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StepPolyArp updated to 2.5

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  • I like it very much but what started off as a bit of a cold seems to have developed into almost full blown rigor mortis in the past 24 hours. Have put it to one side and will wait more or less patiently for the next update. In the meantime, B-Step has been updated and am going to go and see what's happening on that side of the sequencing street...

  • Koushion get updated too! Still havn't found AB support, but gate and velocity have steps. It seems every one wait for Modstep to come!

  • edited March 2015

    I think the gated time ( gate length ) of SPA to only 127 is not enough; compared to Midi Pattern sequencer and Koushion now. Longer gate time of each step makes sounding different. Hope SPA improving it. Just my thought?

  • I am getting so many different bugs I don't know what to report even. I have gotten it to work stand alone several times but in Cubasis it is freezing my iPad totally, I've never seen this before.

  • Has now been updated to 2.5.1
    Have done a test in Audiobus with Nave and StepPoly seems great so far :)

  • edited March 2015

    I can use AB adding synth and SPA to record audio into Cubasis. No bug found with IAA touch panel on SPA. But I do not know how to record midi note inside the SPA to Cubasis. Anyone try the midi recording? Can anyone write the detail of midi recording from SPA 2.5.1 to Cubasis.
    How about synch with Korg Gadget? Gadget synch with SPA 2.5.1 to record midi has the problem too.

  • Just make sure midi out in SPA is set to Cubasis. In Cubasis, use the virtual midi input.

  • edited March 2015

    @funjunkie27 said:
    Just make sure midi out in SPA is set to Cubasis. In Cubasis, use the virtual midi input.

    Ya! no midi notes shown on Cubasis. Have you tried it?

  • edited March 2015

    @funjunkie27 said:
    Just make sure midi out in SPA is set to Cubasis. In Cubasis, use the virtual midi input.

    Ya! I found the reason why there is no midi note recording. I have to press recording button and use Cubasis internal keyboard to record the notes from SPA. Not the SPA keyboard.

  • Yep...worked without a problem. I recorded the Cubasis track after assigning it to Elec Piano and played it back. Midi notes appear as I would expect, and playback sounded identical to the recording.

  • edited March 2015

    @funjunkie27 said:
    Yep...worked without a problem. I recorded the Cubasis track after assigning it to Elec Piano and played it back. Midi notes appear as I would expect, and playback sounded identical to the recording.

    Ya! thank you. I use Ppg wavegenerator. Ppg set the source to Cubasis and meantime set the Cubasis midi track instrument to Ppg. Then use the mod wheel and Cubasis keyboard to play the SPA. I found the SPA midi out set to PPg can also do. What a way!

    How about Korg Gadget? Can anyone record the SPA notes to Korg Gadget ?

  • I've managed to sync it to Gadget by using Loopy as the midi clock sending clock to Step poly. Step poly then has Midi out to Gadget, using Loopy as playhead control I can record Step poly notes into Gadget. If anyone has an easier way to sync Step Poly to Gadget I'd like to know :)

  • It is hard to understand why StepPolyArp can't act as clock master. This should be essential for a touch controlled sequencer/arp app.

  • I send email to developer to ask Korg Gadget recording notes problem.

  • Just receive from developer as follows:

    Hi,
    It depends how you are using it.

    Midi connection
    StepPolyArp receive Midi notes and controls from Midi Input, and send Midi notes appreciated to Midi Out.

    IAA connection
    StepPolyArp receive notes and sync from host, and send audio to the host (Apple does not implement Midi output for IAA).

    Cordially,
    Laurent

  • I write email to developer again, post here for everyone to respond to.

    Hi, Sir
    Can you not just telling me the technical jargon?
    I ask you how SPA connected to Korg Gadget. You know that other sequencers apps can sync with Gadget and receive notes well. How about yours?
    Please, considering I am your user.
    Kai

  • replay again from developer as follow:

    Developer say:
    Consider SPA as an instrument, not a sequencer, so, without technical jargon, Cubasis is a sequencer and can instantiate IAA instruments, now, I don’t know how you are using and how is working Gadget, is it working like a sequencer? I don’t use or have it unfortunately, for me, Gadget is more instruments like SPA is!

  • edited March 2015

    Thank you developer of SPA, I won't send you email again If you as developer see this paragraph. I won't find trouble with you. I just want to say I will never treat StepPolyArp as a pattern sequencer again nor will I treat it as a choice for sequencing notes to send midi to other app again. Because I don't get it what it is "The StepPolyArp" . Not interesting simply!

    As everyone know what is a sequencer alike! such as MidiPatternSequencer, Das Lauflicht, Pro midi, Koushion, B-Step, Thesys to name a few. I am sorry that I don't get it. No wonder I am waiting for Modstep to come everyday. Because this is such bxxxsxxx environment by using iPad. This is also a opportunity to a real genuine app business to come for the future.

  • At least ChordPolyPad works well with Gadget.

  • This doesn't change what a great app SPA is, I think the fault lies with Gadget maybe here. I've managed to sync SPA with Gadget using MidiFlow

  • edited March 2015

    @Carnbot said:
    This doesn't change what a great app SPA is, I think the fault lies with Gadget maybe here. I've managed to sync SPA with Gadget using MidiFlow

    Ya, not directly. Das Lauflicht have exactly timing and connecting Gadget very well. Unfortunately, Das Lauflicht has no velocity and gate control, and note length in Das is not changeable.

  • @klangsulfat said:
    It is hard to understand why StepPolyArp can't act as clock master. This should be essential for a touch controlled sequencer/arp app.

    From dev

    "Seems Gadget does not have Midi Sync send, yes, StepPolyArp has not neither cause it is not a sequencer and have not notion of Start/Stop transport that is necessary to have a Midi clock send. So, it is the master sequencer that should send Midi sync all other devices to applications that become slave to it."

  • edited March 2015

    I and Laurent ( developer ) keep contacting to make this issue clear. What I hope is that SPA and Gadget work well to each others. Das Lauflicht can be perfect example (recording to Gadget) , but Das Lauflicht needs more functions. I simply hate the tiny cells of Gadget. Wishing SPA can makes Korg Gadget a real fun for musicians. I am not musician by the way.

  • I can recommend MidiFlow in this instance, works well for me to sync SPA to Gadget, otherwise an option would be to sync both SPA and Gadget to a DAW

  • edited March 2015

    As I said, fewer fuction in between, which make apps more playful, enjoyable, and valuable business. I don't like lots connections in between as a user.

  • Yes that's true, in this case though I can see where Laurent is coming from. SPA is a an instrument, an arp not a sequencer. Gadget as a sequencer/DAW should be able to send a midi sync which SPA can connect to.

    Let's hope in an update for Gadget Korg adds Midi sync send to make it easier :)

  • edited March 2015

    You are right! Gadget is not perfect too. Korg needs all of us to push too.

  • Gadget doesn't have clock send, but it can be routed into an audio track in Cubasis, and then controlled with a midi track just below that audio track. You can then use StepPolyArp to control that midi track in Cubasis, using the clock send in Cubasis to control StepPolyArp. The end result is you get those clean midi patterns, it's just that you get them in Cubasis and not Gadget.

    That's actually more complicated than it sounds, and yeah it kind of sucks to have to use three apps that way and not have the midi show up in Gadget, but until Gadget adds clock send StepPolyArp won't sync directly with Gadget.

  • Erm, set Gadget and SPA to the same BPM, turn SPA arp and latch on, SPA will start arpeggiating on first note reception...problem solved?

  • edited March 2015

    @1P18 said:

    +1
    But Das Lauflicht can sync and record notes very well to Gadget's own environment.

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