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New sugar bytes
Not for iOS yet..but their track record guarantees we WILL see this intriguing tool soon enough..
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Here's link
http://www.sugar-bytes.de/content/products/Obscurium/index.php
Dammit, you got me. I knew it was coming for desktop and I feel like it will be the next SB iOS iteration.
I saw it for sale on Plugin Boutique. It'll probably be $25 on the iPad if the iPad's CPU and RAM can handle it. It does't look that CPU intensive.
Learn to operate your Cyclop first!
I'm going to do a demo of the VST version in the next day or so, probably mainly presets which are nothing short of stunning when you play them on a midi keyboard, but you guys should watch this tutorial, it's truly awesome
Oh yeah and I will be doing a pre release demo of the new pack for iSymphonic too which is very very nice plus it will have a new feature added in the next update with this new pack which will make all you iSymphonic users very very happy
I REALLY want to put this on a t-shirt
When I first saw this I thought: oh no, synthetrix has arrived. But boy, was a wrong!
Sugar bytes have this recycling going on in their apps but actually it is massively genius recycling of ideas. Who cares if the recycled ideas bring crazy outcomes. Also the name obscurium, first thought: not for me.
It doesn't seem that cpu intensive but the amount of on screen controls worries me though. iPad Plus? Possibly, 9.7 IPad? Sounds like a stylus jobbie. But I guess if they do a port (which they definitely will) and both iPads run the same iOS version (which they'll definitely will) I'm definitely getting this.
It seems a lot like Different Drummer so I guess it should be possible on a recent iDevice...
In the VST version you can open any other VST inside Obscurium and control it with Obscurium, even using the standalone
Yeah I thought that.
I love Sugar Bytes apps, but the examples on their site made with this are generally a bit too twitchy for my tastes - I already get that with Egoist. I'll still probably buy it though.
The VST hosting and how it works is what really interests me. You could really get creative with different synths, samplers, and drum machines.
I saw some early concepts (or early dev build) for this way back, and thought this is too weird even for the mad genius(es) at Sugar Bytes. But was lucky enough to give it a few test spins during beta, and I must say that SB really pulled it of quite brilliantly.
With the VA and FM as basis for the sounds, and the way the whole Motion lane/grid works with its 16 or so parameters morphing around (and that's "only" the motion grid, there's lots of stuff outside it as well to tinker with), it kinda feels a bit like a willy wonka factory for sound designers. Can be a bit overwhelming at first perhaps, but with the various "drawing" tools available for the motion grid that makes it a snap to draw parameter changes, the extensive and handy tooltip, anyone should get the basic hang of it after playing around for a few minutes. It's also one of those instruments where you don't have to dive in too deep if you don't want to, and you'll still be able to get some cool things going. Rythmic stuff, leads, sequences, pads, plain weird shit etc.
It's a bit weird, it's something new, something different, and fun. Not the same 'ol, same 'ol. That's kinda one of SBs things though I guess, they come up with new fun ways of doing things, it's not just a few sliders and a knobs, call it a synth and wrap it up.
Love this, had a play on the desktop, might buy it for that before the iPad one comes out, if they plan to port it. They should do hopefully, fingers crossed as the drawing on the screen bit and interface would work well on the iPad touchscreen.
People complain about trying to use Thesys on a small touchscreen- this looks even harder!
Don't forget that it would be ported to iPad by SugarBytes themselves... Which means that it will probably not work well on the iPad (even if it could)...
I have bought Turnado and another app a few years ago after some people told me it was dope... And I must say that the concept/idea of these apps is dope, but the interface and way to use it are not adapted to the iPad at all (+ they look old/ugly IMO), and I felt really ripped of...
I now put SugarBytes in the same bag as Retronyms or IK Multimedia and therefore I will probably never buy an app from them again...
It's very subjective... Do not mean to offend anyone. Peace.
I don't think that's fair, their apps aren't full of bugs. Personally I don't mind the fiddly interface on most of their apps, though they'd be easier to use if they were less cluttered. I've got nearly all of their apps and the only one I regret buying is Thesys - that one really is impossible to use, and a bit rubbish.
The fiddly side is more often than not compensated by their midi implementation. Sugar Bytes totally rule. Must be because they use this stuff themselves.
I don't even bother with Turnado because the interface is absolutely woeful to manipulate, the bugger jumps all over the place and the menu's are near impossible to navigate, it is potentially an app I would love dearly but unless SB revisits the design I will never look at any of their other apps.
I wouldn't let it put you off, Cyclop and Egoist are less fiddly, and the payoff is unique, brilliant apps. Turnado is my most used effect. The two things that annoy me about that one is the MIDI learn that keeps popping up when you don't want it to, and the millimeter high switches in the editor, which would be unusable on an iPad Mini and just about do-able on a full sized pad.
Sugar Bytes should take a look at the Fabfilter UI's - they've got just as much going on but still seem to provide decent sized buttons and switches.
Their UI will never put me off buying their apps though, they're probably my favourite developer just for the sheer joy their apps provide me with.
They need add acp and set bar record with metronome before I use it lol
Lol, u r smoking the wrong strain of weed man..
Sugar bytes are great devs,, really out of the box potent tools..
Yeah, they are a class act, and give you all the features you expect. None of this "oh, didn't realize people would want MIDI sync, we'll try to add it in a later version"- just 1:1 ports of their desktop software.
I've got all their iOS apps, and to me the only one held back by a small screen is Thesys- I don't find Turnado to be a problem at all.
At this point in time, I admire them so much for making these great, pro-level applications fully available on the iPad at fair prices - and they work great, very stable, notwithstanding the smallish stuff in Thesys - that I´ll buy whatever they make available on iOS. We are fortunate that Sugar Bytes treats iOS users seriously, not as an afterthought / "lets just give them some taste of our desktop stuff" way.
How is Turnado fiddly & jumpy etc? The are 8 big ass knobs and 4 huge XYs. Can't get much simpler. The backside/edit page when u need to tweak something in detail, perhaps, but how often do u mess around on that page really? Thesys tho...Only that rumored 12.9" iPad Pro might save that one.
I'd love to see Looperator on iPad. I am a fx/loop slicer freak though.
http://sugar-bytes.com/content/products/Looperator/index.php?lang=en
You can do a whole lot via-LFO's on the edit page, when I use Turnado, I spend the majority of my time there. With that said, the edit page has a good zoom feature, so it's not really fiddly.
I do find Thesys quite fiddly.
Turnado's even less fiddly and squint-inducing when you have a MIDI controller...
"oh, didn't realize people would want MIDI sync, we'll try to add it in a later version"
Haha, so true!