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What is the most DISAPPOINTING APP you bought?
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^ I agree with Mister Angry!
Looking at what I have left, everything except Caustic, Figure and Thumbjam, which I use rarely and I am sad to say that even though I bought quite a few synths, a couple of drum machines and about five(!!) DAWs, I was never really happy with the iOS workflow and most importantly I was not having fun.
What I always wanted was a way to have everything in one app, either included or pluggable and with good quality. I was waiting for the new version of Auria with MIDI and Twin2 to come, but I realised that even in the best case I was looking at freezing and unfreezing tracks all the time, struggling with file managment, MIDI for external synths, etc.
I decided to abondon all my investments, give the iPad away to a family member and move to a desktop DAW. I do regret the wasted money, but on the other hand I enjoy the flexibility and that "everything just works".
Reading Sebastian's post, I must remark that, at least in my case, regreting doesn't mean I consider that apps are a piece of cr..., simply I expected A and a get B (or "a"). In fact, I'm sure we have quite "hype" about some app's features (which sometimes dev have never promised), and later we are dissappointed in some way.
Not the same expectations from a pro musician or a music-monkey like me using an app like, for example, Cubasis.
It's actually not true at all but your comparison is still quite valid.
If you were to do a public survey, most people find internet-soapboxing to be an untrustworthy source of feedback. See Yelp, for instance.
Positive in alerting customers to making a bad purchase. If I'd known about the issues regarding certain apps then I would have saved wasting money on them. That's not to say a simple 'so and so app is rubbish' comment is useful to anyone, but a civilised discussion on the pros and cons is good info for app addicts like myself.
I don't like disagreeing with you Sebastian as Audiobus is the best app I've ever bought, and as I said above I would contact small developers with an issue first, rather than discussing an issue online.
But if you ban all constructive negative feedback from this forum it'll damage its usefulness as a reference tool for prospective purchasers. I always check here, and Doug's vids before making a purchase these days. Though I agree the title and intro to this thread is a bit heavy handed.
Do you have the contact info for the Apple Department responsible for the "suiciding" of Camel Audio and Alchemy?
@monzo the issue is your projecting your experience as an objective one for every user, which is a) not realistic, and b) not going to be the reaction that most listening to you have, because they're just as cynical as the methods you're promoting.
I worked for Apple tech support once (it's all in America, I worked in the big Austin, TX office). This reminds me of people who would call in and scream at me demanding to talk to Steve Jobs (he was still alive when I worked there).
@Sebastian I can see as the gatekeeper it's a tricky one. Your playground, your ball.
I'll take Sir John Ive's digits if you've got them.
I'm sure plenty of users would benefit from reading specific feedback such as 'this app doesn't run well on an iPad 2 due to it's heavy CPU requirements'. Nothing cynical about feedback on technical or performance issues. If I see a lot of comments like that I'll then check with the developer to see if it'll be an issue, but the forum feedback would have alerted me in the first instance.
But that's a specific criticism that already directed at a relatively small percentage of the applicable userbase. And the response will simply be that technology has moved along and the app is utilizing current capabilities therein. That is not a developer's fault...and Apple's fault is debatable (I usually don't mind Apple's hardware release schedule and find it realistic).
Reading this thread feels a little like reading AppStore reviews. +1 to closing it. Not the AppStore!
What a disappointment @CalCutta I thought in a premium company like Apple the CEO would pick up the phone.
I'm not saying it's anyone's 'fault', it's just good information for (for example) someone with an iPad 2 (me - or the 'small percentage' of hundreds of thousands of others who still use one) thinking about buying a particular app and seeing if my device will support it. Or someone with an Air2 checking if such and such works on iOS8.
Small percentages add up to large numbers when you're talking about Apps and Apple devices. And it doesn't have to be a criticism, just sharing of the pro's and con's. Like people used to do in the olden days when they spoke face to face.
I hear what you're saying and agree that the example you're using is helpful information to share on message boards like this.
Seeing as I find worth in semantics, I would be quick to point out that your example does not fall under calling an app a "disappointment" to me, and if someone used your example and then tried to claim an app was disappointing, I'd disagree with that assessment.
I think this is where people are disagreeing with you in this thread. What you're describing is specific and more in the realm of feedback than complaints. A lot of other posts in this thread, as well as the thread title in itself, go more into complaints without explanation, which is unhelpful.
edit: One other thing to point out is that app store reviews are often very helpful and more specific than info you may find here. And they're not inherently sycophantic to a developer or Apple, either.
Yeah I agree, I don't like the title, but if responses contain decent feedback on why certain apps are a disappointment then I can see it's usefulness. Maybe change the title.
No, but if you get a refund you can't add feedback, so a lot of genuine issues won't get reported.
I haven't posted personally because I thought it was a little bit negative to do so and mostly i'm of the view that the majority of app developers work huge numbers of hours for very little likely gain (relatively) trying to make these amazing music apps as good as they can possibly be... and they should be encouraged. Or more to the point I personally don't really want to discourage anyone - even a "big company" - (and if I found an app disappointing it's very possibly because I haven't spent enough time really getting it).
Plus to be honest I couldn't think of an app that was exactly the MOST DISAPPOINTING APP i've ever purchased or whatever. The title is a little bit strong I guess (with the capital letters).
However, I wouldn't close the thread if it was my message board because generally I think free speech (unless you're being outright discriminatory or threatening or extremely offensive or whatever) is a good thing and I don't think anyone has been 'out of order'. I think the ability of this forum to have this thread (maybe even tone down the title!) in a self-regulating way is a good thing about a 'grown up' forum like this one.
I think there's some useful comments in here that might be useful for developers (e.g. so many people naming apps that don't have AB or IAA - and people obviously reacting a lot to workflow or things being too complicated to get into... or too small). There's also people loving, and other people being very disappointed by, the same apps which just shows you can't please all of the people all of the time.
I think it's ok for people to post their views. And although it's better to say why they found an app disappointing, to say that 'I found x app disappointing' probably isn't something we should wipe off the forum is it? It's pretty self regulating anyway because there are plenty of users coming on and saying "please say why and be constructive" and then users are indeed coming back and giving more constructive criticism.
I'd be really interested in what any devs think about this thread.... if it should be closed or left open etc...
Honestly I don't think a single developer wants his app to be mentioned in a thread like this one. But, this is the American way. If an app truly doesn't live up to what it claims to do, then everyone should know. This way, the devs will do their best to cater to the requests as best as possible. Personally, I have no regrets for any particular app. They all have done what they say they can do. Did I wish they did more? Yeah big time, but I can't blame it as being disappointing.
All in all, I have learned to wait a bit before spending my cash. That's why I kept asking about session band. Once I got my answers, I purchased the original app, which was an awesome deal. I don't expect to make a complete song with it, but to give me a creative boost, its worth the whooping 3$ bucks I spent.
Do Everyone will have their dissapointments, but be realistic.
Maybe we start "what is the most dissapointing thread" ?
I like you guys here really. Thank's for that social network.
Mmhhh, i just answered the thread title but i don't meant it negativ in general. These days it's hard to say just what i feel in the net. Yep, sometimes it's better to say nothing (especially for me). We all know that 2 persons are enough to start a war
This audiobus forum is really big and it was more friendly in the past. But it's still one of the more flameless forums i the world.
Funny is after reading a lot of my old threads and posts a lot sound stupid and makes no sense at all. In general the forum is like a music facebook now which i left for same reasons. Not that i'm better
Seems again time to be more silent and focus on the technical side of music things.
It's just so hard for most humans (including me) to accept that every one can be right. If it's negativ or positiv.
Let's make more music with the tools we use and like......
I think a lot of these negative comments have been voiced before in threads specific to the apps. Having so many bundled in one thread tends to make the negativity stand out more. Still, I see the merit in it, particularly if it doesn't devolve into something that isn't how most members here are accustomed to.
@Cinebient at some point these days will be golden too, enjoy them while they are my friend
This is a great and friendly forum, largely self-moderated, and a place almost unique in my digital experience where by virtue of a love and interest in music a large variety of folks of different ages and persuasions for the most part hear each other out and freely share their experience.
Point taken however as regards Facebook. I will no longer post pictures of my cat.
I think people can minimize negative app experiences by visiting sites like thesoundtestroom to get a feel for what the app does. You can usually wait a few days and search for videos on the app. Having a clear idea of how you'd like to use the app and evaluating whether it's likely to pan out. Getting an app to function may involve more learning and fiddling than you're prepared to do. Many aspects of apps and their suitability can be very subjective and vary from person to person. Some apps can definitely perform differently on different devices/setups so being able to ask people these sorts of questions on forums helps. Like anything else there are no guarantees but apparently you can go through the Apple refund process.
I agree that these comments should and do appear on threads for specific apps which is how it should be. My research pre buying a particular app starts with doing a search on this forum for user comments and that is the proper place for this. I don't think in the past two years that I have been on this forum has there been such futile and meaningless opinions voiced on such a pointless thread as this.
I put the reason down to there not being any mind- boggling apps having been released during the past few days. There are so many better things to spend your time on than getting so het up on such generalised drivel.
I hope I'm not stepping on too many toes here but I'm going to close this thread. App devs have it hard enough as it is and reading this thread even made me tear up just a tiny bit. Yeah... ok, that was a lie, but I guess you understand where I'm coming from.
I have nothing against discussing a particular problem that a specific app has but please everybody - do it in a constructive manner. Ideally one annoying bug and one app at a time.
My experience is that every app dev who is worth their money sooner or later reacts positively to requests from users and most of the time they react faster if lots of users are demanding it in a friendly manner. It's really your best chance to get stuff done.
If you don't want to be burned by purchasing an app, there are numerous blogs that test everything that's new.
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