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I love what you do NoiseHorse.
@Ben I really do appreciate your nice comments. I've still got horrible confidence problems, especially releasing stuff to this audiobus audience, because so many of you are tech-savvy super experienced smooth sounding artists. It's nice nowadays that audiobus music allows total amateurs to put out stuff with high quality apps so even people like me can sound okay. Thanks again!
Haven't forgotten about this. When's the deadline then?
I like a good deadline
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March the first is the "official" deadline. If you post a few days late it's not the end of the world though...
Still not certain about meeting the deadline (I will meet the deadline), but this has been a good trick for the mind. Have created more of greater depth (whether good, bad or indifferent
in pursuit of this project. I have also been thinking more about structure, but even more so meaning and content. All sounds a bit fussy, but I don't mean it like. I guess it's made me think in terms of what songs are. To me anyway.
More than anything (and there's the deadline effect) I realize my challenge is with calling time on a piece, and thus this has been a good exercise in terms of helping focus. However, it has in other ways reminded me why I've always been a subscriber to Da Vinci's old dictum that 'Art is never finished, only abandoned....'
I'll definitely meet the deadline, this month anyway, but the biggest benefit for me was to just get something done, rather than noodling and jamming and thinking "this idea might work as song... one of these days..."
Show off
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"I realize my challenge is with calling time on a piece"
Exactly mine too. I have about 8 tracks that I "haven't quite finished yet".
I'm going to give one a quick master and post it on this thread and then hopefully people can tell me if they think the part of it think isn't finished does indeed need more work or not. Normally this is either drums or vocal samples (ie. the tricky but very important bits).
By the way Johnny, you spelt "realise" wrong
He's gone native...
You say tomato etc.
As mentioned before, I do think one of the benefits of pressing the post button is the element of clarity you can then almost immediately hear you own stuff with, which eludes the ears before sharing it.
OK, so here's this month's contribution.
I did actually create this one all this month. It's not from the 'back catalogue'.
The Ariah Noetzel vocal sample is from the wonderful Converse Rubber Tracks site that says everything is royalty free, no strings attached... so I took them at their word...
www.conversesamplelibrary.com/
Most sounds you hear are made in Gadget since that's where I put the whole thing together. I did run it through Audio Mastering at the end though.
I messed with the vocal sample quite a bit in Dedalus to get that crazy panned delay you hear.
And the slide guitar is from Thumbjam.
Feedback most appreciated as always.
Mr._Fletcher_2000 I really think that was fantastic! Brilliant use of various parts crafted together (slide guitar fit in perfectly). Ariah Noetzel should feel flattered to be the focal point of this track. You made her sound great with your accompaniment. Pat yourself on the back.
Loved all the pieces, wanted more narrative shape, says he in his poncey way knowing full well that this is his own crucial weakness probably projected on to poor Matt but secretly saying to himself well, what does he expect, flouncing in here with Ariah with a few days left in the month still and not a child in the house washed....
As requested by @johnnygoodyear (so blame him!), my February gadget track, exported to auria and given a quick mix on earbuds. A DJ I'm not, but this is way better than my edm attempts a few years ago.
(I love that gadget auto name feature- being a social worker it's a good title)
Exorcist. Omen. Heat. Manhunter. Warriors. Schizoid indeed
And that's just my free association in the first 90 seconds....
@mrufino dangit another winner on this thread! Alright I'm going to have to re-download Gadget and ditch the hillbilly guitar. :-(
Thanks guys. Comments most appreciated.
I realise that I've been bad and not commented on the last couple of tracks, although I listened when they were posted and had some thoughts.
@richardyot I think your latest one is such a massive leap forward. It sounds really well constructed and your voice sounds much more in tune. I liked it. I look forward to the next one.
@noisehorse I loved your track. Very funny. For some strange reason it reminded me of the Smiths! Post another!
@mrufino1 I need to listen to yours later today!
Matt: flawless production - my main comment is that your track could do with more excitement somehow, maybe there is too much focus on the vocal sample, whereas the wobble bass that comes in at 2.20 is actually one of the best parts of the track - maybe more could be made with it, as a hook that the song and vocals are built around. The track needs to build up to something - it doesn't lack dynamics, but maybe it lacks direction, or as Johnny says narrative.
So the elements and mix are all there, and I think there is the potential for a great song, but the arrangement could still be better IMO.
mrufino (or Mark I think your name is): I really like the sequenced melody that comes in at the start and forms the backbone of the song, it's a genuinely good tune/hook to base the track around. All the sound engineering is also very good, and the way the track builds up with the gradual introduction of instruments and then breaks apart at the 4 minute mark also works. I like the siren-like synth sound at that point too, and the bassline that goes with it.
The only crit I can really make is that it's not particularly innovative, it's very much a genre based tune (I had friends making less competent tunes of this sort back in the early 90s), but then again that's obviously the hardest bit, and really just goes to say that there isn't much to criticise really
The only other niggle is that when the melody is re-introduced I am less fond of the synth patch on the second round, I preferred the more chimey sound in the first part of the track.
@richardyot, Cool, thanks. This is not really the type of music I normally make, so it's definitely genre based with all of the cliches! I'm finally learning how to get that "rolling bass" sound and have it pump with the kick. If you, or anyone, has arrangement ideas, etc, lay them on me , I'm always up for learning and making it better. However, I don't think my future is in EDM!
Thanks for taking the time to listen, I hadn't really checked out this thread, I have to go through it to hear some tunes. If anyone can improve this by the way and you want the gadget project file just let me know.
So, to count as a song of the month entry, I need to post my February track here as well as Creations?
@AlterEgo_UK. for some reason your post is repeatedly crashing safari on my ipad air. I'm not sure why, maybe it's the graphics in the post? Anyway, I'd love to listen but as soon as I press play safari disappears.
All you guys jumping in early. Have you never heard of the phrase Johnny-come-lately?
Harumph.
Right. @mrufino1
I've had a listen.
Production wise it's pretty damn great isn't it? Sounds totally top notch commercial. It's indistinguishable from any number of similar commercial trance tracks you'd hear on a trance compilation or whatever.
Getting that level of sound quality out of gadget (I assume it's 100% gadget synths?) is pretty damn impressive. Even via Auria.
I must confess to being rather bored by standard trance music and you say it's not really your thing either. But as excercise in trying to nail a genre I think you scored 100%.
I think the trance genre might be, if any, the most suited to gadget 'out of the box'. I could definitely hear the Chaing Mai bells, the Brussels super saw and the Berlin squeaky lead (and then them all in for the finale).
Actually the most impressive bit is the drums and the rolling bass which don't come like that out of the box at all and I'm interested in what you did and what you used.
Great job.
Thanks for your feedback Johnny and Richard.
You are quite right that the track probably needs more structure / variation / climax / journey.
I'm glad you like the kind of bridge where the tone changes a bit. I think where it needs work is in the second section after you've had the vocal intro, you've had the bridge... and then what? I 'revealed' the 'he told me so' line as an attempt. But given I had limited vocal options and I used them all, I probably should have got the music to work harder in the second section. But instead I started working on another track
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The last 20% always feels like 80% of the effort doesn't it!
Anyway glad you liked the production. I feel I'm getting better on that.
I need to listen to the other submissions when I can. Good club!
@AlterEgo_UK I'd already commented on Dubai Dub, my favourite of the three, but all I can say is what amazing variety, there's definitely no shortage of ideas there, as well as ebb and flow and 3 totally different styles.
@AlterEgo_UK Just for the record: Only one certificate per customer.
My entry, so early I even had time to draw some artwork for it!
I was quite pleased with myself and then I played it to my wife, who pointed out a few flaws. She rightly called me out for being lazy and just repeating the same lyrics throughout the song. I should really have written a distinct second verse.
Any way here's my take:
The good: a small step forward in terms of songwriting and singing. I also improved my mixing skills a little, and used sidechaining to duck the guitar out of the way of the vocals, and while the pumping is audible I quite a like the call and response effect it gives between the vocals and guitar.
The bad: singing is still ropey in parts, my pitch is improving but it stills wobbles, especially at the start of songs. I also need to improve my vocal tone, somehow.
Songwriting needs to have more forward momentum, and I also think I will regret the line about the mohair as that's probably the only thing anyone will ever remember about the song.
I really didn't manage to do the sound of my guitar justice, I still need to develop the critical listening skills needed to be able to EQ an instrument properly.
So all in all I still have a lot to learn.