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ButterSynth Is Released!

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  • PxlhgPxlhg

    @israelite said:
    BTW, what has oversampling to do with apps memory usage?

    Sorry - already went off to have a good day as per your suggestion.

  • dendydendy

    @Pxlhg said:

    @israelite said:
    BTW, what has oversampling to do with apps memory usage?

    Sorry - already went off to have a good day as per your suggestion.

    🤣

  • A_FoxA_Fox

    Ive only had a quick go last night, I was getting inspiration from it. A step modulator and matrix is always a winner for me.

    Just holding two notes unfiltered.. it has a good sound to me, a good rendering engine I guess.
    Well, I like it any how 😁 its a very well featured synth.
    £19.99? No grumbles here, I feel like I have stolen it and left a £20 note to take the piss.

  • KirnuKirnu

    @gregsmith said:

    @dendy said:

    @gregsmith said

    Do you know if the oversampling options are separate from presets, or do they get saved into the preset?

    separate, everything in that settings dropdown is global, patch not related

    Thanks. Very sensible.

    Whilst you’re around @Kirnu ….

    👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

    Thanks! Appreciated

  • KirnuKirnu

    @israelite said:

    @dendy said:

    @Pxlhg said:

    @israelite said:
    Air 4th gen doesn't have a small amount of ram. And to be honest I am too lazy to close other apps only to be able to use BS. For me Synthmaster 2 is doing everything BS is and has 3000 presets, so I will stay with SM2. Cheers

    Air 4 has 4Gb ram which should suffice. You must be on beta, dismissing it so easily, and if you have updated that lately you might have been thrown back to an older version (of the beta) as the beta testing is over (there are a limited number of testers).
    Also, but you're probably too lazy for this as well ;) --> check/change oversampling in settings. :D :D

    This, i can run up to 4-5 instances of beta on my iPhone, which has 4 gigs ram, i just need close other apps which is good practice anyway ;)

    Just for the sake of helping to troubleshoot the problem for @Kirnu
    I was not on beta. Paid for the synth. And got popup about maxing the AUv3s memory in NS2.

    I know you guys are preset makers and big fan boys, but still this doesn't change the fact that the apps code can be improved. Cheers

    Oversampling does not increase the memory consumption. Only CPU load.
    Do you remember which presets you were using when you got that memory warning? Big wavetables and samples will take lot of memory and there's nothing I can do about it.
    If you are getting memory warning with the init patch there's something weird happening then

  • KashiKashi

    Manual says this: Long-press (almost) any parameter dial in Buttersynth’s interface to setup a Mod Matrix destination. Select a source from the pop-up list, ….
    But it doesn’t seem to work. I press long hold and nothing happens (?)

  • KirnuKirnu

    @Kashi said:
    Manual says this: Long-press (almost) any parameter dial in Buttersynth’s interface to setup a Mod Matrix destination. Select a source from the pop-up list, ….
    But it doesn’t seem to work. I press long hold and nothing happens (?)

    which knob are you tapping?

  • KirnuKirnu
    edited April 2023

    @Kirnu said:

    @Kashi said:
    Manual says this: Long-press (almost) any parameter dial in Buttersynth’s interface to setup a Mod Matrix destination. Select a source from the pop-up list, ….
    But it doesn’t seem to work. I press long hold and nothing happens (?)

    which knob are you tapping? Try for example filter cutoff. It should at least work

  • Pierre118Pierre118

    @kirnu while 'testflighting' it was possible to use Buttersynth also on Mac M1, which was very good. But you removed that from the final version, why?

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  • KirnuKirnu

    @Pierre118 said:
    @kirnu while 'testflighting' it was possible to use Buttersynth also on Mac M1, which was very good. But you removed that from the final version, why?

    How did you run it in Mac M1? Standalone?

  • KirnuKirnu

    @Kirnu said:

    @Pierre118 said:
    @kirnu while 'testflighting' it was possible to use Buttersynth also on Mac M1, which was very good. But you removed that from the final version, why?

    How did you run it in Mac M1? Standalone? Are you talking about Mac Catalyst?

  • KrupaKrupa
    edited April 2023

    @Kirnu said:

    @Pierre118 said:
    @kirnu while 'testflighting' it was possible to use Buttersynth also on Mac M1, which was very good. But you removed that from the final version, why?

    How did you run it in Mac M1? Standalone?

    I ran it in Ableton, I haven’t checked yet whether it’s still working there since the release though…

    Edit: the beta is still installed and still works, but I can’t see it anywhere on the Mac App Store, not even in recent purchases…

  • tk32tk32

    Remember that the most recent betas are/were several versions ahead of the release build.

    Treat the release build as 'stable' and the beta versions as 'experimental/forthcoming'.

  • KashiKashi
    edited April 2023

    @Kirnu said:

    @Kirnu said:

    @Kashi said:
    Manual says this: Long-press (almost) any parameter dial in Buttersynth’s interface to setup a Mod Matrix destination. Select a source from the pop-up list, ….
    But it doesn’t seem to work. I press long hold and nothing happens (?)

    which knob are you tapping? Try for example filter cutoff. It should at least work

    Ah, working now 🤔 user-error I’m sure. Really enjoying it by the way. Sounds beautiful, and like most of the folks who were on the beta said; UI is clear and intuitive

  • gardengarden

    Yeah, I’m digging it. Very nice, broadly useful tool. I think this is going to get a lot of use.

  • Pierre118Pierre118
    edited April 2023

    @Kirnu said:

    @Pierre118 said:
    @kirnu while 'testflighting' it was possible to use Buttersynth also on Mac M1, which was very good. But you removed that from the final version, why?

    How did you run it in Mac M1? Standalone?

    @Kirnu Testflight version 0.9 (32) runs as well in standalone and as a AUv3 in Ableton/Logic Pro in MacOS Ventura on my 16" Macbook Pro M1

    I can't find which version the App Store released version is. It's not showing in 'about'

    Update : the App Store released version is the same as the most recent Testflight version, version 0.9 (32)

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  • dendydendy

    @ehehehe said:
    Can someone confirm that this doesn't have aftertouch as a mod source, or did i just misread? Thanks!

  • drconfusiondrconfusion

    @ehehehe said:
    This looks pretty cool, especially the comprehensive wavetable editor with fx that should yield interesting results. But Nave covers my bases in that sonic department until it dies. Can someone confirm that this doesn't have aftertouch as a mod source, or did i just misread? Thanks!

    I just checked the list of mod sources & I see “Aftertouch CH” & “Aftertouch Poly”.
    I haven’t tried them yet though.

  • Pierre118Pierre118

    @tk32 said:
    Remember that the most recent betas are/were several versions ahead of the release build.

    Treat the release build as 'stable' and the beta versions as 'experimental/forthcoming'.

    The release is the same version as the most recent Testflight version v0.9 (32), so the latest beta is the release version.

  • tk32tk32

    @Pierre118 said:
    The release is the same version as the most recent Testflight version v0.9 (32), so the latest beta is the release version.

    This is not correct. v0.9 (32) was the last of the 'public' ButterSynth betas.

    There have been 3 further builds, but these are only for the core beta team.

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  • israeliteisraelite

    @Kirnu said:

    @israelite said:

    @dendy said:

    @Pxlhg said:

    @israelite said:
    Air 4th gen doesn't have a small amount of ram. And to be honest I am too lazy to close other apps only to be able to use BS. For me Synthmaster 2 is doing everything BS is and has 3000 presets, so I will stay with SM2. Cheers

    Air 4 has 4Gb ram which should suffice. You must be on beta, dismissing it so easily, and if you have updated that lately you might have been thrown back to an older version (of the beta) as the beta testing is over (there are a limited number of testers).
    Also, but you're probably too lazy for this as well ;) --> check/change oversampling in settings. :D :D

    This, i can run up to 4-5 instances of beta on my iPhone, which has 4 gigs ram, i just need close other apps which is good practice anyway ;)

    Just for the sake of helping to troubleshoot the problem for @Kirnu
    I was not on beta. Paid for the synth. And got popup about maxing the AUv3s memory in NS2.

    I know you guys are preset makers and big fan boys, but still this doesn't change the fact that the apps code can be improved. Cheers

    Oversampling does not increase the memory consumption. Only CPU load.
    Do you remember which presets you were using when you got that memory warning? Big wavetables and samples will take lot of memory and there's nothing I can do about it.
    If you are getting memory warning with the init patch there's something weird happening then

    Sorry, I wish to be of more help but honestly I do not remember neither I can not recreate the event. The popup appeared when I switched to other app (MIDI keyboard) and then came back to NS2.

  • Pierre118Pierre118

    @tja said:

    @Pierre118 said:

    @tk32 said:
    Remember that the most recent betas are/were several versions ahead of the release build.

    Treat the release build as 'stable' and the beta versions as 'experimental/forthcoming'.

    The release is the same version as the most recent Testflight version v0.9 (32), so the latest beta is the release version.

    How did you get this impression?

    The latest TestFlight version I can see is version "0.1 (32)"

    I cannot see a version info in the AppStore or the App itself.

    In Testflight it's version 0.9 (32). When you click on the 'wrench' in Buttersynth you can see the version number of the release.

  • Pierre118Pierre118

    @tk32 said:

    @Pierre118 said:
    The release is the same version as the most recent Testflight version v0.9 (32), so the latest beta is the release version.

    This is not correct. v0.9 (32) was the last of the 'public' ButterSynth betas.

    There have been 3 further builds, but these are only for the core beta team.

    I don't have any knowledge about the versions for the 'core' beta team..... but hoping for a update soon so I can use it again as AUv3 in MacOS 13 Ventura.

  • Michael_R_GrantMichael_R_Grant

    @tk32 said:

    @Michael_R_Grant said:
    One other thing - it would be lovely if you could double tap or hold on a control to automatically assign it to the mod matrix and start the process of setting up a mod.

    You can long-press any dial to get a pop-up menu that allows quick mod matrix assignment.

    The dial you long-press becomes the destination, and the source is the option you select from the pop-up

    Ha, thanks. I didn’t hold it down for long enough!

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @Pierre118 said:
    @kirnu while 'testflighting' it was possible to use Buttersynth also on Mac M1, which was very good. But you removed that from the final version, why?

    Someone posted already that they plan to release a Mac version. It is quite reasonable for developers not to include Mac support for ios app store purchases given how little profit they make.

    I don't think it is fair to expect them to include Mac support of the released version jist becaise they allowed it during beta testing.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @israelite : i have an iPad 6 and am able to run up to three buttersynth instances. Fewer if I use big wavetables or samples.

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