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Apple's Swift kick in balls

Bravo,If Taylor Swift can alter Apple's policies,perhaps there's hope that another (Star)might be a spokes-person for ios musicians et.al.that have issues with Apple ,here's hoping!

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  • The cynic in me says Apple did this on purpose for the publicity. And I'm not an Apple hater....

  • Apple won't be paying any artist for the first 3 months of the release of Apple Music because they are offering it to the public for free. To be fair to Apple they pay the highest royalties in the online business. After the first 3 months the artists will get paid.

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    @mkell424, But I thought they ARE paying the artists during the 3 month free period. Isn't that what all the fuss is about today? http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/06/22/apple-music-taylor-swift-royalties-policy-changes-after-singers-scolds-tech-giant/29109605/

  • On the face of it if it takes a corporate artist with sufficient clout to do something for everyone else then good on her.

    The arrogance of Apple to presume that they can do what they want with artist's work is staggering. As she said, shall we ask them now for free iphones ?

  • This publicity looks like an massive win for Apple. They couldn't have orchestrated it any better than this.

  • @anickt said:
    The cynic in me says Apple did this on purpose for the publicity. And I'm not an Apple hater....

    +1

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    Taylor Swift seems very smart, and I admire her. We've seen what happens to less competent celebrities when fame hits.

    But when she writes a public statement, be it about Spotify or Apple, she doesn't do it in a vacuum. She is making business decisions with her management and label, of course. Probably lawyers have to approve it.

    Look how much of her message was spent on saying it's not about her. That all sounded written to head off what happened to the tone-deaf Tidal folk.

    Are there people who think she just tweets and blogs off the top of her head? Probably. When I was a kid, I thought the Brady Bunch actually had a family band.

  • Everything and everyone is about money, money, money..... nothing else!!! Indeed i really hate this whole streaming shit. I think music is dead in some years ;) At least i can make my own music now :D And for the few artists i like i will buy their stuff. I know i'm talking like an old fart but.... in the past everything was better. Cheers!

  • I didn't even know that there was a 3 month free trial until today.

  • Aside from paying for streaming, I still buy some music. I have bought some LPs in the last few years. I didn't have to buy Kid Koala's 12 Bit Blues on LP (I could hear it on Spotify whenever I wanted), but I wanted to spend the money to have the LP.

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    Apart from my horde if CD's, I spend a lot of the time now listening to unsigned artists on Soundcloud. Better than most of the latest commercially available predictable cock.

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    The best way to support artist would be to visit a concert (if possible). It's like everything today, some make the big money and all others are doomed. It won't get better in the future. Look how soundcloud changes. In the beginning it was an awesome platform. Now it's a shitty commercial facebooked f...... full of bugs and less features which works just for famous artists which have a large fellowship. IOS turned the same way.... Sorry, had a little rant ;)

  • @Diode108 said:
    mkell424, But I thought they ARE paying the artists during the 3 month free period. Isn't that what all the fuss is about today? http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/06/22/apple-music-taylor-swift-royalties-policy-changes-after-singers-scolds-tech-giant/29109605/

    No it's in the article you posted: "No royalties for the trial. Work for Apple for free." Some of the smaller indie labels are also not going to be part of the free trial because they simply cannot afford it. Also The Beatles, Adele, and Radiohead are not participating.

    I think they will eventually because streaming is the only game in town for mass consumption. CDs and digital downloads are dying. Thank god for iTunes Match. I've got a ton of CDs I collected over the years that were never transferred over to iTunes. Also new albums that are coming out like Radiohead.

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    @mkell424, I reread the linked article twice more, and I think I'm still missing your point. Apple was not going to pay during the 3-month free trial. Taylor Swift called them out. They reversed the decision and are now going to pay during the 3-month trial.

    Are you saying that Apple isn't going to, or wasn't going to?

  • Wow, that's a pretty cynical reading of it, but all you have to do is look at where everyone ended up afterwards, and it looks like a pretty clear win-win:

    Apple generates publicity about their new free streaming service (and it's free for 3 months)

    Swift counters a "spoiled diva" perception by winning one for the little guy

    Apple comes out looking like a merciful, thoughtful corporation by changing course

    Swift looks like a mega-star for having the clout to get Apple to change course, when they notoriously never do

    Hmmm...

  • @Diode Sorry you are right. I skimmed the article and saw the statement at the bottom. My bad. :)

    That's great they are going to pay the artists. Apple not paying in the beginning was bullshit because they are the most profitable company in the world. It's not like they can't afford it.

  • @mkell424 said:
    Diode Sorry you are right. I skimmed the article and saw the statement at the bottom. My bad. :)

    That's great they are going to pay the artists. Apple not paying in the beginning was bullshit because they are the most profitable company in the world. It's not like they can't afford it.

    Cool. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something (which is always possible and often likely). :-)

  • @StormJH1 said:
    Hmmm...

    Apple is smart. Taylor Swift's org is smart.

  • Of course we are not party to any labyrinthine machinations behind the scenes, but Apple have not come out of this well at all - far from smart.

  • Is it not early to say how Apple comes out of this really?

  • Streaming like radio equates to syndicated control, to the average person this is of little consequence, we do what we're told.

  • I love the headline, did you make it up @Greenie ?

  • No Apple haters here so far ,love them to bits personally but I'm sure one or some of the kids.'coxed' this up and dad put it right ,my kids do stuff on purpose but sometimes it dont impress me much.--Long live IOS, we have Saint Doug and the boys @TSTR, the BUS crew M&S.and all you Dev's,I really appreciate the work you put in to make this magic

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    @monzo

    the latest commercially available predictable cock

    I'm pretty certain I heard my grandmother shouting this down the street as my grandfather ran off to the pub on Friday nights with his pay packet...

  • I think the best possible thing for iOS music and musicians is to strive hard to get on established and respected labels that have nailed the art of music distro.
    Let them worry bout these monetary things..

  • Yeah it's amazing arrogance that Apple were offering other peoples work for free.

    Respect to Taylor Swift for taking a stance, which also makes a nice story "but the real story is far less simple" (As usual) according to this article http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2015/jun/22/taylor-swift-does-apples-climbdown-really-demonstrate-her-power about a quarter of the global market was threatening to pull out.

  • Another thing to keep in mind with all of this is that the streaming stuff I believe is led by Jimmy Iovine.

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    According to Jimmy Apple wants to get as many artists as possible on their service including "the kid in his bedroom". He also thinks Apple is going to pay the artists more. Good article.

    'Jimmy Iovine just revealed the real agenda for Apple Music':

    http://www.businessinsider.com/jimmy-iovine-apple-music-real-agenda-2015-6#ixzz3drf35CFM

  • @JohnnyGoodyear, My grandmother had a similar saying but it was directed at my grandfather on the following morning, 'eh, tha looks like a bucket of cods wallop', BTW the den of ill repute he frequented was where they filmed the Full Monty.

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    @anickt said:
    The cynic in me says Apple did this on purpose for the publicity. And I'm not an Apple hater....

    Quite possible.

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