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iPads aren’t a flexible enough tool

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  • @Luxthor said:

    @SevenSystems said:
    Or can you give me actual real-life examples where the transition from 8mm to 5mm adds significant value to the iPad?

    Well, we could only wait for the release day. 😅

    But it’s futile to compare our personal preferences, because what is good for me, does not mean it is good for you. Thinner devices mean more advanced technology, a smaller SoC, thinner batteries, less weight, less power consumption, fewer obstacles in the bag, better maneuverability, and a sleek and sexy look. 

    This makes it sound like thinness is required for more advanced technology, batteries, less weight and power consumption. But it's the other way around -- more advanced technology etc. enables (arguably pointless) thinness. I'm almost certain though that instead of making devices even thinner, they could just be kept the same thickness and instead fill the now "free" space with more battery. Because let's be honest -- that's what everyone is complaining about all the time -- not enough battery life. Nobody is complaining that devices are too thick.

    Your point about weight is valid of course. Less weight is objectively better. But more thinness isn't. The "obstacleness" of your iPad in your bag isn't due to its thickness, it's due to its surface area.

  • I think the thinness translates to cutting manufacturing costs, like how they say not including headphones or a charger to “be environmentally friendly” bullshit

  • @rs2000 said:
    Yep, the word "Pro" should return to its meaning that it had decades ago 😅

    What, prostitute?

  • Thinner and lighter is fine with me, makes it easier to travel with the iPad and work on music in the park.

  • I just want an iPad/iPhone screen I can see when I'm outside in the sunshine (auto-brightness is turned off, brightness slider at max, still almost impossible to see).
    Is it really difficult to do or something? Maybe the people who work at Apple don't get out much.

  • @abf said:
    I just want an iPad/iPhone screen I can see when I'm outside in the sunshine (auto-brightness is turned off, brightness slider at max, still almost impossible to see).
    Is it really difficult to do or something? Maybe the people who work at Apple don't get out much.

    Yes, another thing that's definitely more important than thinness, and certainly easier to achieve with less thinness 😄

  • I think a flexible iPad as pictured in some of these posts as something floppy would only be a hinderance for music making. Try to visualize playing an onscreen keyboard or manipulating knobs on something that bends away from you in response to pressure. You would end up needing to place it on a hard surface, stand, or case anyway.

    But I think the kind of flexibility the OP is about is more like relatively stiffly elasticity. That would help a lot with packability and would also help with durability as, presumably, shock from dropping, etc, would be absorbed first in harmlessly flexing the device. It would also force the use of non-shattering, bendable, touch screens, ending shattered screens forever.

    The more I think about the OP, the more I like the idea.

  • @SevenSystems said:

    @Luxthor said:

    @SevenSystems said:
    Or can you give me actual real-life examples where the transition from 8mm to 5mm adds significant value to the iPad?

    Well, we could only wait for the release day. 😅

    But it’s futile to compare our personal preferences, because what is good for me, does not mean it is good for you. Thinner devices mean more advanced technology, a smaller SoC, thinner batteries, less weight, less power consumption, fewer obstacles in the bag, better maneuverability, and a sleek and sexy look. 

    This makes it sound like thinness is required for more advanced technology, batteries, less weight and power consumption. But it's the other way around -- more advanced technology etc. enables (arguably pointless) thinness. I'm almost certain though that instead of making devices even thinner, they could just be kept the same thickness and instead fill the now "free" space with more battery. Because let's be honest -- that's what everyone is complaining about all the time -- not enough battery life. Nobody is complaining that devices are too thick.

    Your point about weight is valid of course. Less weight is objectively better. But more thinness isn't. The "obstacleness" of your iPad in your bag isn't due to its thickness, it's due to its surface area.

    Everything is fine what you said, but we are talking about portable devices here.

  • @wim said:
    I think a flexible iPad as pictured in some of these posts as something floppy would only be a hinderance for music making. Try to visualize playing an onscreen keyboard or manipulating knobs on something that bends away from you in response to pressure. You would end up needing to place it on a hard surface, stand, or case anyway.

    But I think the kind of flexibility the OP is about is more like relatively stiffly elasticity. That would help a lot with packability and would also help with durability as, presumably, shock from dropping, etc, would be absorbed first in harmlessly flexing the device. It would also force the use of non-shattering, bendable, touch screens, ending shattered screens forever.

    The more I think about the OP, the more I like the idea.

    But you can always buy a protective case for the purpose you mention. And keep the option of having a thin, portable, sexy device.

  • @Luxthor said:

    That's actually an intresting design if the space in back tray is actually usable to wrap up and carry some peripherals for music production.

  • @Luxthor said:

    @SevenSystems said:
    Or can you give me actual real-life examples where the transition from 8mm to 5mm adds significant value to the iPad?

    Well, we could only wait for the release day. 😅

    But it’s futile to compare our personal preferences, because what is good for me, does not mean it is good for you. Thinner devices mean more advanced technology, a smaller SoC, thinner batteries, less weight, less power consumption, fewer obstacles in the bag, better maneuverability, and a sleek and sexy look. 

    💯

  • @wim said:
    I think a flexible iPad as pictured in some of these posts as something floppy would only be a hinderance for music making. Try to visualize playing an onscreen keyboard or manipulating knobs on something that bends away from you in response to pressure. You would end up needing to place it on a hard surface, stand, or case anyway.

    But I think the kind of flexibility the OP is about is more like relatively stiffly elasticity. That would help a lot with packability and would also help with durability as, presumably, shock from dropping, etc, would be absorbed first in harmlessly flexing the device. It would also force the use of non-shattering, bendable, touch screens, ending shattered screens forever.

    The more I think about the OP, the more I like the idea.

    Yep, flex-ability like a decent (or even indecent) paperback book with some substance about it, or like a leather Filofax or some shoes, rather than floppy-flexible like a newspaper or leaflet or supermarket carrier bag or a t-shirt

    I think an area that isn’t fully explored yet is that of making the surface of a material adopt the image, rather than transmissively generate the image in a fragile and rigid sandwich – like the pattern on a butterfly’s wing, a fishes skin, a reptile’s skin, an octopus or squid’s skin – none of those have to be perfectly flat planes (the butterfly wing flexes a lot) so I think we need to steal from nature once more for inspiration on tinting or other ways that skin changes colour

  • I just bought the extremely new 2029 IPad Mist and even tho it is transparent and has that new vapor touch screen that you can’t really touch, I must say it’s Infinite Ports feature looks weird: with all those wires and dongles just floating in mid air…
    It is pretty convenient being able to take it anywhere using the little vacuum dongle. 🤪

  • That little vacuum dongle sucks. 😕

  • I’d agree that iPads could be more flexible. I’m ambivalent about thinner. If thinner leads to lighter, I’m all for it. But lighter without being thinner would work too. And, not having a camera bump would be welcome.

    Where I really think they’ve been off-the-mark is making the bezels so thin that they have to write software to try to guess whether a touch was intentional or not. Face ID constantly unlocks the iPad when I don’t want it to and doesn’t when I do, so I wish they’d give me the choice of Touch ID or Face ID instead of making them mutually exclusive. And the overloading of gestures is such a pain that I’ve turned on the on-screen home button. I don’t understand why we had to lose the non-mechanical home button that served a very useful purpose.

    But back to thinness: It’s when they tout the thinness of the iMac that drives me absolutely nuts. That’s just embarrassing. And it got to the point where they are making the product worse in order to make it thinner.

  • My honest opinion on this:

    The iPad isn’t the problem, we are.
    The limitations is our mind, not the hardware.

  • Out of interest, has Apple ever said why they think thinner is better? I know they have touted it as something desirable, but have they ever said why they think that?

  • Thin or thick it all needs power, I’d sooner have a longer lasting ‘thicker’ battery or even better a replaceable one, my old iPad 4from before the Vogue model fetishisation of iPad’s still keeps working, my Pros battery well that’s about finished.

  • I do want a better iPad, say with native touch sensitivity screen. But I think Apple is doing a good job provided there is no competition at all in the tablet form factor.

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