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Sugar Bytes Dialekt groovebox app: now out on iPad and iPhone as well as desktop

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  • @Granc said:

    @SugarBytesRico said:

    @tyslothrop1 said:

    @SugarBytesRico said:
    Rico from Sugar Bytes here, I built this thing, ask me anything.

    Awesome to see new Sugar Bytes stuff on iOs! What will the app cost?

    24.99 for the iPad app,
    9.99 for the iPhone app.

    Rico, in Spain the price is 29,99
    Do you get more money % whit this price or only Apple?
    Is the same price in Germany?

    Mistake on our side, please check again.

  • @am1001 said:
    Hi. Bought iphone version - excellent app but the built in keyboard is unreliable in standalone mode on my iphone xs max. Can you have a bigger keyboard option somehow. Its fine when using as AU in garageband though.

    yes we have to do something here.

  • @catbox said:
    @SugarBytesRico Congratulations with the release! It is very fun and quirky and definitely has it’s own personality. (All good things!) There is a certain rubbery quality to the sounds and fx, which remind me a bit of Mouse on Mars and similar late 90s electronica. This is probably just a reflection of my age, but I am curious if anything in perticular been your inspiration when designing the sound engines?

    There was nothing special on my mind, I just wanted it clean and punchy. And it was a lot of fun designing these synth engines with the given limitations of just 3 knobs (4 in case of the bass wavetable).

  • edited April 29

    @SugarBytesRico

    Looks kike you forgot testing on iPad Mini ;) Latest model. Top menu completely invisible, borrom part of screen also cut partially :(

  • @dendy said:
    @SugarBytesRico

    Looks kike you forgot testing on iPad Mini ;) Latest model. Top menu completely invisible, borrom part of screen also cut partially :(

    Sorry for that, we will fix it.

  • playing with it - interesting concept, pretty well thought entire song/part/pattern structure .. i can see big potential for it as live performance tool - however i see one major problem for live performance use case .. i'll try explain

    i can't tweak any parameter during playback without overriding step-locked value .. when i perform with my digitakt/digitone, i use this all the time - for example some steps have p-locked cutoff value but then during performance i tweak cutoff from zero to max while locked steps are still playing on locked value other steps are just respecting my tweak

    Or in other works - tweaking knob during playback would not record tweaked value into sequencer - this would happen only when record button is enabled.

    Visually, during normal playback (record button not enabled) entire top switch step/ptrn/part/song/live may be disabled and any tweak will just affect values for non-step locked notes.. after enabling record button (while playback still running), it will work same way like now (tweaks are stores to sequence)

    Hope it makes sense. I would highly appreciate such update. Of course with playback stopped, everything shoudl work like now too, no change.

  • edited April 29

    @dendy said:
    i can't tweak any parameter during playback without overriding step-locked value .. when i perform with my digitakt/digitone, i use this all the time - for example some steps have p-locked cutoff value but then during performance i tweak cutoff from zero to max while locked steps are still playing on locked value other steps are just respecting my tweak

    Interesting!

    Thing is, in Dialekt all active steps call parameter values.

    But what I can imagine is, that I make it possible to have NO editing range active at all.
    While the parameter is touched, it is completely yours. As soon as you let go, it will play its sequencer-values again.

    Edit: The more I think about this, there could also be relative mode possible, where you can use the parameter to add/subtract from the sequenced parameter value.

    Abs: absolute value control
    Rel: relative value control.

    Rel will give me the headaches though... But I will try.

  • @SugarBytesRico It sounds absolutely amazing right out of the box, with no extra plugins. I've had some real fun with the multi-out as well. Well done. 👍🏻

  • @catbox Also. I’m pretty happy about this release. Keeping me in iosland.

  • edited April 29

    @SugarBytesRico said:
    But what I can imagine is, that I make it possible to have NO editing range active at all.
    While the parameter is touched, it is completely yours. As soon as you let go, it will play its sequencer-values again.

    That sounds almost perfect but not the part "as you let go, it will play it's sequencer-values"

    in that case it would be not much helpful .. imagine situation when you play live, you want for example slowly bring some filtered out sound - you move cutoff from zero to some value.. but then you want keep it play at that value - again remember that values set in "step" mode should ignore this tweak and keep at their locked value, cause they are often used for making some sort of groove which you want to keep even during live tweak)p.

    So, after you release knob, you can now tweak something else - it is expected previous tweaked knob keeps holding cutoff at value where you lastly tweaked it, not drop back to zero.

    I see where is main issue - /ptrn/part/song/live modes are simply writing values to sequencer after tweak (to multiple steps) - This is differnce from DT/DN where you have just "one step" mode (plock) - tweak param with simultaneously pressing one or more steps .. Otherwise (if no step pressed), tweak is not stored to sequencer at all, it is mentioned as sort of "global value" (which simply means it's value to use if step has not p-locked value - in Dialekt every tweak is stored to sequencer, always)

    I think my idea is not possible to meaningfully implement here .. not without some fundamental changes and any try to bend it just opens new can of worms.

    Hm, when i think a bit more about it - Maybe if you add to step/part/song/live another mode called "global" (glob), which would mean that tweak is not stored to sequencer.. this may solve everything .. but in that case there would be also needed option to delete tweaks stored in sequencer (in case you by mistake select for examole song mode a do some tweak, global mode would be then ignored cause all steps will have stored some value) - maybe long press on knob ?

    I think this may work - but that doesn't mean you have to feel like you must do it :-) If you don't like that idea or it would be problematic to implement just forget it .. i understand that this entire tweaking concept was designed a bit differently in Dialekt so all my thoughts here are just going in completely different direction ;-))

  • Really fast and fun to use.

    Although i have no idea what i am doing at the moment 😂
    https://youtube.com/shorts/TTlXMKyS8U4?si=Ok-qVKy654UA7sZ7

  • Is there a way to pin more than one pattern? Would be cool if I could tap the ones I want to play and it would run through those.

  • Inspiration machine 💥

  • Interesting - i realised i like iPhone version more than iPad version :-)) Somehiw this UI in smaller format on iPhone screen works for me much better 👍

    @Stuntman_mike said:
    Inspiration machine 💥

    yeah pretty much .. having lot of fun with it

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