MIDI loops and extended notes

oscillotus

Hi Folks!

When I hold a midi note before the recording of a MIDI loop or don't release it before the recording stops, the loop omits certain notes on playback and has a general weird behaviour on which and how the notes are played. Or it keeps playing the notes even though the loop is on the new revolution already.

Is this normal MIDI behaviour where all the note on/off messages need to be included in the in the loop without extending before or after the loop?

espiegel123

@oscillotus said:
Hi Folks!

When I hold a midi note before the recording of a MIDI loop or don't release it before the recording stops, the loop omits certain notes on playback and has a general weird behaviour on which and how the notes are played. Or it keeps playing the notes even though the loop is on the new revolution already.

Is this normal MIDI behaviour where all the note on/off messages need to be included in the in the loop without extending before or after the loop?

Please make a screen recording and post a link to it.

oscillotus

So, here I play 2 notes before the recording and release them during the recording. The first playback is okay, but then only 1 note plays :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZKfY95-w825jBSqB2crNeuVs91pEUVOJ/view?usp=drivesdk

Here I play 2 notes before recording and release the notes after the recording. The playback is not automatic, I need to stop and start again the loop so it plays :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/173PSsof6w9s64z5Kjq1ud8xD8OqbmH2B/view?usp=drivesdk

Here, I play 2 notes during the recording and release the notes after recording. The notes seem to extend beyond the loop :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YN_fY4lCF8xVGZZ8H0Y-Aoq0JMuXBhV9/view?usp=drivesdk

Thanks for looking at this

espiegel123

@oscillotus said:
So, here I play 2 notes before the recording and release them during the recording. The first playback is okay, but then only 1 note plays :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZKfY95-w825jBSqB2crNeuVs91pEUVOJ/view?usp=drivesdk

Here I play 2 notes before recording and release the notes after the recording. The playback is not automatic, I need to stop and start again the loop so it plays :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/173PSsof6w9s64z5Kjq1ud8xD8OqbmH2B/view?usp=drivesdk

Here, I play 2 notes during the recording and release the notes after recording. The notes seem to extend beyond the loop :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YN_fY4lCF8xVGZZ8H0Y-Aoq0JMuXBhV9/view?usp=drivesdk

Thanks for looking at this

If you save and reopen the projects, do they play as you would expect?

oscillotus

@espiegel123 said:

@oscillotus said:
So, here I play 2 notes before the recording and release them during the recording. The first playback is okay, but then only 1 note plays :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZKfY95-w825jBSqB2crNeuVs91pEUVOJ/view?usp=drivesdk

Here I play 2 notes before recording and release the notes after the recording. The playback is not automatic, I need to stop and start again the loop so it plays :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/173PSsof6w9s64z5Kjq1ud8xD8OqbmH2B/view?usp=drivesdk

Here, I play 2 notes during the recording and release the notes after recording. The notes seem to extend beyond the loop :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YN_fY4lCF8xVGZZ8H0Y-Aoq0JMuXBhV9/view?usp=drivesdk

Thanks for looking at this

If you save and reopen the projects, do they play as you would expect?

It behaves the same after saving, closing and reopening. Initially, this happened in another project. But to be certain it wasn't my project that was corrupted, I created a new project to make the videos.

oscillotus

@oscillotus said:

@espiegel123 said:

@oscillotus said:
So, here I play 2 notes before the recording and release them during the recording. The first playback is okay, but then only 1 note plays :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZKfY95-w825jBSqB2crNeuVs91pEUVOJ/view?usp=drivesdk

Here I play 2 notes before recording and release the notes after the recording. The playback is not automatic, I need to stop and start again the loop so it plays :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/173PSsof6w9s64z5Kjq1ud8xD8OqbmH2B/view?usp=drivesdk

Here, I play 2 notes during the recording and release the notes after recording. The notes seem to extend beyond the loop :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YN_fY4lCF8xVGZZ8H0Y-Aoq0JMuXBhV9/view?usp=drivesdk

Thanks for looking at this

If you save and reopen the projects, do they play as you would expect?

It behaves the same after saving, closing and reopening. Initially, this happened in another project. But to be certain it wasn't my project that was corrupted, I created a new project to make the videos.

@espiegel123, should I continue to investigate if this is an error on my side or does it behave the same for you?

espiegel123

@oscillotus i’ll get back to you if I need more information. One thing could you post a screenshot of your mixer in extended mode so that I can see the routing?

oscillotus

@espiegel123 said:
@oscillotus i’ll get back to you if I need more information. One thing could you post a screenshot of your mixer in extended mode so that I can see the routing?

Okay, thank you.

Here you go :

espiegel123

@oscillotus : I don’t need the screenshot. I was able to reproduce.

oscillotus

@espiegel123 said:
@oscillotus : I don’t need the screenshot. I was able to reproduce.

Alright, I appreciate it

espiegel123

The last case is an interesting one as it might be the behavior one would want (wrapping the note) in many cases .

oscillotus

@espiegel123 said:
The last case is an interesting one as it might be the behavior one would want (wrapping the note) in many cases .

I was also thinking that. I was debating if I should include it in my post. I think it might be nice to have the ability to cut it off or not depending on what one is trying to achieve!