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imini update now available........at last

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  • @Littlewoodg said:

    @dwarman said:

    iMini Virtual MIDI in Port still not working. Which continues to make iMini useless in a MidiBridge or MidiFlow routing environment. Even with the (long awaited) channel selector. Why do they have increment only though ??? Same silly thing as iProphet. Which has the same broken VM In Port.

    For iMini in AB (I'm using BM2 or MTS) The trick is to open FreEWI, then Midibridge (from inside FrEWI),
    Then u have to open iMini before AB for it to appear in AB
    Then open BM2 in AB, then iMini
    This is what needed doing pre this update, no difference after, at least with BM2 and MTS. Cubasis didn't need the rigamarole because u can select "virtual midi" in that daw

    As for the crunchy sounding patches, I've found these in many pads, and gotten some relief in airplane mode, with iMini's poly off

    I have that working without the need for midibus! If I have FreEWI running I can control iMini from BM2 keyboard. Still on ios 7.0.2 and have not updated iMini yet.

  • Yeh, I know the tricks, but more than one synth need that trick and FreEWI only services one. You can do the same trick using MidiBridge to set Network MIDI to 127.0.0.1, and connecting to MidiBridge itself is supposed to work too but I've not had much success there the few times I tried that.

    But tricks should not be necessary. iMini et al publish their VM In ports, BM2 publishes its VM Out port, they should not be shipped not working. And, most especially., some attention should have been paid after over a year of complaining about these things. To them and the groups.

  • I like the update apart from that the IAA Transport Panel is still hiding behind the connect panel when in almost every other iOS music app that support IAA it's on the main screen for quick access...

    The other Retronyms Arturia Port iProphet has it on main screen and even their own synth Phase84 has it there too, so why hide it behind connect panel in iMini?!?!?

  • edited January 2015

    @xen said:

    To be fair, I haven't done a lot with the presets. I made myself an 'Initial' patch when I first got it and start from there each time. Typically I follow the 'take two saw waves and detune them' approach - adjusting envelopes, chorus and delay to suit the track.

    I had another go with it last night, and if I keep things pretty basic it doesn't sound too bad - nothing like a real Mini Moog, but still big and warm. As soon as I push things a bit though it falls apart - and pretty much all of the pad presets break up for me. I think your approach is a really good one - I should be able to use it if I set things up myself.

  • Am I to believe that I am the only one having the issue of the iMini MOD wheel not working from a MIDI controller keyboard? Has anyone else tried it to see if it works? I tested a bunch of different patches and it wouldn't work on any I tried. Is there perhaps a setting that I am missing somewhere? Thanks.
    - David

  • I tested it the other night with my irig keys, the mod wheel works but the mod wheel on screen doesn't move.

    Also, I am noticing the distortion mentioned earlier in the thread. Since it's been a while since I've used imini I can't remember if it was any different before. It wasn't related to the output volume of the iPad itself or the master volume of imini. It's possible I had programmed some saturation into the patch but I couldn't find where I may have done that.

    On the good news front, I could not get a note to stick and it seems to respond to the keyboard much better now.

    So, the "bellweather" conclusion is that it is seeming much more reliable but now quite possibly no longer sounds good.

    In other news, iSEM continued to work perfectly.

  • Ok, so I've not updated yet and just had a play around with some of the presets - I'm not hearing anything that seems to match the descriptions of the problems - but there are a lot of patches and I've just dip tested a few.

    @monzo - you said 'still' sounds distorted? So an non-updated version should be able to replicate the problem. Can you post the names of some of the worst offenders?

  • R_2R_2
    edited January 2015

    I've also experienced distortion/clipping on many presets (most noticeable on presets with filter closed a bit). I hear it best with headphones (direct from iPad). Same as in previous version.

    On some presets volume has to be turned to 4 or less for the clipping to disappear.

    Overall I think iMini is louder than other synths. I also hear it with a few presets in iProphet, perhaps a Retronyms thing.

  • @mrufino1 said:

    So, the "bellweather" conclusion is that it is seeming much more reliable but now quite possibly no longer sounds good.

    Also a horribly accurate description of middle-age Mister Bellweather...YMMV.

  • No distortion on headphones for me. That's using a pair of AKG headphones with (I think) a high impedance. Plenty of distortion on the iPad's weeny speakers. Tried a pair of louder headphones, and found it possible to overdrive those. Agree with @R_2 that it must be a loud synth compared to other apps.

  • ^ Headphones I checked on are BeyerDynamic DT990 Pro (250 ohms).

    Turning down iPad's main volume doesn't remove the clipping. Only iMini's own volume knob affects it.

  • @R_2 said:

    On some presets volume has to be turned to 4 or less for the clipping to disappear.

    I've experienced this too when using iMini with external USB-Audio devices.
    But if i play iMini thru AudioShare as IAA-Instrument using the same USB-Audio device there is no distortion!?

    Also there is no distortion when using Headphones directly on the iPad...

  • @xen said:

    Ok, so I've not updated yet and just had a play around with some of the presets - I'm not hearing anything that seems to match the descriptions of the problems - but there are a lot of patches and I've just dip tested a few.

    @monzo - you said 'still' sounds distorted? So an non-updated version should be able to replicate the problem. Can you post the names of some of the worst offenders?

    I'll have a go in a bit - sounds like a few others are noticing it too though.

  • The distortion I was hearing was definitely internal to imini, not further down the chain. I noticed it more on my own patches though (I think) so I'm going to check my levels throughout imini first. It wasn't distortion as much as patches having a fuzzy and fizzy sound- it was subtle. But again, I haven't really used imini much in a long time because it wasn't reliable. Even with the different developers being a possible factor, iSEM is very different than imini so it wouldn't be surprising that they sound different as well.

  • edited January 2015

    First preset I tried M_H_Coffee_Strings sounds awful. M H Ministring, same. First couple of pads I've tried: CD Want. C D Shano1 all have a nasty distorted edge on the swells. Probably easier to list the ones that don't sound crap! Some sound better when the volume's turned right down, some still distort. Played standalone through iPhone 6 earphones. It's worth noting this is the only synth on my iPad to sound this bad.

    I think I'm going to delete this, like the iMPC Pro it doesn't look like a fix is on the cards.

    I think it's safe to say I won't touch another Retronyms app again - the two worst apps I bought last year were their creations.

  • damn, my inner grammar nazi is acting up - heard "bellweather" too many times. It's "bellwether". A Wether is a sheep. The Bellwether is the sheep that all the other sheep follow, so the shepherd puts a bell on it.

    /rant

  • edited January 2015

    I'm sorry Mister @dwarman you're only half right.

    While a 'bellwether' is indeed a sheep thingie as you mention, a 'bellweather' is a scrotal implant of a sizable metal sphere (known as the bell) which contracts or expands depending on the temperature and causes the wearer to moan in pain, the moans varying in tone and pitch dependent on the amount of swelling experienced.

    It is a very painful but dependable device. And thus a bellweather is someone who goes out and braves the elements on our behalf without need of coming back to report for we will hear him soon enough etc.

    (More info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bollocks#Bollocks_.28transitive_verb.29)

  • It's also a pad preset on the iMini: M_H_Bellweather_Strings. Sounds like a goat being subjected to severe scrotal bloatings, though to be fair so do most of their other patches.

  • edited January 2015

    Bollocks to you! A bellweather is really a new series of hype videos, I mean app, that the same company has created. It has no sound output to it's synth however, because they are trying to understand , despite many customer emails, why the heck any musician would want to hear the music they are playing. Then, the bellweather, or bellwether, leading all the rest, posted the request via Facebook, at which point said company said ,"Oh, I see now since it was posted to Facebook. We'll add it to our list." Coming soon in 2019 then, since we've moved on. Daily videos teasing one feature at a time to start tomorrow however.

    ;-)

  • But seriously, I'll check it out more tonight.

  • @monzo - I just tried with some cleaner headphones and moved the keyboard up a couple of octaves - yeah, I can hear what you mean on the pads/strings presets.

    As I mentioned above, I've just been using it for bass and never really played around with the other sounds. For me, its found a useful place in what I do and for the sounds I want out of it, the edge isn't noticeable - but if I was after lush strings and evolving pads I would be looking elsewhere.

  • oops. hijacked. never mind....

  • This is bogus!

    Regarding the MOD wheel not working from a MIDI controller, Jerome from Arturia informed me:

    This bug is now referenced; our Technical Support Manager is going to contact Retronym (company in charge of developing iMini).

    We currently don't have a release date for this bug fix, but I'll come back to you once I've more information about this matter.

    Please, accept our sincere apologies for the inconvenience caused.

    Best regards,

    Jerome

  • Good to know @Pianokey88 - thanks.

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