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KQ Tixie by Ryouta Kira (Released)

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  • edited June 19

    @wim said:
    OK, so I'm up for getting this even if I don't end up using it much. But I'm really curious why I would use it when I already have KQ Dixie.

    Any thoughts?

    Dixie is just DX7, 6op FM. This is different 4op synths. This has FB01, only sine waves like DX7 but 4 operators only. This also emulates TX81Z, 4op as well, but has different FM waveforms not just sines.

    And other variations that I need to try.

  • @auxmux said:

    @wim said:
    OK, so I'm up for getting this even if I don't end up using it much. But I'm really curious why I would use it when I already have KQ Dixie.

    Any thoughts?

    Dixie is just DX7, 6op FM. This is different 4op synths. This has FB01, only sine waves like DX7 but 4 operators only. This also emulates TX81Z, 4op as well, but has different FM waveforms not just sines.

    And other variations that I need to try.

    Does this have the TX81z’s waveforms?

  • edited June 19

    Great app @RyoutaKira! Love the easy layering and V50 performance patches work well.

    I think I found a bug. In standalone and as AUv3 the audio mutes when I’m dragging up/down to edit the polyphony. Changing presets don’t resolve the problem, only a restart. Tapping the polyphony button and changing it with the + and - works perfectly.

    And also, the presets made in AUv3 don’t show up in the standalone version. I enables iCloud sync and after that all presets are gone

  • @Samu said:

    @busker said:
    Can it do Lately Bass?

    Yes it can, Mono Bass and Solid Bass too :sunglasses:

    Got the explanation for the added ‘safe’ AUv3 for GarbageBand but I do wish I could just hide it…
    Ie. Only show KQ Tixie and/or KQ Tixie (GB).

    @espiegel123 said:

    @auxmux said:

    @wim said:
    OK, so I'm up for getting this even if I don't end up using it much. But I'm really curious why I would use it when I already have KQ Dixie.

    Any thoughts?

    Dixie is just DX7, 6op FM. This is different 4op synths. This has FB01, only sine waves like DX7 but 4 operators only. This also emulates TX81Z, 4op as well, but has different FM waveforms not just sines.

    And other variations that I need to try.

    Does this have the TX81z’s waveforms?

    I would hope so if it's emulating and importing TX81Z sysex. I haven't tried this myself yet.

  • @wim said:
    OK, so I'm up for getting this even if I don't end up using it much. But I'm really curious why I would use it when I already have KQ Dixie.

    Any thoughts?

    Dixie is only sine waves, of course. Dixie isn't MPE. For me, these are the two giant reasons to get Tixie.

  • edited June 20

    @Jer4 said:
    Great app @RyoutaKira! Love the easy layering and V50 performance patches work well.

    I think I found a bug. In standalone and as AUv3 the audio mutes when I’m dragging up/down to edit the polyphony. Changing presets don’t resolve the problem, only a restart. Tapping the polyphony button and changing it with the + and - works perfectly.

    Thank you for reporting. This bug occurs in the version 1.1. Changes bring bugs :P
    Changing "Master Volume" may fix the muting.

  • @RyoutaKira said:

    @Jer4 said:
    Great app @RyoutaKira! Love the easy layering and V50 performance patches work well.

    I think I found a bug. In standalone and as AUv3 the audio mutes when I’m dragging up/down to edit the polyphony. Changing presets don’t resolve the problem, only a restart. Tapping the polyphony button and changing it with the + and - works perfectly.

    Thank you for reporting. This bug occurs in the version 1.1. Changes bring bugs :P

    I can imagine! Happy to help finding them. I also found out presets made in the AUv3 don’t show up in standalone. And I tried the iCloud function, but presets seem to disappear after enabling it.

  • @auxmux said:

    @Samu said:

    @busker said:
    Can it do Lately Bass?

    Yes it can, Mono Bass and Solid Bass too :sunglasses:

    Got the explanation for the added ‘safe’ AUv3 for GarbageBand but I do wish I could just hide it…
    Ie. Only show KQ Tixie and/or KQ Tixie (GB).

    @espiegel123 said:

    @auxmux said:

    @wim said:
    OK, so I'm up for getting this even if I don't end up using it much. But I'm really curious why I would use it when I already have KQ Dixie.

    Any thoughts?

    Dixie is just DX7, 6op FM. This is different 4op synths. This has FB01, only sine waves like DX7 but 4 operators only. This also emulates TX81Z, 4op as well, but has different FM waveforms not just sines.

    And other variations that I need to try.

    Does this have the TX81z’s waveforms?

    I would hope so if it's emulating and importing TX81Z sysex. I haven't tried this myself yet.

    There is a "Lately Bass" sound in the KQ Tixie presets. I am not sure that sound is same as TX81Z's.
    The app can load SysEx for TX81Z. Perfectly same sounds if you choose options correctly.

  • @Jer4 said:

    @RyoutaKira said:

    @Jer4 said:
    Great app @RyoutaKira! Love the easy layering and V50 performance patches work well.

    I think I found a bug. In standalone and as AUv3 the audio mutes when I’m dragging up/down to edit the polyphony. Changing presets don’t resolve the problem, only a restart. Tapping the polyphony button and changing it with the + and - works perfectly.

    Thank you for reporting. This bug occurs in the version 1.1. Changes bring bugs :P

    I can imagine! Happy to help finding them. I also found out presets made in the AUv3 don’t show up in standalone. And I tried the iCloud function, but presets seem to disappear after enabling it.

    I have not confirmed the iCloud issue yet.

    There are two options when you enable iCloud. "Copy from iCloud to Local" and "Copy from Local to iCloud". The local will be lost when you choose the first option. The iCloud will be lost when you choose the latter option.
    I will change the word to "Replace Local with iCloud".

  • @RyoutaKira said:

    @Jer4 said:

    @RyoutaKira said:

    @Jer4 said:
    Great app @RyoutaKira! Love the easy layering and V50 performance patches work well.

    I think I found a bug. In standalone and as AUv3 the audio mutes when I’m dragging up/down to edit the polyphony. Changing presets don’t resolve the problem, only a restart. Tapping the polyphony button and changing it with the + and - works perfectly.

    Thank you for reporting. This bug occurs in the version 1.1. Changes bring bugs :P

    I can imagine! Happy to help finding them. I also found out presets made in the AUv3 don’t show up in standalone. And I tried the iCloud function, but presets seem to disappear after enabling it.

    I have not confirmed the iCloud issue yet.

    There are two options when you enable iCloud. "Copy from iCloud to Local" and "Copy from Local to iCloud". The local will be lost when you choose the first option. The iCloud will be lost when you choose the latter option.
    I will change the word to "Replace Local with iCloud".

    Ah, I probably choose the wrong one then. I’m not seeing the app folder (neither on my iPad and iCloud), is it hidden for the user? KQ Dixie and Sampei are both there.

  • That UI :#

  • @Jer4 said:

    @RyoutaKira said:

    @Jer4 said:

    @RyoutaKira said:

    @Jer4 said:
    Great app @RyoutaKira! Love the easy layering and V50 performance patches work well.

    I think I found a bug. In standalone and as AUv3 the audio mutes when I’m dragging up/down to edit the polyphony. Changing presets don’t resolve the problem, only a restart. Tapping the polyphony button and changing it with the + and - works perfectly.

    Thank you for reporting. This bug occurs in the version 1.1. Changes bring bugs :P

    I can imagine! Happy to help finding them. I also found out presets made in the AUv3 don’t show up in standalone. And I tried the iCloud function, but presets seem to disappear after enabling it.

    I have not confirmed the iCloud issue yet.

    There are two options when you enable iCloud. "Copy from iCloud to Local" and "Copy from Local to iCloud". The local will be lost when you choose the first option. The iCloud will be lost when you choose the latter option.
    I will change the word to "Replace Local with iCloud".

    Ah, I probably choose the wrong one then. I’m not seeing the app folder (neither on my iPad and iCloud), is it hidden for the user? KQ Dixie and Sampei are both there.

    Yes, the folder is hidden for users.

  • I actually like how the editing is on this, Sometimes changing all opps at once, but usually one by one. IT has seemed nice so far. As an fm novice I enjoy trying different programming ways. I have a feeling this doesn't eat cpu as his other apps are ace in that regard. Cheers yawl fm weirdos!

  • Quick tip - If you start from scratch with one instrument want to layer multiple instruments (L2-L8), you have to change the polyphony (Poly) on the additional layers to 1 or higher as it appears to default to zero, meaning no sound. Maybe this is obvious but it took me a bit to figure out why only only L1 was playing.

  • edited June 20

    @EdZAB said:
    Quick tip - If you start from scratch with one instrument want to layer multiple instruments (L2-L8), you have to change the polyphony (Poly) on the additional layers to 1 or higher as it appears to default to zero, meaning no sound. Maybe this is obvious but it took me a bit to figure out why only only L1 was playing.

    Thanks. Yeah I was confused about that as well.

    Edit: well, now I'm not getting any sound at all. I must not be smart enough for this app.

    I can see the signal (MIDI) hitting these two layers, (the little colored meters on the left) but I'm getting zero sound. What am I doing wrong?

  • @Robin2 said:
    So, does anyone care to do a simple Tixie vs Dixie feature comparison? Which is most feature-rich?

    Does Tixie have multi-out, for example?

    Just bumping my own question: does Tixie have multi out?

  • @Robin2 said:

    @Robin2 said:
    So, does anyone care to do a simple Tixie vs Dixie feature comparison? Which is most feature-rich?

    Does Tixie have multi-out, for example?

    Just bumping my own question: does Tixie have multi out?

    Doesn't have multi out

  • wimwim
    edited June 20

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @EdZAB said:
    Quick tip - If you start from scratch with one instrument want to layer multiple instruments (L2-L8), you have to change the polyphony (Poly) on the additional layers to 1 or higher as it appears to default to zero, meaning no sound. Maybe this is obvious but it took me a bit to figure out why only only L1 was playing.

    Thanks. Yeah I was confused about that as well.

    Edit: well, now I'm not getting any sound at all. I must not be smart enough for this app.

    I can see the signal (MIDI) hitting these two layers, (the little colored meters on the left) but I'm getting zero sound. What am I doing wrong?

    This is baffling me too. As soon as I add a layer and set the polyphony, I lose all sound and can't get it back until restarting the app.

    I tried in the plugin version and was able, once, to add another layer, but then it stopped working on later tries.

  • @wim said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @EdZAB said:
    Quick tip - If you start from scratch with one instrument want to layer multiple instruments (L2-L8), you have to change the polyphony (Poly) on the additional layers to 1 or higher as it appears to default to zero, meaning no sound. Maybe this is obvious but it took me a bit to figure out why only only L1 was playing.

    Thanks. Yeah I was confused about that as well.

    Edit: well, now I'm not getting any sound at all. I must not be smart enough for this app.

    I can see the signal (MIDI) hitting these two layers, (the little colored meters on the left) but I'm getting zero sound. What am I doing wrong?

    This is baffling me too. As soon as I add a layer and set the polyphony, I lose all sound and can't get it back until restarting the app.

    I tried in the plugin version and was able, once, to add another layer, but then it stopped working on later tries.

    The dev said it was a bug, so hopefully an update resolves that! You can do it now by tapping once and use the + and - button (instead of dragging the polyphony up and down)

  • @Jer4 said:

    @wim said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @EdZAB said:
    Quick tip - If you start from scratch with one instrument want to layer multiple instruments (L2-L8), you have to change the polyphony (Poly) on the additional layers to 1 or higher as it appears to default to zero, meaning no sound. Maybe this is obvious but it took me a bit to figure out why only only L1 was playing.

    Thanks. Yeah I was confused about that as well.

    Edit: well, now I'm not getting any sound at all. I must not be smart enough for this app.

    I can see the signal (MIDI) hitting these two layers, (the little colored meters on the left) but I'm getting zero sound. What am I doing wrong?

    This is baffling me too. As soon as I add a layer and set the polyphony, I lose all sound and can't get it back until restarting the app.

    I tried in the plugin version and was able, once, to add another layer, but then it stopped working on later tries.

    The dev said it was a bug, so hopefully an update resolves that! You can do it now by tapping once and use the + and - button (instead of dragging the polyphony up and down)

    Thanks, yeah, that works.

  • @Gavinski said:

    @Robin2 said:

    @Robin2 said:
    So, does anyone care to do a simple Tixie vs Dixie feature comparison? Which is most feature-rich?

    Does Tixie have multi-out, for example?

    Just bumping my own question: does Tixie have multi out?

    Doesn't have multi out

    Thanks @Gavinski.

  • @wim said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @EdZAB said:
    Quick tip - If you start from scratch with one instrument want to layer multiple instruments (L2-L8), you have to change the polyphony (Poly) on the additional layers to 1 or higher as it appears to default to zero, meaning no sound. Maybe this is obvious but it took me a bit to figure out why only only L1 was playing.

    Thanks. Yeah I was confused about that as well.

    Edit: well, now I'm not getting any sound at all. I must not be smart enough for this app.

    I can see the signal (MIDI) hitting these two layers, (the little colored meters on the left) but I'm getting zero sound. What am I doing wrong?

    This is baffling me too. As soon as I add a layer and set the polyphony, I lose all sound and can't get it back until restarting the app.

    I tried in the plugin version and was able, once, to add another layer, but then it stopped working on later tries.

    Oh, well I'm glad it wasn't just me.

  • @Samu said:
    I did find a draft-manual for this but is has no mention if the additional waveforms present on the TX81z are supported?!
    https://www.kiraqtech.jp/blog/kq-tixie/kq-tixie-manual/

    it has eight waveforms according to the app store

  • edited June 21

    @wim said:
    OK, so I'm up for getting this even if I don't end up using it much. But I'm really curious why I would use it when I already have KQ Dixie.

    Any thoughts?

    you have eight wave forms a la dx 100

  • KQ Dixie = Dx 7 = 6 operator / 32 Algorithm FM

    KQ Tixie = DX 100 / FB 01 / Tx81z = 4 OP FM / 8 Algs

    https://gearspace.com/board/electronic-music-instruments-and-electronic-music-production/1348073-tx-81z-lately-bass-vs-dx7.html

  • wimwim
    edited June 22

    Thanks everyone. I have the app now and like it - as I knew I would. It seems a little quicker to get things done in than Dixie.

  • @panthera86 said:
    KQ Dixie = Dx 7 = 6 operator / 32 Algorithm FM

    KQ Tixie = DX 100 / FB 01 / Tx81z = 4 OP FM / 8 Algs

    https://gearspace.com/board/electronic-music-instruments-and-electronic-music-production/1348073-tx-81z-lately-bass-vs-dx7.html

    In love FM synthesis but I certainly don’t claim to understand the intricacies involved in it. Sorry to get all Spinal Tap about it, but isn’t 6 operators, like, 2 better than 4? Isn’t 32 algorithms 24 better than 8? (Not trying to detract or imply criticism of either app, just curious.).

  • @Robin2 said:

    @panthera86 said:
    KQ Dixie = Dx 7 = 6 operator / 32 Algorithm FM

    KQ Tixie = DX 100 / FB 01 / Tx81z = 4 OP FM / 8 Algs

    https://gearspace.com/board/electronic-music-instruments-and-electronic-music-production/1348073-tx-81z-lately-bass-vs-dx7.html

    In love FM synthesis but I certainly don’t claim to understand the intricacies involved in it. Sorry to get all Spinal Tap about it, but isn’t 6 operators, like, 2 better than 4? Isn’t 32 algorithms 24 better than 8? (Not trying to detract or imply criticism of either app, just curious.).

    Dixie only has sine waveforms, so that would mean Tixie, which has others, has an advantage in that regard. Having fewer operators might make it easier to program, which might be seen as an advantage. Tixie is also mpe (though I don't know how good the implementation is) while Dixie isn't. The UIs are different, maybe Tixie is easier to program in that regard (I don't know, haven't used Dixie in a long time and haven't compared them, just worth mentioning that UI plays a huge part). UI/UX on both of these might not be regarded as overly accessible by the average user tbh.

  • @Gavinski said:

    @Robin2 said:

    @panthera86 said:
    KQ Dixie = Dx 7 = 6 operator / 32 Algorithm FM

    KQ Tixie = DX 100 / FB 01 / Tx81z = 4 OP FM / 8 Algs

    https://gearspace.com/board/electronic-music-instruments-and-electronic-music-production/1348073-tx-81z-lately-bass-vs-dx7.html

    In love FM synthesis but I certainly don’t claim to understand the intricacies involved in it. Sorry to get all Spinal Tap about it, but isn’t 6 operators, like, 2 better than 4? Isn’t 32 algorithms 24 better than 8? (Not trying to detract or imply criticism of either app, just curious.).

    Dixie only has sine waveforms, so that would mean Tixie, which has others, has an advantage in that regard. Having fewer operators might make it easier to program, which might be seen as an advantage. Tixie is also mpe (though I don't know how good the implementation is) while Dixie isn't. The UIs are different, maybe Tixie is easier to program in that regard (I don't know, haven't used Dixie in a long time and haven't compared them, just worth mentioning that UI plays a huge part). UI/UX on both of these might not be regarded as overly accessible by the average user tbh.

    Thanks @Gavinski, really appreciate that. Easier to program is a very good point which hadn’t occurred to me and yes, of course, UI does make a real difference. Cheers.

  • @Robin2 said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Robin2 said:

    @panthera86 said:
    KQ Dixie = Dx 7 = 6 operator / 32 Algorithm FM

    KQ Tixie = DX 100 / FB 01 / Tx81z = 4 OP FM / 8 Algs

    https://gearspace.com/board/electronic-music-instruments-and-electronic-music-production/1348073-tx-81z-lately-bass-vs-dx7.html

    In love FM synthesis but I certainly don’t claim to understand the intricacies involved in it. Sorry to get all Spinal Tap about it, but isn’t 6 operators, like, 2 better than 4? Isn’t 32 algorithms 24 better than 8? (Not trying to detract or imply criticism of either app, just curious.).

    Dixie only has sine waveforms, so that would mean Tixie, which has others, has an advantage in that regard. Having fewer operators might make it easier to program, which might be seen as an advantage. Tixie is also mpe (though I don't know how good the implementation is) while Dixie isn't. The UIs are different, maybe Tixie is easier to program in that regard (I don't know, haven't used Dixie in a long time and haven't compared them, just worth mentioning that UI plays a huge part). UI/UX on both of these might not be regarded as overly accessible by the average user tbh.

    Thanks @Gavinski, really appreciate that. Easier to program is a very good point which hadn’t occurred to me and yes, of course, UI does make a real difference. Cheers.

    More operators is of course more powerful, but what those operators can do also matters. OG DX7 FM can only generate harmonics through FM between operators, operator feedback (1-op per algorithm iirc) and additive (mixing ops). The key difference of the other waveforms in later 4-op is for operators to start out with harmonics. So, rich sounds need less operators.

    FWIW my favourite UI/UX for FM is Bleass Omega, but it’s only 4-op with sines and 1 feedback (aka gimped 6-op, like the earlier Yamaha 4-op models)

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