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iOS synths with PolyPhonic aftertouch
Hi,
I'm interested in which iOS synths read in per note midi aftertouch and what they let you map it to?
Any good examples in iOS land?
Thanks in advance.
Matt
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animoog
Cool thanks @solador78 - so I presume you can map Aftertouch for each note to things like "pan" .. and it will pan the note individually and differently to other notes in the chord? So you can hit 2 notes at the same time then make one slowly drift full left and the other full right?
Animoog, Thor, iSEM, NLog all have a mod matrix with aftertouch as a source, poly-pressure in Animoog but I think it's the same thing(?).
On the ENV/MOD tab there's a drop-down box with a list of assignments to choose from. MIDI-out is an IAP, so I don't know how well it works with external sound sources (if at all).
Thor does it globally it seems as in not per note. Pan is not an option in Animoogs mod matrix destinations.
Correct, Thor is channel aftertouch. @Matt_Fletcher_2000,I think even though a few of these accept poly aftertouch, they may be limited to what you can assign the actions to. I was unaware that AniMoog received poly aftertouch, but now I will have to play with it tonight. I've had limited success with assigning it to more than one "knob" at a time. Could just be my lack of knowledge though. Personally I'm happy with channel aftertouch since the only controller that I have that sends aftertouch is the EWI. Thumbjam is really coming along with implementation of this type of support though.
Good luck in your search.
Thanks @firejan82 and @Martygras
Just had a look and Animoog does indeed have Aftertouch (which it calls "polypressure") in the mod matrix and you can assign it up to 4 times (there's 4 mod panels) to:
all the filter properties
the orbit properties
the path properties
the lfo rate/shape
detune
pitch (in 1 or 5 semi tone increments)
That's pretty nice. You could have any of those things changing on a 'per note' basis. It certainly works with the Animoog onscreen blades.
Haven't tried midi in, but TC-Data will send per note aftertouch if you design the patch to do so. I believe the CME-Xkey USB keyboard does too...
Could make for some pretty interesting Animoog pad design with all sorts of stuff happening as you add and remove new notes...
Mitosynth... also (maybe) the only iOS synth which can do also polyphonic aftertouch via the amount of finger which has contact to the screen. It's an experimental thing but it really works for me
It's also one of the few synths which can modulate all it's targets polyphonic. I think Grain Science can do this too. Wooji Juice is a tough guy 
Edit: And it's the only synth i know of which has no limitation in the amount of modulations.... means you can use endless modulations (if your CPU can handle it.... my iPad Air can't do what i want
WaveGenerator and WaveMapper can send and receive poly aftertouch I think but I'm not sure how far you can go with the settings. Tc-Data plays well with Wavemapper.
TC-Data & Wavemapper are perfect together.
Animoog,
iSEM,
Cube,
Z3TA (in theory, couldn't make it work)
@Matt_Fletcher_2000 Do you own Wavemapper? I really think you'd get a kick out of using it with TC-Data. If I remember correctly, @BitShapeSoft used Wavemapper to preview TC-Data in its very first video. The aftertouch in WM really suits it.
Matt, Animoog uses it extensively in the presets. On the tines, higher up is more poly aftertouch. For me anyway, it's a key ingredient in its magic.
@SpookyZoo - thanks but I don't own Wavemapper. I need another synth like i need... But maybe i'll get it
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@Syrupcore - thanks... yep - i'll probably explore this most in Animoog. It's not something i've paid much attention to so far... but it's interesting to be now i've been exploring TC-11 and TC-data aftertouch and 'per touch' modulations.
How are you guys testing these? Do you all have keys that send poly or are y'all looking at some midi monitor app? I think one of my Roland Handsonics sends poly-AT, but not sure.
You can hear it, in animoog anyway, when you assign pararmeters to the (per key) poly aftertouch. E.g you can apply a filter sweep to one note while the other note remains unfiltered. It's pretty cool.
Haven't personally tested with midi in. But i'd personally set up a template in TC-Data to test this works (i'm sure it does) because TC-Dat can send poly aftertouch values (per note).
Not just hear it, you can also see it in Animoog if it's assigned to orbit or path...
Animoog rocks
YES!!!, backe the new XKey Air:
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/xkey-air-the-bluetooth-mobile-music-keyboard/x/7448723#/story
and cant wait to play it with animoog
it appears that Z3TA does not respond to polyAT. In the modulation matrix there is a control source called Polyaft, but it does not work. Recently I read a post in the Cakewalk forum about this exact question, but no answer.
Sorry for digging this, but it seems that none of the AUv3 synths mentioned can use aftertouch !
It works as IAA but not as AUv3.
At the moment, only Model 15 works with aftertouch as AUv3.
Is it something known ?
I just grabbed a keyboard with aftertouch that's how I found out...
I’m glad you revived this thread @crony. I was beginning to wonder if I was missing something in app settings or elsewhere. Same thing here, Model 15 only last time I checked. I’ll start paying closer attention with the other synths now.
Anyone getting after touch with any other apps?
I know for sure PolyAT works just fine with iSEM and Kauldron as AUv3. Also Model 15. I don’t ever remember finding anything it didn’t work with. I haven’t been using PolyAT lately though.
Hmm...I'll double check, but I clearly listened to it with Isem on the IAA version, and not the AUv3, same patch...
With iSEM the depth on the PolyAT isn’t a whole lot. Sometimes, I’d doubly route it for more depth. Also, when checking route it do some painfully obvious destination so you can be sure it isn’t working. I’ll try to remember to check myself later.
oups, wrong post
I too am very interested. Just got a Hydrasynth keyboard which outputs poly aftertouch (as poly AT or mpe)
Have a hydrasynth desktop in the shipping process... woohooo
Using AfT with my Launchpad pro
Quanta, Continua, Zeeon, iSEM, FRSM
I’m not super skilled kn setting up this kind of stuff but I belive that Synthmaster one has PA.