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Waves CR8 Sampler ($10 intro, current as of 17/02/22) and free sample finder/organiser.
Not sure how long the intro price lasts for:
$9.29 @ Audiodeluxe (Cheaper if you have saved points):
https://www.audiodeluxe.com/products/audio-plugins/waves-cr8-creative-sampler
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i bought it, but haven’t had a chance to try it yet. looks like it has a fast workflow. I like the modulation and layers with key splitting. Cubase Pro sampler just seems to be a little lacking, this might be a nice option.
Cosmos is great. Love seeing all my samples in this manner.
Would be curious to hear your thoughts once you spend some time with it. As cheap as it is, I'm really trying to avoid unnecessary purchases, or at least make them on iOS
yeah. i’ve been pretty busy, but as soon as i get back to my studio. i’ll let you know what i like and do t like about it. hopefully it’s as cool as it looks.
Please don't rush on my account. I'd rather any excuse not to buy it, even at the $8 it would cost me. It's not just that I swore off the Waves universe, some years ago. But I'm also trying to focus on iOS for the moment.
If it turns out to be great, it will come 'round again. If you think it's a killer-app, well...
here is a video showing it’s capabilities
If you miss out on the Intro price, you might have to wait for literally minutes until the next Waves sale.
It’s a smart idea (it’s basically a clone of Ableton’s samplers). I’m surprised it’s taken this long for a 3rd party to create an Ableton Sampler clone as a plugin (Ableton style samplers now exist in a few other DAWs).
@jonmoore It is obviously a cult
One of those sign-in to our overlord infrastructure kind of things....having said that, at first glance it's worth the ten bucks to use their sample organizer, however, I can't obviously see the CR8 itself. Am guessing it's NOT a stand-alone, but only a plug-in?
At least we had Serato Sample which isn't too bad either.
It looks a lot like Simpler.
As far as I can see it's missing one essential feature that makes Simpler so fun...
...the instant slice to keys mode!
BM3 does this as do Live's Simpler, Logic's Quick Sampler and even Cubase's Sampler Track...
So yeah, I do hope that Ableton's iOS Efforts do not end with Link...
...bring on Simpler AUv3! Hello Ableton??????
(Honestly I don't think they give a sh*t about AB forum but I'd love to be proven wrong here).
Cheers!
I have Serato Sample already – does this do anything different / better?
@Oblique bit of a comparison here.
That's why I said Ableton samplers. It has a bit more than Simpler but it's not as capable as Sampler. The bit that it has that's common to both is a speedy workflow.
Ultimately, they each excel in different areas. I always think of Serato Sample as a hybrid between a live performance effect, and a production tool. CR8 is similar in the sense that UX fluidity is at its core, but its modulation options are closer to those of a full sampler (it has deeper synthesis options).
As I mentioned in an earlier post its features are pitched somewhere between Ableton's Simpler and Sampler. And I think that's a good functional space to occupy. In Ableton, you can covert any Simpler device into a Sampler, but when you do that the complexity goes through the roof. CR8 seems to provide just enough extra functionality without blinding you with too many options.
They have a huge free sample pack too
Oh please bring it to Cubasis
Good comparison. They seem differnet enough to justify having both!
umm, this is my new favorite sampler. for anyone on the fence. get it. yes there are more powerful samplers with other features. but for fast sample work…. this is the best. The modulation makes this thing a sample manipulating machine, along side sample layering. and the keyboard layout features are so fast and simple to setup, but still very powerful. As a Cubase user , i had high hopes for their sampler update in the last version, but it seemed slow and lacking features. this does it all and so much faster. I highly recommend.
Thanks for the update! Good that it's useful to you. I am indeed still on the fence, though mainly because I'm trying to make headway i iPad-land. I know that if I skip it now, it'll eventually go on sale again. Maybe not as low as this, but still very low, given the RRP.
Thanks for the update
I use Logic’s Alchemy and izotope’s Iris 2 for polyphonic chromatic (non-beat matched) pad kinds of stuff. Does CR8 offer anything different? Just wondering if I should purchase. I guess maybe the stretching algorithms are different so that might be something different? But yeah… any reason to buy if already have Logic? I don’t care about the sampler browser portion. Thanks!
agreed. I haven’t used Alchemy in a long time, but i really liked it, so i’m not sure how it compares to that. And i am not a very big fan of Iris 2. i feel like it is slow , and has a lot of features , but never get the kind results i’m looking for.
As far as CR8. the sample browser is a cool idea, like XO but I usually know what specific sample i’m gonna load up in a sampler anyway. so i am not really looking to browse them. the algorithms are middle of the road.
I definitely like serato samplers timestretching algorithms better. but the thing i like about this one the most is how fast it is to work with samples and layer up them and spread them across the keyboard. for more performance based sampling. so fast.! I think that is the key feature for this one.
I've not bought this... but here is a link to the PDF manual:
https://www.waves.com/1lib/pdf/plugins/cr8.pdf
Thank you Mister Spook!
I was tempted for a minute for $10 just to have an XO/Atlas type drum sample finder but I'd then run in to the same old issue I have with all Waves plug-ins, you only get one license. You get a second one 'free' for a year then have to pay to keep it.
Waves want $150 a year from me just to keep the second licenses active. That's just not worth it to me and I need two licenses as I use my office iMac and my MacBook Pro at home and run the same projects on each. Sometimes I will spend an hour or so after work on a project and I just can't do that if I use Waves plug-ins.
Also, looking through what it can do I'm happy with the built in samplers in Logic anyway. For less than the price of one year of WUP (wupwup) I could buy XO or Atlas which I think would be better in every way for my needs.
Strange. Seems like we get free updates for a year, the app is ours forever after a year, and you can get a 2nd license free.
Check the support page:
https://www.waves.com/support/waves-update-plan
I’m not sure what “Covered” implies but it’s worth asking if it’s an issue for you. Anyhoo. App seems great for what it does. The free sample library is nice as well. Good to see more apps taking this approach.
'Covered' means under a current Waves Update Plan. You get the WUP included for 1 year with new purchases. After one year you lose access to the second licenses unless you take out another WUP.
And the WUP Prices are based on the full RRP (which nobody ever pays for Waves software) so ends up really expensive really quickly. My WUP is nearly $150. All of the plug-ins still work, none need updating (and none of the updates give any new features) but I've lost the second licenses on all of them not still 'covered' by the WUP unless I pay them $150. Every year.
Gotcha. What a crappy pricing scheme.
“First hits free my friend. First hits free…” well I’ll just ride it out. The $10 investment was worth the risk.
There are definitely some little gotchas hiding in the Waves policies, but I don't think there's anything nefarious about it.
They've been in business for decades, due to reputation and also these policies. The difference these days is the prices are extremely low, and most people are unaware that they will be paying for ongoing support.
The trick is to only buy the killer 'There's no other competition for this' plugins. And unless you're someone who constantly upgrades to the latest OS, on day zero, it's entirely possible to go a few years without paying WUP.
If this plugin ain't worth paying a little upgrade every couple of years, it's probably not worth having