then you just need the host to be able to take that info and transmit a MIDI CC version of it to the fighter twister hardware.
This subject has come up a few times recently, and its something I became interested in because the Roto-Control from Melbourne Instruments works the same way, albeit with motorised knobs rather than LEDs, the MIDI side of things is the same.
Here is the most recent thread that someone started on the subject, they are using a different MIDI controller but the logic of the matter is exactly the same. And as usual Loopy Pro comes up as the most obvious host that has this feature working already:
https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/64235/synth-apps-that-can-send-midi-ccs-to-hardware
I wrote a Mozaic script that can be helpful with the Twister. It acts as a middle-man to pass midi through it on the way to control apps. It can serve to send the midi feedback to the Twister's LEDs, and it remembers the last value sent through it. When you reload a host session, it dumps those last values back to the Twister to set its leds.
It doesn't solve the whole problem by a long shot because it doesn't know anything about changes made to the apps directly, only what passes through it. It only helps if once set up, all changes are made from the Twister.
Here it is if it might be of any help: https://patchstorage.com/controller-tracker-and-snapshots/
Loopy Pro is an excellent host to use with the Twister. Many of the things you want it to do can be done (with some setup work) with Loopy as the host. Drambo will also have robust support for midi feedback once those features are out of the beta testing stage.
@wim I didn't know you were the author of the snapshotter. It's good basic kit.
Now all I need to do is pick up some hardware to make use of it. 😂
Moog Model 15 is such a lovely virtual synth; it's great to hear it might be possible. Will have to figure out how to get the feedback to the MIDI Fighter Twister. Currently have it set up in AUM.