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What is that "reface" countdown in the Yamaha Synth book? - Musicradar link

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  • @Buska said: The presets are 'cloud' based (online) and use sysex midi to load them onto the reface through a chrome browser extension.. no joke lol

    Yes, but these are aimed at being out and about, or performing with them, I need a button to press for my next sound! Or maybe the slogan "Your sound, any place, any time" - notice it says Sound and not Sounds!

  • Actually, I have looked again at the CS specs that have been posted, and this time understood that there are various oscillator modes - supersaw, pulse width, sync, ring mod, FM - each with texture and Mod variations, and with the LFO routable to these. Suddenly I am interested again! If they are cheap enough and sound good, they should sell by the bucket load!

  • I'm SCURRED!

  • If the price is right (~$100) these might be nice as controllers for the iPad :D
    Maybe they can even act as USB-Audio Devices, that would be a really nice bonus.

    Few more hours to go until the official information is out and maybe then we'll be able to download the user-manuals for them and see what they are really made of...

  • Plastic mainly by the look of the pictures.

  • @Samu said:
    If the price is right (~$100) these might be nice as controllers for the iPad :D
    Maybe they can even act as USB-Audio Devices, that would be a really nice bonus.

    Few more hours to go until the official information is out and maybe then we'll be able to download the user-manuals for them and see what they are really made of...

    Look forward to your considered opinion Colonel...

  • @BiancaNeve I was mor thinking about what they are capable of doing :)

  • edited July 2015

    @alexbuga said:
    It's hard to beat the IPad see days. I was playing with Gadget which I've been neglecting lately and man I sure lost my lust over the JD XI. I also have a CME XKEY 37 and honestly I don't need anything else.

    Heck it even works with my iPhone.

    I'm thinking of building an arduino Bluetooth le knob box

    @Buska said:
    exactly how i feel, not much beats an ipad now. i have a iconnectmidi4+ and it makes the ipad into a rock solid synth module, i can plug USB or MIDI controllers straight into the icm4 and also control other instruments from the ipad.. love it

    PFFFT! Lolz. I finally hooked up my gizmos today. And it's just great. SOO much easer to work with then the silly iPad. And, you can't pimp iPad synths with Swedish Christmas lights (which is just one more reason hardware > ur sillu ipOds).

    Before/After hooking everything up..(I know, stop drooling)..

  • @Buska said:
    $399 lighter?

    Ouch!

  • @Buska said:
    $399 lighter?

    £399?

  • Yep, over 500 USD each. Insane....

  • eight hundred dollars msrp

    EIGHT HUNDRED DOLLARS MSRP

  • These damn musical applications, too damn expensive if'n you ask me....

  • That $799 price has to be a mistake. Not that $536 is any more realistic....

  • $799??? That just seems silly.

  • Ooh nice, only 800 bux. I'll buy 2 of each, gotta up that 8 voice polyphony on the CS and DX (100 bux per voice, not that bad!)

  • Street is $499 at the big retailers. Which is too rich, IMO. They look like a blast, though.

  • The Yamaha 'Reface Live-Broadcast' was a big anti-climax. (Even worse than some Apple events when everyone is expecting super awesome products and get none...).

    The new reface DX has 'feedback' on each operator making it possible to transform the wave from sine to saw or square. If the feature is not patented I can see it popping up in FM4 sooner or later as it should technically be able to generate even broader palette of sounds than previous FM-Boxes or Apps.

    If I'd have to pick a favourite it' would be the reface CS for hands on control...

  • @Samu said:
    The Yamaha 'Reface Live-Broadcast' was a big anti-climax. (Even worse than some Apple events when everyone is expecting super awesome products and get none...).

    The new reface DX has 'feedback' on each operator making it possible to transform the wave from sine to saw or square. If the feature is not patented I can see it popping up in FM4 sooner or later as it should technically be able to generate even broader palette of sounds than previous FM-Boxes or Apps.

    If I'd have to pick a favourite it' would be the reface CS for hands on control...

    Feedback is very common. Goes all the way back to DX7, though I believe historically it's been on only one of the ops. I missed some of the Livecast. Feedback is on all the ops?

  • @Diode108 Yepp, feedback on all 4 operators :)

  • edited July 2015

    @Samu said:
    Diode108 Yepp, feedback on all 4 operators :)

    Ah, so that's why they didn't mention alternative waveforms in the specs. Interesting!

  • They'll be the same price as the MicroKorg in no time.

  • £347 each according to the Sonicstate videos.
    We'll be lucky here in Sweden if the price ends up being less than 5000SEK with taxes and all...

  • edited July 2015

    @Diode108 From the Yamaha homepage

    4-operator FM Sound Engine offers dynamic and expressive additive synthesis

    A new feature of this engine is continuously variable feedback on every operator allowing for a wide-range of sound creation.

  • @Samu said:
    Diode108 From the Yamaha homepage

    4-operator FM Sound Engine offers dynamic and expressive additive synthesis

    A new feature of this engine is continuously variable feedback on every operator allowing for a wide-range of sound creation.

    Just watched all 4 Sonic State videos so I have a much more clear view of all the controls in action.

  • So these ReFace 'things' will be shipping in September. I feel that my interest may fade before they arrive to a store nearby.

    I do get a 'Gadget Like' vibe from the different 'wave-forms' of the ReFace CS, limited number of parameters and modulation options, things like that never stopped me from loving my Juno-106. But then again I think the ReFace CS is meant to be 'played & tweaked' live using arms and everything else as a modulation sources instead of routing envelopes and LFO's to everything.

    The keyboard also seems to be quite well made so as a controller it might also serve a purpose...

    Time will tell if I will become a ReFace CS owner :D

    It's really quite scary, when I closed my eyes i saw my self sequencing the ReFace CS using Koushion, it could also be that I'm getting really, really tired...

    (-.-)zzZZZ

  • Yep, clearly jumped the funny shark with that price.

  • edited July 2015

    I've just seen Bonners in the UK taking pre-orders at £289.

    @samu - yes, I was kind if reminded if a souped up Juno myself, rather than a cut down CS80!

  • Under £300 these could sell.

    I thought they all sounded great, even the electric piano, which I wouldn't normally be interested in, sounded pretty interesting once Nick Batt started messing with the effects while playing.

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