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FAC Polyflo

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  • HelHel

    @eross said:
    anyone know how to send audio from one track in aum and have it trigger the envelope follower on polyflo on another track,
    in order to modulate things in polyflo? do you route it through another instance of polyflo?

    No need for another instance of polyflo , you can just use a bus send on one track and Mix bus on the polyflo track .
    Then set whichever Flow Processor to envelope follower .

  • SquishySquishy

    @Hel said:

    @eross said:
    anyone know how to send audio from one track in aum and have it trigger the envelope follower on polyflo on another track,
    in order to modulate things in polyflo? do you route it through another instance of polyflo?

    No need for another instance of polyflo , you can just use a bus send on one track and Mix bus on the polyflo track .
    Then set whichever Flow Processor to envelope follower .

    Works great, thanks! I was putting FLO in the Fx slot of whatever was feeding the follower, then sending that modulation signal to the volume parameter of other tracks. This works MUCH better haha. LEARNDING! 🤙

  • HelHel

    @Squishy said:

    @Hel said:

    @eross said:
    anyone know how to send audio from one track in aum and have it trigger the envelope follower on polyflo on another track,
    in order to modulate things in polyflo? do you route it through another instance of polyflo?

    No need for another instance of polyflo , you can just use a bus send on one track and Mix bus on the polyflo track .
    Then set whichever Flow Processor to envelope follower .

    Works great, thanks! I was putting FLO in the Fx slot of whatever was feeding the follower, then sending that modulation signal to the volume parameter of other tracks. This works MUCH better haha. LEARNDING! 🤙

    Thanks Squishy , it does work both ways. However doing this way you can easily remove the audio output channel altogether on the Polyflo channel, so no risk of accidentally turning on the Cv outputs .

  • gkillmastergkillmaster

    @Squishy said:

    @gkillmaster said:
    I got this to use with my Eurorack rig and ES-9 but for the life of me, I can't figure out how to send CV to my ES-9 over USB. the ES-9 shows up as an input but I see no way to set it up to output to specific channels on the ES-9.

    ES-9 is the interface used in the first YouTube short demo FAC put out, so ITS DOABLE! I wouldn’t know how though, only been using it in AUM and don’t own any interfaces. The manual definitely could have been a bit more expository for sure, but I’m kinda enjoying my blind fumbling through the functionality. The amount of pride I felt getting the Env Follower to work 😆 If you can’t figure it out, an email to the dev would prolly set ya straight

    Perhaps it’s in the Main CV menu? I don’t see a use for that stuff when using in AUM, so i assumed it was for hardware folks

    Thanks! I was having a hard time understanding how to set this up in either Live or AUM. The thing that tripped me up was assuming I could assign all the output channels for each "Flo" in the app. But you have to create a new track, one per Flo that you want to use. At least I can make it work that way.

  • SquishySquishy

    @gkillmaster said:

    @Squishy said:

    @gkillmaster said:
    I got this to use with my Eurorack rig and ES-9 but for the life of me, I can't figure out how to send CV to my ES-9 over USB. the ES-9 shows up as an input but I see no way to set it up to output to specific channels on the ES-9.

    ES-9 is the interface used in the first YouTube short demo FAC put out, so ITS DOABLE! I wouldn’t know how though, only been using it in AUM and don’t own any interfaces. The manual definitely could have been a bit more expository for sure, but I’m kinda enjoying my blind fumbling through the functionality. The amount of pride I felt getting the Env Follower to work 😆 If you can’t figure it out, an email to the dev would prolly set ya straight

    Perhaps it’s in the Main CV menu? I don’t see a use for that stuff when using in AUM, so i assumed it was for hardware folks

    Thanks! I was having a hard time understanding how to set this up in either Live or AUM. The thing that tripped me up was assuming I could assign all the output channels for each "Flo" in the app. But you have to create a new track, one per Flo that you want to use. At least I can make it work that way.

    Glad you found success! 🤘 it’s a great feeling, figuring things out.
    Not sure what you’re referring to by “hav[ing] to create a new track, one per FLO that you want to use”. When hosting in AUM, you can send out all the FLOs to different midi channels and ccs from one instance of the app, no need for multiples. If you’re referring to external routing, my mistake and disregard (but that sounds like a pain in the arse 😬)

  • gkillmastergkillmaster
    edited October 2025

    @Squishy said:

    @gkillmaster said:

    @Squishy said:

    @gkillmaster said:
    I got this to use with my Eurorack rig and ES-9 but for the life of me, I can't figure out how to send CV to my ES-9 over USB. the ES-9 shows up as an input but I see no way to set it up to output to specific channels on the ES-9.

    ES-9 is the interface used in the first YouTube short demo FAC put out, so ITS DOABLE! I wouldn’t know how though, only been using it in AUM and don’t own any interfaces. The manual definitely could have been a bit more expository for sure, but I’m kinda enjoying my blind fumbling through the functionality. The amount of pride I felt getting the Env Follower to work 😆 If you can’t figure it out, an email to the dev would prolly set ya straight

    Perhaps it’s in the Main CV menu? I don’t see a use for that stuff when using in AUM, so i assumed it was for hardware folks

    Thanks! I was having a hard time understanding how to set this up in either Live or AUM. The thing that tripped me up was assuming I could assign all the output channels for each "Flo" in the app. But you have to create a new track, one per Flo that you want to use. At least I can make it work that way.

    Glad you found success! 🤘 it’s a great feeling, figuring things out.
    Not sure what you’re referring to by “hav[ing] to create a new track, one per FLO that you want to use”. When hosting in AUM, you can send out all the FLOs to different midi channels and ccs from one instance of the app, no need for multiples. If you’re referring to external routing, my mistake and disregard (but that sounds like a pain in the arse 😬)

    I'm referring to sending control voltage for each Flo to different channels of my ES-9 audio interface. I would imagine it would work the same as the MIDI channels.

    edit: just realized I can send them at least in pairs from AUM. One instance to channels 9 & 10 and another instance to 11 & 12 etc. using the Main CV outputs.

  • HelHel

    @gkillmaster said:

    @Squishy said:

    @gkillmaster said:

    @Squishy said:

    @gkillmaster said:
    I got this to use with my Eurorack rig and ES-9 but for the life of me, I can't figure out how to send CV to my ES-9 over USB. the ES-9 shows up as an input but I see no way to set it up to output to specific channels on the ES-9.

    ES-9 is the interface used in the first YouTube short demo FAC put out, so ITS DOABLE! I wouldn’t know how though, only been using it in AUM and don’t own any interfaces. The manual definitely could have been a bit more expository for sure, but I’m kinda enjoying my blind fumbling through the functionality. The amount of pride I felt getting the Env Follower to work 😆 If you can’t figure it out, an email to the dev would prolly set ya straight

    Perhaps it’s in the Main CV menu? I don’t see a use for that stuff when using in AUM, so i assumed it was for hardware folks

    Thanks! I was having a hard time understanding how to set this up in either Live or AUM. The thing that tripped me up was assuming I could assign all the output channels for each "Flo" in the app. But you have to create a new track, one per Flo that you want to use. At least I can make it work that way.

    Glad you found success! 🤘 it’s a great feeling, figuring things out.
    Not sure what you’re referring to by “hav[ing] to create a new track, one per FLO that you want to use”. When hosting in AUM, you can send out all the FLOs to different midi channels and ccs from one instance of the app, no need for multiples. If you’re referring to external routing, my mistake and disregard (but that sounds like a pain in the arse 😬)

    I'm referring to sending control voltage for each Flo to different channels of my ES-9 audio interface. I would imagine it would work the same as the MIDI channels.

    edit: just realized I can send them at least in pairs from AUM. One instance to channels 9 & 10 and another instance to 11 & 12 etc. using the Main CV outputs.

    The way I have it set up with my es 10 is to utilise AUM multi bus instance . Each flow then goes to whatever output you choose and this way you only need 1 instance of polyflo .

  • gkillmastergkillmaster

    @Hel said:

    @gkillmaster said:

    @Squishy said:

    @gkillmaster said:

    @Squishy said:

    @gkillmaster said:
    I got this to use with my Eurorack rig and ES-9 but for the life of me, I can't figure out how to send CV to my ES-9 over USB. the ES-9 shows up as an input but I see no way to set it up to output to specific channels on the ES-9.

    ES-9 is the interface used in the first YouTube short demo FAC put out, so ITS DOABLE! I wouldn’t know how though, only been using it in AUM and don’t own any interfaces. The manual definitely could have been a bit more expository for sure, but I’m kinda enjoying my blind fumbling through the functionality. The amount of pride I felt getting the Env Follower to work 😆 If you can’t figure it out, an email to the dev would prolly set ya straight

    Perhaps it’s in the Main CV menu? I don’t see a use for that stuff when using in AUM, so i assumed it was for hardware folks

    Thanks! I was having a hard time understanding how to set this up in either Live or AUM. The thing that tripped me up was assuming I could assign all the output channels for each "Flo" in the app. But you have to create a new track, one per Flo that you want to use. At least I can make it work that way.

    Glad you found success! 🤘 it’s a great feeling, figuring things out.
    Not sure what you’re referring to by “hav[ing] to create a new track, one per FLO that you want to use”. When hosting in AUM, you can send out all the FLOs to different midi channels and ccs from one instance of the app, no need for multiples. If you’re referring to external routing, my mistake and disregard (but that sounds like a pain in the arse 😬)

    I'm referring to sending control voltage for each Flo to different channels of my ES-9 audio interface. I would imagine it would work the same as the MIDI channels.

    edit: just realized I can send them at least in pairs from AUM. One instance to channels 9 & 10 and another instance to 11 & 12 etc. using the Main CV outputs.

    The way I have it set up with my es 10 is to utilise AUM multi bus instance . Each flow then goes to whatever output you choose and this way you only need 1 instance of polyflo .

    How do you tell each flow which bus to send to in the polyflo app?

  • SquishySquishy

    @gkillmaster said:

    @Squishy said:

    @gkillmaster said:

    @Squishy said:

    @gkillmaster said:
    I got this to use with my Eurorack rig and ES-9 but for the life of me, I can't figure out how to send CV to my ES-9 over USB. the ES-9 shows up as an input but I see no way to set it up to output to specific channels on the ES-9.

    ES-9 is the interface used in the first YouTube short demo FAC put out, so ITS DOABLE! I wouldn’t know how though, only been using it in AUM and don’t own any interfaces. The manual definitely could have been a bit more expository for sure, but I’m kinda enjoying my blind fumbling through the functionality. The amount of pride I felt getting the Env Follower to work 😆 If you can’t figure it out, an email to the dev would prolly set ya straight

    Perhaps it’s in the Main CV menu? I don’t see a use for that stuff when using in AUM, so i assumed it was for hardware folks

    Thanks! I was having a hard time understanding how to set this up in either Live or AUM. The thing that tripped me up was assuming I could assign all the output channels for each "Flo" in the app. But you have to create a new track, one per Flo that you want to use. At least I can make it work that way.

    Glad you found success! 🤘 it’s a great feeling, figuring things out.
    Not sure what you’re referring to by “hav[ing] to create a new track, one per FLO that you want to use”. When hosting in AUM, you can send out all the FLOs to different midi channels and ccs from one instance of the app, no need for multiples. If you’re referring to external routing, my mistake and disregard (but that sounds like a pain in the arse 😬)

    I'm referring to sending control voltage for each Flo to different channels of my ES-9 audio interface. I would imagine it would work the same as the MIDI channels.

    edit: just realized I can send them at least in pairs from AUM. One instance to channels 9 & 10 and another instance to 11 & 12 etc. using the Main CV outputs.

    Roger!

    Btw if you host in Drambo you don’t have to go through the pop up menu at all for routing; no midi cc or channel selecting needed. Just the modular drambo way with the imaginary cables 👍

  • gkillmastergkillmaster

    @Squishy said:

    @gkillmaster said:

    @Squishy said:

    @gkillmaster said:

    @Squishy said:

    @gkillmaster said:
    I got this to use with my Eurorack rig and ES-9 but for the life of me, I can't figure out how to send CV to my ES-9 over USB. the ES-9 shows up as an input but I see no way to set it up to output to specific channels on the ES-9.

    ES-9 is the interface used in the first YouTube short demo FAC put out, so ITS DOABLE! I wouldn’t know how though, only been using it in AUM and don’t own any interfaces. The manual definitely could have been a bit more expository for sure, but I’m kinda enjoying my blind fumbling through the functionality. The amount of pride I felt getting the Env Follower to work 😆 If you can’t figure it out, an email to the dev would prolly set ya straight

    Perhaps it’s in the Main CV menu? I don’t see a use for that stuff when using in AUM, so i assumed it was for hardware folks

    Thanks! I was having a hard time understanding how to set this up in either Live or AUM. The thing that tripped me up was assuming I could assign all the output channels for each "Flo" in the app. But you have to create a new track, one per Flo that you want to use. At least I can make it work that way.

    Glad you found success! 🤘 it’s a great feeling, figuring things out.
    Not sure what you’re referring to by “hav[ing] to create a new track, one per FLO that you want to use”. When hosting in AUM, you can send out all the FLOs to different midi channels and ccs from one instance of the app, no need for multiples. If you’re referring to external routing, my mistake and disregard (but that sounds like a pain in the arse 😬)

    I'm referring to sending control voltage for each Flo to different channels of my ES-9 audio interface. I would imagine it would work the same as the MIDI channels.

    edit: just realized I can send them at least in pairs from AUM. One instance to channels 9 & 10 and another instance to 11 & 12 etc. using the Main CV outputs.

    Roger!

    Btw if you host in Drambo you don’t have to go through the pop up menu at all for routing; no midi cc or channel selecting needed. Just the modular drambo way with the imaginary cables 👍

    Thanks for the info. I'll look into this!

  • lasselulasselu

    Hey @Gavinski , how did you do this?

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/oD32nIgs1vo

  • JumpercollinsJumpercollins

    Question is AUM the only host app you can send/ map out midi cc messages from POLYFLO to learn another 3rd party synth AU apps parameters? Are there any iOS iPad OS DAWS that let you do this ? Thinking the more linear style ie Logic Pro etc ?

  • GavinskiGavinski
    edited October 2025

    @lasselu said:
    Hey @Gavinski , how did you do this?

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/oD32nIgs1vo

    Some of the flo functions allow you to send out midi notes

  • lasselulasselu

    @Gavinski said:

    @lasselu said:
    Hey @Gavinski , how did you do this?

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/oD32nIgs1vo

    Some of the flo functions allow you to send out midi notes

    Aha, time to go deep with the manual then... :)

  • HelHel

    @gkillmaster said:

    @Hel said:

    @gkillmaster said:

    @Squishy said:

    @gkillmaster said:

    @Squishy said:

    @gkillmaster said:
    I got this to use with my Eurorack rig and ES-9 but for the life of me, I can't figure out how to send CV to my ES-9 over USB. the ES-9 shows up as an input but I see no way to set it up to output to specific channels on the ES-9.

    ES-9 is the interface used in the first YouTube short demo FAC put out, so ITS DOABLE! I wouldn’t know how though, only been using it in AUM and don’t own any interfaces. The manual definitely could have been a bit more expository for sure, but I’m kinda enjoying my blind fumbling through the functionality. The amount of pride I felt getting the Env Follower to work 😆 If you can’t figure it out, an email to the dev would prolly set ya straight

    Perhaps it’s in the Main CV menu? I don’t see a use for that stuff when using in AUM, so i assumed it was for hardware folks

    Thanks! I was having a hard time understanding how to set this up in either Live or AUM. The thing that tripped me up was assuming I could assign all the output channels for each "Flo" in the app. But you have to create a new track, one per Flo that you want to use. At least I can make it work that way.

    Glad you found success! 🤘 it’s a great feeling, figuring things out.
    Not sure what you’re referring to by “hav[ing] to create a new track, one per FLO that you want to use”. When hosting in AUM, you can send out all the FLOs to different midi channels and ccs from one instance of the app, no need for multiples. If you’re referring to external routing, my mistake and disregard (but that sounds like a pain in the arse 😬)

    I'm referring to sending control voltage for each Flo to different channels of my ES-9 audio interface. I would imagine it would work the same as the MIDI channels.

    edit: just realized I can send them at least in pairs from AUM. One instance to channels 9 & 10 and another instance to 11 & 12 etc. using the Main CV outputs.

    The way I have it set up with my es 10 is to utilise AUM multi bus instance . Each flow then goes to whatever output you choose and this way you only need 1 instance of polyflo .

    How do you tell each flow which bus to send to in the polyflo app?

    Hi Gkillmaster.

    Let’s say in AUM you have Polyflo on an Audio channel and you want to send out each flo to its own Expert sleepers channel.
    So add another audio channel and then mute or disable the output (if you haven’t yet assigned the usb output.)
    Click on the effects slot of the new channel and choose load multi bus audio unit instances . Choose Fac Polyflo .
    There are two numbers above each other next to the Polyflo symbol click on those to choose which Polyflo goes to your audio interface. Add more Audio channels and repeat.

  • gkillmastergkillmaster

    @Hel said:

    @gkillmaster said:

    @Hel said:

    @gkillmaster said:

    @Squishy said:

    @gkillmaster said:

    @Squishy said:

    @gkillmaster said:
    I got this to use with my Eurorack rig and ES-9 but for the life of me, I can't figure out how to send CV to my ES-9 over USB. the ES-9 shows up as an input but I see no way to set it up to output to specific channels on the ES-9.

    ES-9 is the interface used in the first YouTube short demo FAC put out, so ITS DOABLE! I wouldn’t know how though, only been using it in AUM and don’t own any interfaces. The manual definitely could have been a bit more expository for sure, but I’m kinda enjoying my blind fumbling through the functionality. The amount of pride I felt getting the Env Follower to work 😆 If you can’t figure it out, an email to the dev would prolly set ya straight

    Perhaps it’s in the Main CV menu? I don’t see a use for that stuff when using in AUM, so i assumed it was for hardware folks

    Thanks! I was having a hard time understanding how to set this up in either Live or AUM. The thing that tripped me up was assuming I could assign all the output channels for each "Flo" in the app. But you have to create a new track, one per Flo that you want to use. At least I can make it work that way.

    Glad you found success! 🤘 it’s a great feeling, figuring things out.
    Not sure what you’re referring to by “hav[ing] to create a new track, one per FLO that you want to use”. When hosting in AUM, you can send out all the FLOs to different midi channels and ccs from one instance of the app, no need for multiples. If you’re referring to external routing, my mistake and disregard (but that sounds like a pain in the arse 😬)

    I'm referring to sending control voltage for each Flo to different channels of my ES-9 audio interface. I would imagine it would work the same as the MIDI channels.

    edit: just realized I can send them at least in pairs from AUM. One instance to channels 9 & 10 and another instance to 11 & 12 etc. using the Main CV outputs.

    The way I have it set up with my es 10 is to utilise AUM multi bus instance . Each flow then goes to whatever output you choose and this way you only need 1 instance of polyflo .

    How do you tell each flow which bus to send to in the polyflo app?

    Hi Gkillmaster.

    Let’s say in AUM you have Polyflo on an Audio channel and you want to send out each flo to its own Expert sleepers channel.
    So add another audio channel and then mute or disable the output (if you haven’t yet assigned the usb output.)
    Click on the effects slot of the new channel and choose load multi bus audio unit instances . Choose Fac Polyflo .
    There are two numbers above each other next to the Polyflo symbol click on those to choose which Polyflo goes to your audio interface. Add more Audio channels and repeat.

    Thanks a lot. Finally got this to work! The final trick was to convert the stereo audio tracks to mono in AUM. Thanks for your tip. Pointed me in the right direction!

  • HelHel

    Loving this app , I’ve just discovered that the envelope follower in Polyflo will also take cv signals as well as audio .
    I am currently using a tidal modulator from mirack to output in a flow processor which you can then process with other flo processors .

  • SquishySquishy

    @Hel said:
    Loving this app , I’ve just discovered that the envelope follower in Polyflo will also take cv signals as well as audio .
    I am currently using a tidal modulator from mirack to output in a flow processor which you can then process with other flo processors .

    Never even thought of this, thanks! Prolly get some real interesting results pairing FLO and the Geodesic modules together too 👍

  • NeuMNeuM
    edited October 2025

    @Squishy said:
    Hazaa! Gotta nice long weekend to figure out the ins and outs of this one. Let the modulated mangling commence!
    (FAC makes such approachable, sleek UI!)

    I’m only responding because you misspelled this word several times. I don’t usually address spelling errors. It’s spelled “Huzzah” and it’s at least as old as the works of William Shakespeare.

  • SquishySquishy

    @NeuM said:

    @Squishy said:
    Hazaa! Gotta nice long weekend to figure out the ins and outs of this one. Let the modulated mangling commence!
    (FAC makes such approachable, sleek UI!)

    I’m only responding because you misspelled this word several times. I don’t usually address spelling errors. It’s spelled “Huzzah” and it’s at least as old as the works of William Shakespeare.

    Can’t say I won’t do it again, but noted!
    (I think Hazaa is Arabic so it’s got ya beat mr Shakespeare…)

  • NeuMNeuM

    @Squishy said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Squishy said:
    Hazaa! Gotta nice long weekend to figure out the ins and outs of this one. Let the modulated mangling commence!
    (FAC makes such approachable, sleek UI!)

    I’m only responding because you misspelled this word several times. I don’t usually address spelling errors. It’s spelled “Huzzah” and it’s at least as old as the works of William Shakespeare.

    Can’t say I won’t do it again, but noted!
    (I think Hazaa is Arabic so it’s got ya beat mr Shakespeare…)

    😉

  • aaaaaa
    edited November 2025

    @Gavinski said:

    @eross said:
    anyone know how to send audio from one track in aum and have it trigger the envelope follower on polyflo on another track,
    in order to modulate things in polyflo? do you route it through another instance of polyflo?

    Haven't actually tried yet but I'm assuming you'd use the multi out feature. You'd open the main instance of polyflo on the track you want to modulate. You'd open a multi out instance on the track you want to use as sidechain source

    What's the next step to get the sidechain input to work? In AUM I have PolyFlo in the FX slot of one channel, and the multiFX version on another channel, but I can't figure out what sort of configuration within the PolyFlo app gives me access to the sidechain input.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @aaa said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @eross said:
    anyone know how to send audio from one track in aum and have it trigger the envelope follower on polyflo on another track,
    in order to modulate things in polyflo? do you route it through another instance of polyflo?

    Haven't actually tried yet but I'm assuming you'd use the multi out feature. You'd open the main instance of polyflo on the track you want to modulate. You'd open a multi out instance on the track you want to use as sidechain source

    What's the next step to get the sidechain input to work? In AUM I have PolyFlo in the FX slot of one channel, and the multiFX version on another channel, but I can't figure out what sort of configuration within the PolyFlo app gives me access to the sidechain input.

    Think I knew this but have forgotten - contact the dev?

  • GavinskiGavinski
    edited November 2025

    @Gavinski said:

    @aaa said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @eross said:
    anyone know how to send audio from one track in aum and have it trigger the envelope follower on polyflo on another track,
    in order to modulate things in polyflo? do you route it through another instance of polyflo?

    Haven't actually tried yet but I'm assuming you'd use the multi out feature. You'd open the main instance of polyflo on the track you want to modulate. You'd open a multi out instance on the track you want to use as sidechain source

    What's the next step to get the sidechain input to work? In AUM I have PolyFlo in the FX slot of one channel, and the multiFX version on another channel, but I can't figure out what sort of configuration within the PolyFlo app gives me access to the sidechain input.

    Think I knew this but have forgotten - contact the dev?


    Ok, yeah, see screenshot. Make sure you are using PolyFlo loaded as an audio FX, not a midi processor. Open the second instance as multi out. Be sure to set the section on the right to External, as shown in the screenshot. I have a bunch of videos walking through PolyFlo on my Patreon btw (only looking at the midi aspect, not CV, mind you).

  • Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredrWrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

    @stown said:
    Thanks @timfromtheborder! Yeah that's about what I was thinking. I have a friend who is mostly modular, loves lfo stuff, but doesn't have an iPad.... I keep an eye out for apps to draw him over to the dark side (lol...iPad as the "darkside" in a vs modular rabbithole scenario). He's a definite cv candidate. :)

    I am a depraved app addict, and yet I've still spent ten times as much money on modular.

  • AileromAilerom

    Don't know how but this one slipped under the radar. Only now realized my FAC folder is incomplete. Off to youtube.

  • FizzyLizzy27FizzyLizzy27

    Anyone have iOS synths they’d recommend using this with? I have a lot of fun setting it up with Bleep from jAmp.

  • egobeatsegobeats

    is the flo signal setup still a chore or has it been streamlined @ all? i cant find a pdf guide

  • SquishySquishy

    Hasn’t changed but ya get used to it

  • egobeatsegobeats

    Is it a pain in the ass to setup everytime you use it? Lfoh is a pain and most seem to think it's the easiest (mlfo is much easier, imo)

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