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What Dynamic Loop Slicer Apps (like Gadget's Abu Dhabi) Are There For The iPad?
I've been looking for a good stand-alone, playable dynamic loop slicer, similar to Korg's Gadget (Abu Dhabi). It has been suggested that Samplr might be an alternative. What I'm wanting to do is (like Gadget's Abu Dhabi) take a sample, slice it along the beats, and have each part assigned to a midi trigger, so that I can sequence each hit or mix it up. I don't think Samplr does that, does it? I don't have enough space to keep Gadget on my tablet right now (until I update to a new tablet), so I'm looking for a good alternative.
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Egoist
Cool! Thanks Halftone! I'll look into Egoist!
yeah Samplr can't do MIDI triggering like that (sooo wish it could)
I'd 2nd the Egoist suggestion, great app
Beatmaker 2 could also do this, but Egoist would probably be more direct (as well as a more fun interface to work with, in setting sample chop points)
Yeah, Beatmaker 2 would work, but it is a huge bloated mess. I'm trying to conserve space on my current iPad. :-) How is the user interface on Egoist? Is it like Thesys where you have to zoom to get any work done? Thesys is so fiddly that I don't use it. The think that I like about Abu Dhabi is that it has a great user interface, and is very simple to use. I just don't have the space to have Gadget on my system just for one gadget. :-)
Woah, I just checked out the size of Egoist. It's almost the size of Gadget!! Isn't there anything smaller??
Beat me to it AJ. Egoist is great but it's unreasonably large.
Egoist is by far the clearest GUI Sugar Bytes have made for iOS. No zoom, different features on different screens, very nice layout, imo. It is a shame about the app size/library (unfortunately the loaded samples can't be deleted from what I can tell).
I have a slight lag in Egoist with every screen press (iPad 4), which slightly blunts the impact and usability. Is this a non-factor on newer devices?
I've never experienced that issue on mine, Air with latest OS
I find egoist at least as fiddly as Wow, both of which haven't really been properly formatted for the touch screen. This thread actually prompted me to wonder whether there's anything done in egoist can't be done in Gadget. Gadget with the sleek UI and broader sonic spectrum definitely takes the biscuit in my eyes. I still don't regret having bought Egoist as I'm using turnado and effectrix loads so I suffer from a major brand loyalty towards Sugar Bytes therefore no remorse whatsoever.
The transient detection on Egoist is way better than Gadget, in my experience. Like not even close.
Also I like the zoom feature on Egoist, which makes it less fiddly to work with.
That's true but I got so spoiled by Samplr that I wasn't too happy with Egoists small strip for manual transient adjustments.
ahh gotcha, ever try the zoom?
but what is more important to you, the quality of the transient detection or what you can do with the slices. Personally I think transient detection is great and should be standard in any slicer but as long as i can slice loops equally and as long as I can manually move slice markers easily then that's more important... for example in Samplr moving slices around, adding them and deleting them is an exercise in futility. Samplr is still my favorite app in all of iOS land but it's manual slicing game is atrocious. Thank goodness for it's auto slicing.
there are better options out there
'Course, the bar above. Old tricks
Can't say I agree with that. Transient detection is great because frankly if done well, it is likely going to take most if not all of the leg work out. I've manually chopped samples a ton of times and love doing it, but if I'm doing that, I'm certainly not using any form of auto-slice to do it. Auto-slice itself is essentially an inexact form of transient detection.
It all depends how you're using those slices @kobamoto. I love the way transients are handled in Samplr but maybe we're using it in two different ways. Each to their own.
I think many of the heated discussions on this (if not any) forum come from differences in the way people use software.
Spoke to Sugar Bytes early February about a few things. One of which was to auto slice a straight drum loop. (In Egoist).
"Regarding the 'Auto-Slice' into equal parts feature I'm afraid to tell you that it's currently not possible
but we will improve the slice function here and there and will see what we can do about it in one of our next bigger updates."
Hope that helps!
For me, they are both pretty important. I imagine though that most of the time I'll be taking a loop and playing it through the song and then playing fills, intros, endings and such created from the same loop. I figured a> @kobamoto said:
For me, they are both pretty important. I imagine though that most of the time I'll be taking a loop and playing it through the song and then playing fills, intros, endings and such created from the same loop.
VERY good to know!!
Samplr detects transients? I thought it was just regular subdivisions?
You're right it doesn't it just divides it in equal parts so needs to be adjusted manually if a beat is slopy
Auto-slicing doesn't have to involve transient detection at all. Many sample slicing software have the ability to autoslice in regular intervals (in bars/beats) or by transients. It's too bad that some apps only do one or the other.
I'm not saying it involves transient detection. In retrospect, that could have been worded better. What I was trying to say is that the maths involved in an auto-slice (where the chops are laid is just math), it's attempting the same thing as transient detection but not looking for sound when doing it. I hope I'm making sense.
edit: sorry, I can't type, been working for too long today hahah
Maybe yellofier but not sure if you can trigger individual slices with midi or not
Nanostudio (72.9 MB)
Protein Der Klang (59.3 MB)
ASlicer (48.5 MB)
I'll look into those @shortbus. Thanks
I'm so glad I got a 128gb ipad.....I remember the days when I used to obsess over every app purchased followed by lots of decisions on 'if I delete this, then save samples in dropbox, then delete that and save to laptop'.....now I have every app I bought on the iPad and plenty of room left....it's so refreshing to eliminate the need to constantly obsess about space on my iPad....liberating even....
in terms of Egoist and Abu Dhabi I'm liking controlling them both together in Cubasis along with other apps (that work) using state saving....
i'm not sure what part you are disagreeing with, but i agree transient detect is great. but how is it more important than what you do with your slices afterwards.... they are way to many apps that don't have transient detect and are still quite useful.