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Syncing a Korg Volca Beats with Gadget?

Syncing a Korg Volca Beats with Korg Gadget...

Anyone done it? Any good?

Any other tips?

I'm thinking about getting a Volca Beats...

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  • @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    Syncing a Korg Volca Beats with Korg Gadget...

    Anyone done it? Any good?

    Any other tips?

    I'm thinking about getting a Volca Beats...

    I'll try it this afternoon. I believe both act as slaves only, so you'll need something else to provide a clock.

  • Thanks...

    Gadget is definitely only a slave.

    If the Volca accepts midi clock as a slave then I could run, say, loopy and have it provide clock for Gadget and the Volca. That would be ok...

    The other thing is the Korg Sync app... but i'm not sure that would trigger Gadget.

  • Does Gadget support audio interfaces with multiple outputs?Once i created a rock solid audio clock in cubasis to drive the volcas.I used just an unused mono output.It was definitely better than Midi clock.Absolutely tight.

  • Last time I tried syncing volca bass to loopy it run at 3x the original speed. I messed with volca's global midi settings but no luck.

  • The answer would have been the Korg Synckontrol app on an iphone - audio click to the Volca and Wist to Gadget.

    https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/korg-synckontrol-for-monotribe/id438617344?mt=8

    But WIST doesn't work any more as far as I know.

    Another idea i've just had...

    • iPhone app that sends midi clock (to iPad) via bluetooth or a cable - e.g. Funkbox - and also sends a click to (via headphone socket) to the Volca.

    Can't see why that wouldn't work...

  • edited April 2015

    Possibly use Klevgard's SyncMix http://klevgrand.se/products/syncmix/ and use MIDI with Gadget and CV sync with the Volca instead? I don't have the app though.

  • Mmm- doesn't work...

    Funkbox (on iphone) > Apollo Midi over bluetooth > Gadget (ipad)

    Problem is the midi clock doesn't run smoothly - tempo wobbles. Presumably because it's over bluetooth.

  • I'll try this evening. I think I'll use midibus as the master here. Will report soon!

  • Thank you. Much appreciated.

    I'm thinking if it's running exactly 3 times too fast when @supadom sends it midi from Loopy - that normally means it's getting it 3 times. Maybe it has 3 ports? Or loopy is somehow sending it three times or something.

  • Korg SQ-1 is also an option as well as adding some fun to the mix.

  • edited April 2015

    Don't the Volcas also have settings for how they respond to sync signals?

    Does Wist really not work anymore?

  • I can't get WIST to work on iOS 8.3.

    Korg Synckontrol freezes when you try to sync it with Gadget.

    Ive also read that ios8 broke WIST

  • Bump...

    Anyone had any luck syncing a Korg Volca with anything midi?

  • edited May 2015

    Yep! I have a Volca in sync with a Diode-108 song. No problem. Nothing tricky came up. It all just worked.

    The Volca is plugged into my MacBookPro (usb/midi converter). MidiBus is sending sync to the Volca through midimux. MidiBus is also sending sync to Diode-108. When I hit start, they march off together in sync.

    Then did the same thing, but replaced MidiBus with nordbeat 2. Again, no problem.

    (MIDI-sync enabled beta version of Diode-108, of course. Coming soon to an iPad near you.)

  • edited May 2015

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  • @asnor said:
    The hip bone connected to the thigh bone; the thigh bone connected to the... butt bone; the butt bone connected to the...

    Haha, yeah. When I try to use my MIDI Interface, my iPad complains about the cord, so I had to make my Mac the MIDI interface.

  • edited May 2015

    @Diode108 said:

    Whatever works! :-)

  • Thanks @Diode108 - that's really helpful.

    I'm reassured by this.

    Which Volca do you have by the way? Do you like it?

  • edited May 2015

    I have three and I put them all into sync with the Diode. I have the Bass, Beats, and Keys.

    I was one of the maniacs who preordered them when they were announced and I still had to wait in line because they were so keenly desired. I love them, but keep forgetting how to use them so I have to check the manuals all the time. They aren't as obvious to use as, say, my Moog Minitaur. :-)

  • edited May 2015

    I tried with Midibus as the master. Midi out from the iPad via Alesis IO dock II through Midibridge to ensure everything was routed correctly. So far I only tried to sync the Volca Beats with the arp in Laplace, and that worked fine, but the tempo was definitely doubled.

    Something I was able to do was to send midi to my Microbrute and take a tempo locked square LFO from the patchbay to the Sync In jack on the Beats. This conveniently allowed me to halve, double or quadruple the tempo with the LFO rate control. Triangle and Saw waves also worked for in sync, yet odd rhythms.

    Consensus = Volca Beats plays at double speed (advance one step every 16th note) when synced to Midibus. More clock masters to be tested.

    **Regarding Gadget, I got fed up. I don't use it much and getting Gadget to play start from Midibus was not working for me. I was probably doing something wrong.

  • I wonder why it's doubled for you, aleyas. Definitely not what happened for me. MIDI sync is always a journey.

    I love your Microbrute solution. :-)

  • @Diode108 said:
    I wonder why it's doubled for you, aleyas. Definitely not what happened for me. MIDI sync is always a journey.

    I love your Microbrute solution. :-)

    That usually means the device in question is getting clock signals twice. @aleyas, triple check your MIDI bridge routing.

  • Yeah, MidiBus reliably pumps out 24 MIDI clocks a quarter note. Something must be wrong along the way.

  • I had it slaved to loopy with no other apps running and volca bass would still run at 3x. Tried with sync send off and it would stop responding therefore in my case, unless loopy is sending 3x clicks it wasn't the case of too many clicks especially because microbrute slaved perfectly on first attempt.

  • edited May 2015

    So Dom, you're sending clicks for the Volca sync connector on top of the Volca, not MIDI clock sync, right? I wonder what the trigger pulses look like coming out of your triggering device, and what the Volca expects.

    All my syncing of Volcas has been done in MIDI.

  • edited May 2015

    The iPad is connected to akai eie via lightning. It has a midi out which I connected to volca sync mini Jack input using din to stereo mini jack cable. I got the cable off ebay and it stated it could be used for midi purposes but admittedly I'm not completely sure whether the soldering on the cable was correct (polarity etc.). What cable did you use?

    This is the one I've used.

    I find the jack out solution that clever con queso suggested on the other forum worth exploring.

  • edited May 2015

    My solution is completely different, so probably not helpful. M-AUDIO MIDI adapter connecting the Volca to my Mac. Mac talking to iPad through the standard connector using midimux (which is software that runs on the Mac and the iPad to make MIDI instruments on the Mac look like they are connected to the iPad). It's a pretty cheap solution, but requires having a Windows or Mac computer be involved.

  • Classic usb to midi, right?

  • @supadom

    Try sending the square LFO from your 'brute to the Volca Beats. Works perfectly.

  • @Goozoon said:
    Classic usb to midi, right?

    The M-AUDIO adapter? Yeah, one of those translucent plastic egg MIDI adapters that does classic to USB.

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