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Baby Audio - Tekno - January

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  • Awesome! I do have a little trouble with trying to hit the little buttons like randomizer, locking the steps, it’s sometimes hit and miss. Kind of used to the Octachron sequencer with it’s big fat layout. Anyway, still fresh with this thing, I think Chowdhury has made a superb drum synth!!

  • @FPC said:
    Does this output midi? I mean will it's sequencer dump it's output to a DAW?

    Also has anyone tried it in Logic? Does bounce in place work well?

    Thanks

    As far as I know, there is no 'Midi Output' (or Midi Export) in the iOS version.

    Bounce/Render/Freeze etc. work properly in LogicPro for iPad. AUv3 multi-out works too after the classic work-around trick that needs to be done once per AUv3 to 'validate it' (ie. open an instance of Tekno AUv3 in LogicPro for iPad, close LogicPro for iPad, reload the project and replace Tekno and voila the multi-out options are available).
    Routing is done in Tekno's Hamburger menu.

    Mac version of Tekno still seems to have the same 'bug' that was fixed in the iOS version (Ghost notes when starting recording).

    Personally I miss more control over how velocity affects the synthesis parameters as well as control over pitch in the sequencer.

    It's version 1.1 so no one knows what they are cooking for V1.5 etc.

  • @Slush said:
    Awesome! I do have a little trouble with trying to hit the little buttons like randomizer, locking the steps, it’s sometimes hit and miss. Kind of used to the Octachron sequencer with it’s big fat layout. Anyway, still fresh with this thing, I think Chowdhury has made a superb drum synth!!

    I did mention that multiple times during beta, Apple Pencil to the rescue :sunglasses:

  • Hope some beta slots free up now that it's released

  • @Samu said:

    @FPC said:
    Does this output midi? I mean will it's sequencer dump it's output to a DAW?

    Also has anyone tried it in Logic? Does bounce in place work well?

    Thanks

    As far as I know, there is no 'Midi Output' (or Midi Export) in the iOS version.

    Bounce/Render/Freeze etc. work properly in LogicPro for iPad. AUv3 multi-out works too after the classic work-around trick that needs to be done once per AUv3 to 'validate it' (ie. open an instance of Tekno AUv3 in LogicPro for iPad, close LogicPro for iPad, reload the project and replace Tekno and voila the multi-out options are available).
    Routing is done in Tekno's Hamburger menu.

    Mac version of Tekno still seems to have the same 'bug' that was fixed in the iOS version (Ghost notes when starting recording).

    Personally I miss more control over how velocity affects the synthesis parameters as well as control over pitch in the sequencer.

    It's version 1.1 so no one knows what they are cooking for V1.5 etc.

    Thank you.

    Sorry one more question! Does the sequencer have multiple patterns? And if it does can you switch those patterns by midi note data? Like Hammerhead or Drum Computer (C-3 for pattern 1, C#-3 for pattern 2 etc)?

  • @FPC said:

    @Samu said:

    @FPC said:
    Does this output midi? I mean will it's sequencer dump it's output to a DAW?

    Also has anyone tried it in Logic? Does bounce in place work well?

    Thanks

    As far as I know, there is no 'Midi Output' (or Midi Export) in the iOS version.

    Bounce/Render/Freeze etc. work properly in LogicPro for iPad. AUv3 multi-out works too after the classic work-around trick that needs to be done once per AUv3 to 'validate it' (ie. open an instance of Tekno AUv3 in LogicPro for iPad, close LogicPro for iPad, reload the project and replace Tekno and voila the multi-out options are available).
    Routing is done in Tekno's Hamburger menu.

    Mac version of Tekno still seems to have the same 'bug' that was fixed in the iOS version (Ghost notes when starting recording).

    Personally I miss more control over how velocity affects the synthesis parameters as well as control over pitch in the sequencer.

    It's version 1.1 so no one knows what they are cooking for V1.5 etc.

    Thank you.

    Sorry one more question! Does the sequencer have multiple patterns? And if it does can you switch those patterns by midi note data? Like Hammerhead or Drum Computer (C-3 for pattern 1, C#-3 for pattern 2 etc)?

    Not that I've seen. Personally I use an external sequencer (Pattern Region in Logic) when ever I can...

  • @Samu said:

    @FPC said:

    @Samu said:

    @FPC said:
    Does this output midi? I mean will it's sequencer dump it's output to a DAW?

    Also has anyone tried it in Logic? Does bounce in place work well?

    Thanks

    As far as I know, there is no 'Midi Output' (or Midi Export) in the iOS version.

    Bounce/Render/Freeze etc. work properly in LogicPro for iPad. AUv3 multi-out works too after the classic work-around trick that needs to be done once per AUv3 to 'validate it' (ie. open an instance of Tekno AUv3 in LogicPro for iPad, close LogicPro for iPad, reload the project and replace Tekno and voila the multi-out options are available).
    Routing is done in Tekno's Hamburger menu.

    Mac version of Tekno still seems to have the same 'bug' that was fixed in the iOS version (Ghost notes when starting recording).

    Personally I miss more control over how velocity affects the synthesis parameters as well as control over pitch in the sequencer.

    It's version 1.1 so no one knows what they are cooking for V1.5 etc.

    Thank you.

    Sorry one more question! Does the sequencer have multiple patterns? And if it does can you switch those patterns by midi note data? Like Hammerhead or Drum Computer (C-3 for pattern 1, C#-3 for pattern 2 etc)?

    Not that I've seen. Personally I use an external sequencer (Pattern Region in Logic) when ever I can...

    Thank you.

    Shame. I always like to use an app's built-in sequencer when I can. Think I'll skip this one then...

  • @egobeats said:
    Hope some beta slots free up now that it's released

    I doubt that will happen haha, but u never know

  • The ‘human’ slider is great too, excellent for tonal variations. The more I fiddle with Tekno the better it gets. I also like to add some delay and a plate to the whole as well, and Punchlab to crunch it up. Really, it could use an internal delay, good for rumbles and all. Just take the delay from BA-1 and put it into Tekno! B)

  • @Samu said:

    @oldsynthguy said:
    Does the randomiser in the sequencer randomise settings in individual steps (e.g. pitch, velocity etc.) as well as just the number and position of step triggers?

    Cheers!

    As far as I can see there is no per step pitch option in the sequencer but velocity and some other options are randomized.

    That's correct. Per step pitch will be a 2.0 thing!

  • @FPC said:
    Does this output midi? I mean will it's sequencer dump it's output to a DAW?

    Also has anyone tried it in Logic? Does bounce in place work well?

    Thanks

    It does not output MIDI at this time. 2.0 :)

  • @Samu “ Personally I miss more control over how velocity affects the synthesis parameters…”

    Indeed , looking through the manual there seems scant reference to this -
    no velocity control on individual voices or calibration section -
    just a Global on/off for velocity affecting voices , somehow ? … with no further explanation .

    Seems a serious lack in a drum synthesiser , could @tristan explain how the little there is works ? ,
    &maybe why they chose to limit this dimension of programmability ?

  • edited January 8

    @RetroNewb said:
    @Samu “ Personally I miss more control over how velocity affects the synthesis parameters…”

    Indeed , looking through the manual there seems scant reference to this -
    no velocity control on individual voices or calibration section -
    just a Global on/off for velocity affecting voices , somehow ? … with no further explanation .

    Seems a serious lack in a drum synthesiser , could @tristan explain how the little there is works ? ,
    &maybe why they chose to limit this dimension of programmability ?

    For me Tekno is about immediacy and ease of use. It replaces my use of sampled synth drums and gives more organic potential via the manipulation of curated simple parameters. Adding velocity programming control/hookups would be sweet but I think that could add a layer of complexity that may work against your average user. Having velocity settings play nice with the excellent and easily accessible randomization feature would likely be very challenging to implement as well. Right now just about every roll sounds cool to me. Adding velocity routing to various parameters would likely be challenging to maintain that batting average. If a person wants full drum synthesis depth and power I assume just using a full on exposed synth engine and not a more curated tool like this would be their best bet.

  • @AudioGus for me “organic potential via automation of parameters” IS exactly what velocity modulation brings to a drum synth , ho hum .
    not looking for a fight , was just asking .

  • edited January 8

    @RetroNewb said:
    @AudioGus for me “organic potential via automation of parameters” IS exactly what velocity modulation brings to a drum synth , ho hum .

    Yes! I agree. But I did also highlight 'simple' a lot in my block of apparently too much text. :) Also note I edited it to say "organic potential via the manipulation of curated simple parameters"

    not looking for a fight , was just asking .

    Not fighting at all, just excited this made it to iOS as I have been loving it on desktop. ;)

  • @FPC said:

    @Samu said:

    @FPC said:

    @Samu said:

    @FPC said:
    Does this output midi? I mean will it's sequencer dump it's output to a DAW?

    Also has anyone tried it in Logic? Does bounce in place work well?

    Thanks

    As far as I know, there is no 'Midi Output' (or Midi Export) in the iOS version.

    Bounce/Render/Freeze etc. work properly in LogicPro for iPad. AUv3 multi-out works too after the classic work-around trick that needs to be done once per AUv3 to 'validate it' (ie. open an instance of Tekno AUv3 in LogicPro for iPad, close LogicPro for iPad, reload the project and replace Tekno and voila the multi-out options are available).
    Routing is done in Tekno's Hamburger menu.

    Mac version of Tekno still seems to have the same 'bug' that was fixed in the iOS version (Ghost notes when starting recording).

    Personally I miss more control over how velocity affects the synthesis parameters as well as control over pitch in the sequencer.

    It's version 1.1 so no one knows what they are cooking for V1.5 etc.

    Thank you.

    Sorry one more question! Does the sequencer have multiple patterns? And if it does can you switch those patterns by midi note data? Like Hammerhead or Drum Computer (C-3 for pattern 1, C#-3 for pattern 2 etc)?

    Not that I've seen. Personally I use an external sequencer (Pattern Region in Logic) when ever I can...

    Thank you.

    Shame. I always like to use an app's built-in sequencer when I can. Think I'll skip this one then...

    After a bit of playing with it I'd say that the sequencer is a bit of a novelty feature on iOS with too many limitations to be really useful, at least for me. That said, the sound alone is worth the price of admission. I can't wait to wire it up to the various drum sequencers in my collection and see what I can cook up.

  • This was the one I've been most excited for. Downloaded it last night, and was up till the early morning jamming with it.
    Love it!

  • BTW I don't know if it's shown up in this thread, but from what I can see, every control in the app is available for mapping as an AU parameter. Throw a couple dozen LFOs at it and go nuts!

  • I'm a bit slow with sequencers in iOS, but with an all like Tekno that has their own sequencer, how do you output that into a midi region?

  • @mjm1138 said:
    BTW I don't know if it's shown up in this thread, but from what I can see, every control in the app is available for mapping as an AU parameter. Throw a couple dozen LFOs at it and go nuts!

    That was one of the more 'fun' exercises I did trying to crash Tekno during beta but it stayed up and running :sunglasses:
    (If I recall correctly I had ~20 LFOs running in a Mela Midi AUv3 sending unique Midi CCs mapped to AUParamaters in AUM)

    One thing that is also worth exploring is how the sounds react to note-on velocity, lots of variation even on the basic sounds.

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  • edited January 8

    Setting Tekno up with two instances of Octachron and iZope Trash is fun

    My substitute for a lack of Battalion in my life and the inscrutability of its controls (aside from the synth engines) when I played with the beta(s)

    PS not bagging on Battalion.

  • If I stop and then restart Tekno’s sequencer using AUM’s transport, ANY drum that’s programmed to play on the 1st step, doesn’t sound until the sequence comes back around on its first repeat.. anyone else experience this?

  • wimwim
    edited January 9

    @maxxpower18 said:
    I'm a bit slow with sequencers in iOS, but with an all like Tekno that has their own sequencer, how do you output that into a midi region?

    Tekno doesn't have midi out yet, so that isn't possible at this time. It's planned for the future.

    https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/comment/1448341/#Comment_1448341

  • @wim said:

    @maxxpower18 said:
    I'm a bit slow with sequencers in iOS, but with an all like Tekno that has their own sequencer, how do you output that into a midi region?

    Tekno doesn't have midi out yet, so that isn't possible at this time. It's planned for the future.

    https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/comment/1448341/#Comment_1448341

    Thank you sir. So the sequencer in Tekno in its current form is good for trying out ideas only correct?

  • wimwim
    edited January 9

    @maxxpower18 said:

    @wim said:

    @maxxpower18 said:
    I'm a bit slow with sequencers in iOS, but with an all like Tekno that has their own sequencer, how do you output that into a midi region?

    Tekno doesn't have midi out yet, so that isn't possible at this time. It's planned for the future.

    https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/comment/1448341/#Comment_1448341

    Thank you sir. So the sequencer in Tekno in its current form is good for trying out ideas only correct?

    I wouldn't say that. You can still render the audio Tekno puts out.

  • Gotcha, thanks.

  • @Samu said:

    As far as I can see there is no per step pitch option in the sequencer but velocity and some other options are randomized.

    Ah ok, that’s a shame.

    @tristan said:

    @Samu said:

    @oldsynthguy said:
    Does the randomiser in the sequencer randomise settings in individual steps (e.g. pitch, velocity etc.) as well as just the number and position of step triggers?

    Cheers!

    As far as I can see there is no per step pitch option in the sequencer but velocity and some other options are randomized.

    That's correct. Per step pitch will be a 2.0 thing!

    Good to hear. Is the pitch parameter available for external sequencers to modify?

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