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@Carnbot It is your preferred destination as regards editing midi notes?
Not yet exactly I tend to hop about from app to app still a bit, but I can see it's potential... I haven't grasped everything in it quite yet. I can see myself using it more and more though.
I recently recorded a session of stuff through to MTS over different midi channels plus audio and it was very good at recording audio and midi data at the same time.
Also opening midi data in the app is great as it opens on to separate tracks ready to go.
The matrix sampler is very cool too.
Thanks for the insight. I suppose what my laziness is waiting for is the app/solution that is the 'must' for midi....I don't tend to record more than one thing at a time, so I guess the killer aspect for me is the best editing area/piano roll/whatever. I have grown to be reasonably efficient in Gadget which tells me that if someone really nails it we'll all be pretty happy.
In hope rather than expectation I have been thinking that surely Cubasis/Steinberg would get on this stick, especially as a deflection from Auria Pro; it's what I would be thinking if I was in their marketing department. Fortunately I'm not.
There's always got to be something.
It does send MIDI clock so that's good.
http://www.recordingmag.com/demo/news/display/917.html
I want Auria Pro right this second but I appreciate Rim taking exactly as long as it needs. It's a big deal.
I'm also looking forward to NS2 and BM3. I'm admittedly an NS fanboy but I'm still pretty sure it will end up being the sequencing app we're all looking for — if the 80 year old NS1 is any indication of future quality.
I suspect and hope you might be right. It all seems to be taking its own sweet time, but I have a feeling by Christmas it will have been already.
Some questions about Genome early on/OP. I've got it and used it. Prior to Gadget, I found it to be the best sequencer on iOS. Very easy to figure out, link up and go. The whole "patterns" thing was never an issue for me because I compose in sections, so subdividing into sections to compose makes sense. Now, keeping track of all those patterns and triggering them live ... Fish in a different kettle and might not be for everyone.
I haven't tried it since the update (current projects are all pretty committed to Gadget), but I would be surprised if it's gotten worse. I never got on with BM2's goofy interface. I'd rate Music Studio's interface well above that, but it's self-contained until it gets its own BIG update sometime in the hazy ...
'Course, I'm optimistic Auria Pro will become the One Ring to Rule Them All. Until then, I have no problem recommending Genome as a solid contender. I'd gladly go back to it should the need arise.
So, which one - Genome or Koushion?
I like Novation Launchpad app a lot, and I'd love to have a midi sequencer with similar Ableton style clip launching functionality, but midi patterns instead of audio clips of course. Something like Auxy but on steroids
Something that be used when performing live
Can Genome do this?
Out of those 2 Genome is closer to what you seem to want.
Yamaha Mobile Music Sequencer might be worth a look too.
Genome, if you can get your head round it... I think it got redeveloped and improved though...
That said I don't own Koushion.
Genome is growing on me these days.
Especially with the internal sounds. It is easy to scratch ideas before doing the MIDI-sanity.
I just looked at Kushion.. I looks just like Xynthsizer. Which is an amazing app. I am shocked no one recommended it in this thread as far as I saw.
I need to have another look at Genome sometime - I uninstalled it and haven't been back since the redesign and internal sounds...
I usually just use Auxy (or if I need automation, ProMidi) and I rarely need more than 1 track for what i'm doing.
Bought Kushion, but didn't get enough out of our first date to make me want to put out (the time). Fickle lovers we are. Perhaps, like iSequence, I will come back to it one day and realize what I might have missed, but I have (and had) the intuition that there are better dance partners to mix your metaphor with at this point in time.
Genome has better handling of clips/clip-launching compared to Koushion, I have both...
Koushions limitations can be quite annoying, I'll get to those, first some basics...
Every 'Scene'(total 16-scenes) has 8 'patterns' and each one of those 'patterns' can send on a different midi-channel if desired, the pattern playback can be, single, chained (for longer than 16-step patterns), played at the same time, 'rebound'(all used patterns are changed and played in ping-pong) and 'random'.
So far so good, the annoying things start if there is a need to sequence more than one CC per scene, use multiple timing dividers or scales per pattern.
Scales per pattern would be very handy for creating transposed versions of patterns within the same scene. (Just copy the pattern to a new location and alter the scale).
Alternate timing-deviders per pattern would make it easy to mix 1/4(Kicks), 1/8(snares), 1/16(percussions) and 1/32(hi-hats) and creating interesting rhythms as the individual patterns wrap around as example. This alternate timing per scene/pattern is one of the features i really like in Yamaha's TNR-e.
The multiple CC's per pattern would be useful to sequence multiple CC's per instrument.
As an example, lets say you have a bass-line on Scene 1 and would like to control mod-wheel, filter cut-off, resonance, and maybe decay of the sound using CC?
Logical solution would be to create pattern 1 with the notes and maybe Mod-Wheel(CC1), add a simultaneously playing pattern controlling filter cut-off and another pattern controlling resonance and one controlling decay...
The workaround for these 'limitations' in Koushion is to use multiple Scenes sending on the same midi-channel and that makes triggering patterns a pain in the 'rear' as only one scene can be on-screen at one time, meaning no way to trigger patterns from another 'scene' unless switching to that scene.
Another annoyance that might bother is the limited number of notes on screen at the same time, for example if viewing the chromatic-scale only 16 notes (1 octave + 4 notes) are present at once, and shifting octave doesn't help as the pattern is just transposed... (So no 3 octave arpeggios unless using multiple scenes).
Even with these limitations I like using Koushion for making bass-lines and sequencing other apps.
The UI is clean and it's a very solid app, no crashes what so ever.
Genome has more features that Koushion that's for sure but I just can't seem to 'get along' with it
But if pattern launching is needed Genome seems to be the only option for now until 'MidiSequncer' gets an and the 'next app' from the Developer hits the AppStore...
Sorry for long post, need to 'ventilate my brain'
"Xynthsizer. Which is an amazing app. I am shocked no one recommended it in this thread as far as I saw."
I'm gonna recommend Xynthsizer like I have on every other forum thread!!!! Get!
@audiblevideo I like Xynth. It's easy enough for me to grasp. Elegant. But am I missing something about it that makes it particularly worthy? It seems pretty straightforward to me, perhaps, comparatively (and even for an idiot like myself) too straightforward...
Guys, thanks for the opinions. You're the best
If only app store had the same refund policy that google play store has... I'll probably get Genome then and hope it delivers what I'm looking for. Should have bought it a couple months ago when the price was just 9 plastic dollars
Yamaha MMS looks nice too, but costs more, has only 8 tracks and weighs >200Mb.
testing Modstep now
looks promising but feels kinda unusual
Hope they will fix all the UI glitches before releasing it - something that Pro Midi developers should have done in the first place
Is Modstep out?
How much is it?
Personally, I have just got my stride with Genome. Last night I ran Synthmaster, Alchemy, and Diode into Cubasis with Genome and for the first time I really feel like Genome is fit. It took me 2 months on again off again tinkering uninstalling Genome, reinstalling, to finally dig it.
So, it makes sense now I ask about Modstep and take 3 steps backwards..............LOL
no, it's not out yet. I'm a beta-tester
Didn't you sign an agreement not to reveal that information?
Just wonderin...................................
Yamaha MMS goes free quite often. It's big because it has a lot of preset styles to pick from as well as making your own.