Official "STUPID" Question THREAD

Will

@crzycrs said:
As for the drums/compressors bus scenario, syrupcore - would you be so kind to point out for me how I can bring 'sidechaining' (e.g. with a vocal track) into the equation?

Many have already said it better than I could. https://www.google.com/search?q=sidechaining+in+auria

[Deleted User]

Thank you very much.

TozBourne

@AlterEgo_UK said:
TozBourne Paul thanks for that info!
If Promidi can separate 16 tracks of midi from a single file mixdown from Cubasis via open in then it is probably worth the £7.99 asking price! No Audiobus though? But IAA.

Sorry I didn't respond sooner, I hadn't been back in the forums, all week (wow!)

Anyway...from my experience, a midi file can contain 16 midi tracks and there's no mix-down function like for audio that I have seen. A midi file contains all of the midi tracks, but some apps/software will allow for export of only non-muted tracks (Music Studio?). However, ProMIDI can export single midi tracks; otherwise for sharing, just save file to new name and edit out what's not needed and export that.

ProMIDI is indeed AB and IAA compatible. I've mostly used it as IAA host, driving another app with midi and recording it at the same time. It mostly works...but I have not pushed it much, usually just do single tracks at a time. And we're talking iOS midi, so patience may be the most important attribute for this (I need to keep reminding myself).

knewspeak

Network session is nice, it's a pity only a few apps actually initiate a session though, but Thumbjam does and neatly once it initiates the connection other apps can piggy-back the connection, if they can use network midi that is.

AlterEgo_UK

Thanks @TozBourne

RUST( i )K

@wigglelights said:
Here's my question - what is the IAA midi spec? In my case I encounter IAAm in Cubasis and most recently in MTS, and I am unclear as to what the expected behavior is. There also seems to be inconsistencies between apps as to how IAAm is implemented.

Just to qualify the question- I've been messing with midi since the late 80s. I eventually had a couple of keyboard synths, and several rack mount synths and fx, and for sequencing my Amiga running Bars&Pipes, plus Soundquest for editing and managing patches. And my beloved JLCooper router. So basically I'm saying that I had to learn both the physical patching, midi in/out/through, as well as configuring software to match. (And obviously I get that audio was a whole nother deal, I had a 12ch mackie to handle all the ins, outs, sends and returns).

My wtf question came as follows.
I usually rely on AB for audio routing, and I usually only use IAA as an insert for FX apps (I.e. Audio routing not midi). I was working in Cubasis, and recording a Thumbjam track. I created and armed both a midi and audio track - midi was set to listen to TJ midi (via the inspector), and the audio listening to AB. Swapped to TJ, engaged record, perfect. Got the audio performance, plus midi if I want to layer later.

Then I swap to iFretless. Yikes. I can get my other iOS synths to use iFG as a midi input, but for the life of me I cannot get Cubasis see it. Tried midi router apps, and every variable I could find, no go. Until came across a blurb somewhere, and loaded iFG as an Instrument in Cubasis. Bang, now I got midi recording.

But now I'm in the whole "only one instance" IAA limitation - where using the Inspector and AB did not. I know how to work around that, but it's just extra steps.

So it looks like IAA includes some sort of zero config (pseudo)midi routing. And it seems in the case of iFG and Cubasis, that routing must be used rather than virtual midi. And in the case of MTS (which I've just started with) it's the only way in and out. IAAm also seems to include some sort of sync, which sounds like, for some users, works better than the usual midi clock.

It feels like one of those Apple things - I shouldn't have to know about it, therefore I can't. But I grew up in a world of 5pin dins and 1/4" trs cables and that drives me nuts. Obviously my DAW's developers are though.

In my case, the challenge seems to be that I like using iFG as a midi controller, but IAA won't allow for any routing, it presumes I want to hear iFG if that's what the midi source is.

So if I have to count on interappAUDIO for midi routing, what am I supposed to expect, and what is the expected workflow?

Geez, I don't know some of the answers.

I can say this. For me, as more changes occur with IOS music apps, Cubasis, and Audiobus, there are more difficulties and variables.

I know for a fact that I have some apps that end up working in spite of my knowledge of virtual midi, etc.

The rules are not concise or consistent.

It is kind of trial and error over time with each app.

I have found that some OLDER apps are NO LONGER sending / receiving MIDI data correctly when dealing with Cubasis.

I have found that AUDIOBUS REMOTE has actually helped to connect some things that previously didn't APP communication.

I have also found that CUBASIS has been shitty and inconsistent since the AB REMOTE changeover.

I am sure someone else can help you more specifically.

dwarman

@RUncELL said:
Yes. Thanks Martygras, monitor mixes are sent to the cans pre fader. That way the fader does not affect the monitor mix and the aux becomes the monitors gain control. A little advanced for an iPad maybe.!

Not really. Auria has the necessary settings.

Will

There are other reasons you may also want to set a send to pre or post fader. Let's say you have your AUX 1 reverb at 100% wet (normally do because the dry signal is still coming out the channel and into the master). You want to have a little bit of a dry rim shot track coming through AND you want the rim shot to come through the reverb loud and drenched as an effect. If you have the aux set to post-fader, you can not do that (short of adding a reverb to the rim shot track as an insert) because as you turn down the channel volume (for the little of bit dry sound) you're also reducing the level to the reverb. On the flip side, you might want to have your 100% reverb AUX and use it as a subtle room sound to bring all of your tracks into the same acoustic space. At that point, you basically want your send mix to match your levels mix and for that you really want post-fader. Start with all of your aux sends at 40% or something, make your mix and then tweak the sends a little bit.

JohnnyGoodyear

^ Good stuff.

RUncELL

@dwarman said:

Thanks @dwarman, I don't have Auria so I wasn't 100% sure hence the maybe.

Would also require an iconnect of somesort for extra outs to make it really work for monitor mixing.

dwarman

Or AudioMux (I think, have to test),or there are several nice USB interfaces. But yes, the physical outs currently have to exist for them to be selectable.

[Deleted User]

@MartyGras here's an article that explains the difference between core midi and virtual midi in iOS.

[Deleted User]

@Martygras here's an article which explains the differences between core midi and virtual midi.

ashh

HOORAY!

Ailerom

Where is the output on Branches?

ashh

Turn up the levels on the Low Pass gates. Middle bottom of the screen.

ashh

How do I remove a connection in Branches?

FPC

@ashh said:
How do I remove a connection in Branches?

Long press on the wire.

ashh

@FPC said:

@ashh said:
How do I remove a connection in Branches?

Long press on the wire.

Cheers!

supadom

Why do birds suddenly appear every time you are near?

ashh

@supadom said:
Why do birds suddenly appear every time you are near?

Well, they're just like me, in that they long to to be, close to you.

michael_m

@ashh said:

@supadom said:
Why do birds suddenly appear every time you are near?

Well, they're just like me, in that they long to to be, close to you.

Ah!

(Ah ah ah ah)

supadom

@michael_m said:

@ashh said:

@supadom said:
Why do birds suddenly appear every time you are near?

Well, they're just like me, in that they long to to be, close to you.

Ah!

(Ah ah ah ah)

Perhaps it wasn’t such a stupid question after all!!!

JeffChasteen

@ashh said:
How do I remove a connection in Branches?

@supadom said:

@michael_m said:

@ashh said:

@supadom said:
Why do birds suddenly appear every time you are near?

Well, they're just like me, in that they long to to be, close to you.

Ah!

(Ah ah ah ah)

Perhaps it wasn’t such a stupid question after all!!!

😸

ashh

@michael_m said:

@ashh said:

@supadom said:
Why do birds suddenly appear every time you are near?

Well, they're just like me, in that they long to to be, close to you.

Ah!

(Ah ah ah ah)

Close, To, Youuuuu.

ashh

Right, this might be a very stupid question indeed.

Me and my mate have been trying to make a track together in Ableton. He has the student version and I have the working person's version. What that means is that when I try to send him anything other than bird farts, he doesn't have the module.

That aside, I have tried every permutation of Collect All and Save and also Manage Files and it simply doesn't do that!!!!!! One more!!!! And another!!!@&;%$\

What am I doing wrong, my peeps?

colonel_mustard

@ashh said:
Right, this might be a very stupid question indeed.

Me and my mate have been trying to make a track together in Ableton. He has the student version and I have the working person's version. What that means is that when I try to send him anything other than bird farts, he doesn't have the module.

That aside, I have tried every permutation of Collect All and Save and also Manage Files and it simply doesn't do that!!!!!! One more!!!! And another!!!@&;%$\

What am I doing wrong, my peeps?

Wrong forum/thread for Ableton tips! But if he doesn't have the bits that make the audio (synths/fx etc) then consolidate those bits and send him the audio (cmd-j).

I have a stupid question:

Why would I not use the mfx version of an app? a.k.a. what's the point of the 'regular' fx, when there are two versions? is it to keep out stray midi messages, interfering and that? Or maybe syncing to time (ms), rather than beat divisions? I didn't find anything in the wiki about this, and have a feeling that I missed the memo.

hansjbs

Why do you park in a driveway but drive on a parkway? Hmmmm,.....🤔

colonel_mustard

@colonel_mustard said:
Why would I not use the mfx version of an app? a.k.a. what's the point of the 'regular' fx, when there are two versions? is it to keep out stray midi messages, interfering and that? Or maybe syncing to time (ms), rather than beat divisions? I didn't find anything in the wiki about this, and have a feeling that I missed the memo.

Wait a sec, I don't mean mfx, which I get. Crossed the streams there, my bad. I mean 'Effectrix Midi' vs 'Effectrix', for instance. These ones. Is there an advantage to using 'Blackhole' instead of 'Blackhole (MIDI)'?

ashh

@colonel_mustard said:

@ashh said:
Right, this might be a very stupid question indeed.

Me and my mate have been trying to make a track together in Ableton. He has the student version and I have the working person's version. What that means is that when I try to send him anything other than bird farts, he doesn't have the module.

That aside, I have tried every permutation of Collect All and Save and also Manage Files and it simply doesn't do that!!!!!! One more!!!! And another!!!@&;%$\

What am I doing wrong, my peeps?

Wrong forum/thread for Ableton tips! But if he doesn't have the bits that make the audio (synths/fx etc) then consolidate those bits and send him the audio (cmd-j).

I have a stupid question:

Why would I not use the mfx version of an app? a.k.a. what's the point of the 'regular' fx, when there are two versions? is it to keep out stray midi messages, interfering and that? Or maybe syncing to time (ms), rather than beat divisions? I didn't find anything in the wiki about this, and have a feeling that I missed the memo.

Do you mean send him each track as a wav file?