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Fugue Machine Rubato by Alexandernaut (Released)

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  • @Stuntman_mike said:

    @reezygle said:

    @echoopera said:

    @Coloobar said:
    This is Marketing strategy 101... what if the dev could be getting 20 buyers at $20 for every 1 he's getting at $60? Is his motive to make money or to keep this an elite product?

    I think his motive is to sell the app for what he thinks it is worth. $60 for 3 supported platforms seems fair to me.

    It’s a very specialized tool and i don’t think it’s for everyone. It’s really for midi nerds with hardware and software synths who enjoy the process of routing all the note data to various places.

    Everyone can use a hammer, but not everyone needs a nail gun.

    I completely agree. For me it’s about how much joy I can get out of it. I can go watch 3 movies for about the same price as this app. I’m not a movie guy. So for an old tech nerd like me with a love for making noise, and hooking things up together, it’s worth it. I’ve had so much fun with Fugue Machine over the years.

    I am going to get it but will wait to see if there is a special upgrade price before it goes full price in July.

    Is the special upgrade price not showing for you yet?

    I’m seeing the early discounted price of $59.99. But I thought they're thinking about a further discount for prior Fugue Machine owners. Maybe I misunderstood?

  • @Stuntman_mike said:

    @echoopera said:

    @Stuntman_mike said:

    @reezygle said:

    @echoopera said:

    @Coloobar said:
    This is Marketing strategy 101... what if the dev could be getting 20 buyers at $20 for every 1 he's getting at $60? Is his motive to make money or to keep this an elite product?

    I think his motive is to sell the app for what he thinks it is worth. $60 for 3 supported platforms seems fair to me.

    It’s a very specialized tool and i don’t think it’s for everyone. It’s really for midi nerds with hardware and software synths who enjoy the process of routing all the note data to various places.

    Everyone can use a hammer, but not everyone needs a nail gun.

    I completely agree. For me it’s about how much joy I can get out of it. I can go watch 3 movies for about the same price as this app. I’m not a movie guy. So for an old tech nerd like me with a love for making noise, and hooking things up together, it’s worth it. I’ve had so much fun with Fugue Machine over the years.

    I am going to get it but will wait to see if there is a special upgrade price before it goes full price in July.

    Is the special upgrade price not showing for you yet?

    It should be there. It showed up as $50 for me. I've had Fugue Machine since Day one...so I must have gotten it for pennies back in the day...The Bundle should take into account what the user paid for the original FM, and deduct that amount—at least that's what he said on IG.

    Again, I highly suggest users try the TestFlight versions of the app to determine if it's something you can benefit from and enjoy. It's a super specialized tool. This isn't just a Midi Sequencer...it's so much more imho.

    Yeah, I think I got the original app really cheap so a discount wasn’t gonna help me much 😂
    Here is my test drive of Fugue Rubato, I feel like I channeled Brazil a little:

    Interesting! Sounds great!

    I haven’t even thought about using multiple instances of FMR. How many play heads are you using in each instance?

  • @reezygle said:

    @Stuntman_mike said:

    @reezygle said:

    @echoopera said:

    @Coloobar said:
    This is Marketing strategy 101... what if the dev could be getting 20 buyers at $20 for every 1 he's getting at $60? Is his motive to make money or to keep this an elite product?

    I think his motive is to sell the app for what he thinks it is worth. $60 for 3 supported platforms seems fair to me.

    It’s a very specialized tool and i don’t think it’s for everyone. It’s really for midi nerds with hardware and software synths who enjoy the process of routing all the note data to various places.

    Everyone can use a hammer, but not everyone needs a nail gun.

    I completely agree. For me it’s about how much joy I can get out of it. I can go watch 3 movies for about the same price as this app. I’m not a movie guy. So for an old tech nerd like me with a love for making noise, and hooking things up together, it’s worth it. I’ve had so much fun with Fugue Machine over the years.

    I am going to get it but will wait to see if there is a special upgrade price before it goes full price in July.

    Is the special upgrade price not showing for you yet?

    I’m seeing the early discounted price of $59.99. But I thought they're thinking about a further discount for prior Fugue Machine owners. Maybe I misunderstood?

    There’s a “bundle” that he released. If you bought the Classic version at full price, you should see a small discount on the bundle.

  • @Edward_Alexander said:

    @reezygle said:

    @Stuntman_mike said:

    @reezygle said:

    @echoopera said:

    @Coloobar said:
    This is Marketing strategy 101... what if the dev could be getting 20 buyers at $20 for every 1 he's getting at $60? Is his motive to make money or to keep this an elite product?

    I think his motive is to sell the app for what he thinks it is worth. $60 for 3 supported platforms seems fair to me.

    It’s a very specialized tool and i don’t think it’s for everyone. It’s really for midi nerds with hardware and software synths who enjoy the process of routing all the note data to various places.

    Everyone can use a hammer, but not everyone needs a nail gun.

    I completely agree. For me it’s about how much joy I can get out of it. I can go watch 3 movies for about the same price as this app. I’m not a movie guy. So for an old tech nerd like me with a love for making noise, and hooking things up together, it’s worth it. I’ve had so much fun with Fugue Machine over the years.

    I am going to get it but will wait to see if there is a special upgrade price before it goes full price in July.

    Is the special upgrade price not showing for you yet?

    I’m seeing the early discounted price of $59.99. But I thought they're thinking about a further discount for prior Fugue Machine owners. Maybe I misunderstood?

    There’s a “bundle” that he released. If you bought the Classic version at full price, you should see a small discount on the bundle.

    Got it. Thx

  • @Jökulgil said:

    Someone early on mentioned someone creating a Drambo Fugue machine, that was me.

    I downloaded your patch ages ago, it’s a cool idea. This new release made me wonder what else could be done with the Drambo sequencer modules, so I’ve started working on a Fugue machine of my own, which you can look at here. Cheers :)

  • edited May 2025

    @Kashi said:

    @knewspeak said:

    @Simon said:

    @EnvelopeFollower said:
    unbelievable stable and iam amazed by the sync and thighness.

    Interesting.

    That could explain the high price.

    Or thigh price <3

    As someone from Yorkshire might say…

    Thou’s reight a bart that.
    And for a Sheffield ending add Luv, to the end of the sentence regardless of gender.

  • @knewspeak said:

    @Kashi said:

    @knewspeak said:

    @Simon said:

    @EnvelopeFollower said:
    unbelievable stable and iam amazed by the sync and thighness.

    Interesting.

    That could explain the high price.

    Or thigh price <3

    As someone from Yorkshire might say…

    Thou’s reight a bart that.
    And for a Sheffield ending add Luv, to the end of the sentence regardless of gender.

    Or ‘duck’ (dook), if you’re in Stoke 🦆

  • @oldsynthguy said:

    @knewspeak said:

    @Kashi said:

    @knewspeak said:

    @Simon said:

    @EnvelopeFollower said:
    unbelievable stable and iam amazed by the sync and thighness.

    Interesting.

    That could explain the high price.

    Or thigh price <3

    As someone from Yorkshire might say…

    Thou’s reight a bart that.
    And for a Sheffield ending add Luv, to the end of the sentence regardless of gender.

    Or ‘duck’ (dook), if you’re in Stoke 🦆

    Isn’t Chuck the Mancunian equivalent too.

  • @knewspeak said:

    @oldsynthguy said:

    @knewspeak said:

    @Kashi said:

    @knewspeak said:

    @Simon said:

    @EnvelopeFollower said:
    unbelievable stable and iam amazed by the sync and thighness.

    Interesting.

    That could explain the high price.

    Or thigh price <3

    As someone from Yorkshire might say…

    Thou’s reight a bart that.
    And for a Sheffield ending add Luv, to the end of the sentence regardless of gender.

    Or ‘duck’ (dook), if you’re in Stoke 🦆

    Isn’t Chuck the Mancunian equivalent too.

    I’m sure I saw a map of this years ago somewhere

  • @Krupa said:

    @knewspeak said:

    @oldsynthguy said:

    @knewspeak said:

    @Kashi said:

    @knewspeak said:

    @Simon said:

    @EnvelopeFollower said:
    unbelievable stable and iam amazed by the sync and thighness.

    Interesting.

    That could explain the high price.

    Or thigh price <3

    As someone from Yorkshire might say…

    Thou’s reight a bart that.
    And for a Sheffield ending add Luv, to the end of the sentence regardless of gender.

    Or ‘duck’ (dook), if you’re in Stoke 🦆

    Isn’t Chuck the Mancunian equivalent too.

    I’m sure I saw a map of this years ago somewhere

    That would be an interesting find, if you find it perhaps post it in another topic, because I think we’re slightly derailing this thread.

  • @Krupa said:

    @knewspeak said:

    @oldsynthguy said:

    @knewspeak said:

    @Kashi said:

    @knewspeak said:

    @Simon said:

    @EnvelopeFollower said:
    unbelievable stable and iam amazed by the sync and thighness.

    Interesting.

    That could explain the high price.

    Or thigh price <3

    As someone from Yorkshire might say…

    Thou’s reight a bart that.
    And for a Sheffield ending add Luv, to the end of the sentence regardless of gender.

    Or ‘duck’ (dook), if you’re in Stoke 🦆

    Isn’t Chuck the Mancunian equivalent too.

    I’m sure I saw a map of this years ago somewhere

    This maybe? https://dialectandheritage.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Q29_leaflet_map.html

  • Great, another Brit invasion ...

  • @Gavinski said:

    @Krupa said:

    @knewspeak said:

    @oldsynthguy said:

    @knewspeak said:

    @Kashi said:

    @knewspeak said:

    @Simon said:

    @EnvelopeFollower said:
    unbelievable stable and iam amazed by the sync and thighness.

    Interesting.

    That could explain the high price.

    Or thigh price <3

    As someone from Yorkshire might say…

    Thou’s reight a bart that.
    And for a Sheffield ending add Luv, to the end of the sentence regardless of gender.

    Or ‘duck’ (dook), if you’re in Stoke 🦆

    Isn’t Chuck the Mancunian equivalent too.

    I’m sure I saw a map of this years ago somewhere

    This maybe? https://dialectandheritage.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Q29_leaflet_map.html

    😆

  • @Pxlhg said:
    Great, another Brit invasion ...

    Maybe but It would also be interesting to find other regional differences for other countries, nationalities too. It would be really strange if this was just common to English speaking nations.

  • @knewspeak said:

    @Pxlhg said:
    Great, another Brit invasion ...

    Maybe but It would also be interesting to find other regional differences for other countries, nationalities too. It would be really strange if this was just common to English speaking nations.

    Of course it's not. Every language has regional variation, one simple explanation for it is to avoid inbreeding. Even animals has differences, like e.g birds.

    I love linguistics but as you pointed out about the derailing... let's start it's own discussion, if you like.

  • @Pxlhg said:

    @knewspeak said:

    @Pxlhg said:
    Great, another Brit invasion ...

    Maybe but It would also be interesting to find other regional differences for other countries, nationalities too. It would be really strange if this was just common to English speaking nations.

    Of course it's not. Every language has regional variation, one simple explanation for it is to avoid inbreeding. Even animals has differences, like e.g birds.

    I love linguistics but as you pointed out about the derailing... let's start it's own discussion, if you like.

    Absolutely.

  • Is this a demo mode limitation @ being unable to instantly recall saved presets in AUM without getting this message?

  • edited May 2025

    How much do you guys charge for your Albums?
    My last album took 2 years to make and it sells for £7.99

  • @algonquin said:
    How much do you guys charge for your Albums?
    My last album took 2 years to make and it sells for £7.99

    Brings to mind that probably wrong notion that the people who always got rich during the gold rushes were the spade salesmen…

  • @Edward_Alexander said:

    @Stuntman_mike said:

    @echoopera said:

    @Stuntman_mike said:

    @reezygle said:

    @echoopera said:

    @Coloobar said:
    This is Marketing strategy 101... what if the dev could be getting 20 buyers at $20 for every 1 he's getting at $60? Is his motive to make money or to keep this an elite product?

    I think his motive is to sell the app for what he thinks it is worth. $60 for 3 supported platforms seems fair to me.

    It’s a very specialized tool and i don’t think it’s for everyone. It’s really for midi nerds with hardware and software synths who enjoy the process of routing all the note data to various places.

    Everyone can use a hammer, but not everyone needs a nail gun.

    I completely agree. For me it’s about how much joy I can get out of it. I can go watch 3 movies for about the same price as this app. I’m not a movie guy. So for an old tech nerd like me with a love for making noise, and hooking things up together, it’s worth it. I’ve had so much fun with Fugue Machine over the years.

    I am going to get it but will wait to see if there is a special upgrade price before it goes full price in July.

    Is the special upgrade price not showing for you yet?

    It should be there. It showed up as $50 for me. I've had Fugue Machine since Day one...so I must have gotten it for pennies back in the day...The Bundle should take into account what the user paid for the original FM, and deduct that amount—at least that's what he said on IG.

    Again, I highly suggest users try the TestFlight versions of the app to determine if it's something you can benefit from and enjoy. It's a super specialized tool. This isn't just a Midi Sequencer...it's so much more imho.

    Yeah, I think I got the original app really cheap so a discount wasn’t gonna help me much 😂
    Here is my test drive of Fugue Rubato, I feel like I channeled Brazil a little:

    Interesting! Sounds great!

    I haven’t even thought about using multiple instances of FMR. How many play heads are you using in each instance?

    Thank you @Edward_Alexander!
    I’m using 1 three times for the SWAM Upright Bass, Pianoteq Guitar (Chord) and Pianoteq Rhodes, 1 for Pianoteq Guitar (Arpeggio), 1 to trigger Borsta and the 4th instance in this session is still unused so far.

  • @Krupa said:

    @algonquin said:
    How much do you guys charge for your Albums?
    My last album took 2 years to make and it sells for £7.99

    Brings to mind that probably wrong notion that the people who always got rich during the gold rushes were the spade salesmen…

    👍

  • edited May 2025

    Not seeing it in the description but can you record midi notes into it?
    The original you can’t. The only feature I was hoping for.

  • @Stuntman_mike said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @Stuntman_mike said:

    @echoopera said:

    @Stuntman_mike said:

    @reezygle said:

    @echoopera said:

    @Coloobar said:
    This is Marketing strategy 101... what if the dev could be getting 20 buyers at $20 for every 1 he's getting at $60? Is his motive to make money or to keep this an elite product?

    I think his motive is to sell the app for what he thinks it is worth. $60 for 3 supported platforms seems fair to me.

    It’s a very specialized tool and i don’t think it’s for everyone. It’s really for midi nerds with hardware and software synths who enjoy the process of routing all the note data to various places.

    Everyone can use a hammer, but not everyone needs a nail gun.

    I completely agree. For me it’s about how much joy I can get out of it. I can go watch 3 movies for about the same price as this app. I’m not a movie guy. So for an old tech nerd like me with a love for making noise, and hooking things up together, it’s worth it. I’ve had so much fun with Fugue Machine over the years.

    I am going to get it but will wait to see if there is a special upgrade price before it goes full price in July.

    Is the special upgrade price not showing for you yet?

    It should be there. It showed up as $50 for me. I've had Fugue Machine since Day one...so I must have gotten it for pennies back in the day...The Bundle should take into account what the user paid for the original FM, and deduct that amount—at least that's what he said on IG.

    Again, I highly suggest users try the TestFlight versions of the app to determine if it's something you can benefit from and enjoy. It's a super specialized tool. This isn't just a Midi Sequencer...it's so much more imho.

    Yeah, I think I got the original app really cheap so a discount wasn’t gonna help me much 😂
    Here is my test drive of Fugue Rubato, I feel like I channeled Brazil a little:

    Interesting! Sounds great!

    I haven’t even thought about using multiple instances of FMR. How many play heads are you using in each instance?

    Thank you @Edward_Alexander!
    I’m using 1 three times for the SWAM Upright Bass, Pianoteq Guitar (Chord) and Pianoteq Rhodes, 1 for Pianoteq Guitar (Arpeggio), 1 to trigger Borsta and the 4th instance in this session is still unused so far.

    Nice!

    It’s great that we have the ability to use multiple instances of this, because as you know, and even with the classic version of Fugue Machine, we work with only the one set of notes on the grid. The “magic” happens with the multiple play heads and their interplay with each other.

    At least that was my understanding of this up until last night, when I figured out (by studying some of @Alexandernaut ’s included presets) that we can actually split up the play heads vertically. So unlike FM Classic, each play head can be positioned vertically upon the Y axis, which means we can have one play head playing a totally different set of notes than the next play head.

    And I think it’s natural of us to view the note grid as a “piano roll” of sorts, but it’s really not. It’s easy to assume the notes at the bottom of the grid produce lower pitches, and as we move up, the notes at the top of grid are of higher pitches. To the contrary, with the ability to customize each of the play heads, and vertically separate them, we could have drums and/or a bass line for example at the very top of the grid, and a higher pitch lead instrument being played by a play head at the bottom, or wherever we choose.

    In other words, there’s so much that can be done with just a single instance, especially when utilizing the multiple MIDI output channels.

    And please don't get me wrong @Stuntman_mike as I’m not knocking your piece; It’s beautiful, and when we’re making music, it doesn’t matter what we use, it’s the end result in what we produce, and the music we hear that matters. But when I think of this type of usage, an analogy comes to mind that you’re bringing an entire mechanic’s toolbox full of tools out to remove just one Philips head screw. 😅

    I’m just more or less sharing and/or documenting my thoughts on the capabilities of this amazing sequencer!

  • @Stuntman_mike said:

    @echoopera said:

    @Stuntman_mike said:

    @reezygle said:

    @echoopera said:

    @Coloobar said:
    This is Marketing strategy 101... what if the dev could be getting 20 buyers at $20 for every 1 he's getting at $60? Is his motive to make money or to keep this an elite product?

    I think his motive is to sell the app for what he thinks it is worth. $60 for 3 supported platforms seems fair to me.

    It’s a very specialized tool and i don’t think it’s for everyone. It’s really for midi nerds with hardware and software synths who enjoy the process of routing all the note data to various places.

    Everyone can use a hammer, but not everyone needs a nail gun.

    I completely agree. For me it’s about how much joy I can get out of it. I can go watch 3 movies for about the same price as this app. I’m not a movie guy. So for an old tech nerd like me with a love for making noise, and hooking things up together, it’s worth it. I’ve had so much fun with Fugue Machine over the years.

    I am going to get it but will wait to see if there is a special upgrade price before it goes full price in July.

    Is the special upgrade price not showing for you yet?

    It should be there. It showed up as $50 for me. I've had Fugue Machine since Day one...so I must have gotten it for pennies back in the day...The Bundle should take into account what the user paid for the original FM, and deduct that amount—at least that's what he said on IG.

    Again, I highly suggest users try the TestFlight versions of the app to determine if it's something you can benefit from and enjoy. It's a super specialized tool. This isn't just a Midi Sequencer...it's so much more imho.

    Yeah, I think I got the original app really cheap so a discount wasn’t gonna help me much 😂
    Here is my test drive of Fugue Rubato, I feel like I channeled Brazil a little:

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @Stuntman_mike said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @Stuntman_mike said:

    @echoopera said:

    @Stuntman_mike said:

    @reezygle said:

    @echoopera said:

    @Coloobar said:
    This is Marketing strategy 101... what if the dev could be getting 20 buyers at $20 for every 1 he's getting at $60? Is his motive to make money or to keep this an elite product?

    I think his motive is to sell the app for what he thinks it is worth. $60 for 3 supported platforms seems fair to me.

    It’s a very specialized tool and i don’t think it’s for everyone. It’s really for midi nerds with hardware and software synths who enjoy the process of routing all the note data to various places.

    Everyone can use a hammer, but not everyone needs a nail gun.

    I completely agree. For me it’s about how much joy I can get out of it. I can go watch 3 movies for about the same price as this app. I’m not a movie guy. So for an old tech nerd like me with a love for making noise, and hooking things up together, it’s worth it. I’ve had so much fun with Fugue Machine over the years.

    I am going to get it but will wait to see if there is a special upgrade price before it goes full price in July.

    Is the special upgrade price not showing for you yet?

    It should be there. It showed up as $50 for me. I've had Fugue Machine since Day one...so I must have gotten it for pennies back in the day...The Bundle should take into account what the user paid for the original FM, and deduct that amount—at least that's what he said on IG.

    Again, I highly suggest users try the TestFlight versions of the app to determine if it's something you can benefit from and enjoy. It's a super specialized tool. This isn't just a Midi Sequencer...it's so much more imho.

    Yeah, I think I got the original app really cheap so a discount wasn’t gonna help me much 😂
    Here is my test drive of Fugue Rubato, I feel like I channeled Brazil a little:

    Interesting! Sounds great!

    I haven’t even thought about using multiple instances of FMR. How many play heads are you using in each instance?

    Thank you @Edward_Alexander!
    I’m using 1 three times for the SWAM Upright Bass, Pianoteq Guitar (Chord) and Pianoteq Rhodes, 1 for Pianoteq Guitar (Arpeggio), 1 to trigger Borsta and the 4th instance in this session is still unused so far.

    Nice!

    It’s great that we have the ability to use multiple instances of this, because as you know, and even with the classic version of Fugue Machine, we work with only the one set of notes on the grid. The “magic” happens with the multiple play heads and their interplay with each other.

    At least that was my understanding of this up until last night, when I figured out (by studying some of @Alexandernaut ’s included presets) that we can actually split up the play heads vertically. So unlike FM Classic, each play head can be positioned vertically upon the Y axis, which means we can have one play head playing a totally different set of notes than the next play head.

    And I think it’s natural of us to view the note grid as a “piano roll” of sorts, but it’s really not. It’s easy to assume the notes at the bottom of the grid produce lower pitches, and as we move up, the notes at the top of grid are of higher pitches. To the contrary, with the ability to customize each of the play heads, and vertically separate them, we could have drums and/or a bass line for example at the very top of the grid, and a higher pitch lead instrument being played by a play head at the bottom, or wherever we choose.

    In other words, there’s so much that can be done with just a single instance, especially when utilizing the multiple MIDI output channels.

    And please don't get me wrong @Stuntman_mike as I’m not knocking your piece; It’s beautiful, and when we’re making music, it doesn’t matter what we use, it’s the end result in what we produce, and the music we hear that matters. But when I think of this type of usage, an analogy comes to mind that you’re bringing an entire mechanic’s toolbox full of tools out to remove just one Philips head screw. 😅

    I’m just more or less sharing and/or documenting my thoughts on the capabilities of this amazing sequencer!

    My wallet: “stop talking squishy into buying this!” 😤

  • @Edward_Alexander said:

    @Stuntman_mike said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @Stuntman_mike said:

    @echoopera said:

    @Stuntman_mike said:

    @reezygle said:

    @echoopera said:

    @Coloobar said:
    This is Marketing strategy 101... what if the dev could be getting 20 buyers at $20 for every 1 he's getting at $60? Is his motive to make money or to keep this an elite product?

    I think his motive is to sell the app for what he thinks it is worth. $60 for 3 supported platforms seems fair to me.

    It’s a very specialized tool and i don’t think it’s for everyone. It’s really for midi nerds with hardware and software synths who enjoy the process of routing all the note data to various places.

    Everyone can use a hammer, but not everyone needs a nail gun.

    I completely agree. For me it’s about how much joy I can get out of it. I can go watch 3 movies for about the same price as this app. I’m not a movie guy. So for an old tech nerd like me with a love for making noise, and hooking things up together, it’s worth it. I’ve had so much fun with Fugue Machine over the years.

    I am going to get it but will wait to see if there is a special upgrade price before it goes full price in July.

    Is the special upgrade price not showing for you yet?

    It should be there. It showed up as $50 for me. I've had Fugue Machine since Day one...so I must have gotten it for pennies back in the day...The Bundle should take into account what the user paid for the original FM, and deduct that amount—at least that's what he said on IG.

    Again, I highly suggest users try the TestFlight versions of the app to determine if it's something you can benefit from and enjoy. It's a super specialized tool. This isn't just a Midi Sequencer...it's so much more imho.

    Yeah, I think I got the original app really cheap so a discount wasn’t gonna help me much 😂
    Here is my test drive of Fugue Rubato, I feel like I channeled Brazil a little:

    Interesting! Sounds great!

    I haven’t even thought about using multiple instances of FMR. How many play heads are you using in each instance?

    Thank you @Edward_Alexander!
    I’m using 1 three times for the SWAM Upright Bass, Pianoteq Guitar (Chord) and Pianoteq Rhodes, 1 for Pianoteq Guitar (Arpeggio), 1 to trigger Borsta and the 4th instance in this session is still unused so far.

    Nice!

    It’s great that we have the ability to use multiple instances of this, because as you know, and even with the classic version of Fugue Machine, we work with only the one set of notes on the grid. The “magic” happens with the multiple play heads and their interplay with each other.

    At least that was my understanding of this up until last night, when I figured out (by studying some of @Alexandernaut ’s included presets) that we can actually split up the play heads vertically. So unlike FM Classic, each play head can be positioned vertically upon the Y axis, which means we can have one play head playing a totally different set of notes than the next play head.

    And I think it’s natural of us to view the note grid as a “piano roll” of sorts, but it’s really not. It’s easy to assume the notes at the bottom of the grid produce lower pitches, and as we move up, the notes at the top of grid are of higher pitches. To the contrary, with the ability to customize each of the play heads, and vertically separate them, we could have drums and/or a bass line for example at the very top of the grid, and a higher pitch lead instrument being played by a play head at the bottom, or wherever we choose.

    In other words, there’s so much that can be done with just a single instance, especially when utilizing the multiple MIDI output channels.

    And please don't get me wrong @Stuntman_mike as I’m not knocking your piece; It’s beautiful, and when we’re making music, it doesn’t matter what we use, it’s the end result in what we produce, and the music we hear that matters. But when I think of this type of usage, an analogy comes to mind that you’re bringing an entire mechanic’s toolbox full of tools out to remove just one Philips head screw. 😅

    I’m just more or less sharing and/or documenting my thoughts on the capabilities of this amazing sequencer!

    For sure, I’ve personally only scratched the very minimal surface of this tool! As I tinker with it, my mind is bouncing all over lol I know once I start thinking about this plugin during my daily walks I will start streamlining ideas into ways to do things that will level up my workflow. This is the kind of tool that is a true game changer in the right hands because it approaches an old idea in a novel way 💥

  • edited May 2025

    @Squishy said:

    @Stuntman_mike said:

    @echoopera said:

    @Stuntman_mike said:

    @reezygle said:

    @echoopera said:

    @Coloobar said:
    This is Marketing strategy 101... what if the dev could be getting 20 buyers at $20 for every 1 he's getting at $60? Is his motive to make money or to keep this an elite product?

    I think his motive is to sell the app for what he thinks it is worth. $60 for 3 supported platforms seems fair to me.

    It’s a very specialized tool and i don’t think it’s for everyone. It’s really for midi nerds with hardware and software synths who enjoy the process of routing all the note data to various places.

    Everyone can use a hammer, but not everyone needs a nail gun.

    I completely agree. For me it’s about how much joy I can get out of it. I can go watch 3 movies for about the same price as this app. I’m not a movie guy. So for an old tech nerd like me with a love for making noise, and hooking things up together, it’s worth it. I’ve had so much fun with Fugue Machine over the years.

    I am going to get it but will wait to see if there is a special upgrade price before it goes full price in July.

    Is the special upgrade price not showing for you yet?

    It should be there. It showed up as $50 for me. I've had Fugue Machine since Day one...so I must have gotten it for pennies back in the day...The Bundle should take into account what the user paid for the original FM, and deduct that amount—at least that's what he said on IG.

    Again, I highly suggest users try the TestFlight versions of the app to determine if it's something you can benefit from and enjoy. It's a super specialized tool. This isn't just a Midi Sequencer...it's so much more imho.

    Yeah, I think I got the original app really cheap so a discount wasn’t gonna help me much 😂
    Here is my test drive of Fugue Rubato, I feel like I channeled Brazil a little:

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @Stuntman_mike said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @Stuntman_mike said:

    @echoopera said:

    @Stuntman_mike said:

    @reezygle said:

    @echoopera said:

    @Coloobar said:
    This is Marketing strategy 101... what if the dev could be getting 20 buyers at $20 for every 1 he's getting at $60? Is his motive to make money or to keep this an elite product?

    I think his motive is to sell the app for what he thinks it is worth. $60 for 3 supported platforms seems fair to me.

    It’s a very specialized tool and i don’t think it’s for everyone. It’s really for midi nerds with hardware and software synths who enjoy the process of routing all the note data to various places.

    Everyone can use a hammer, but not everyone needs a nail gun.

    I completely agree. For me it’s about how much joy I can get out of it. I can go watch 3 movies for about the same price as this app. I’m not a movie guy. So for an old tech nerd like me with a love for making noise, and hooking things up together, it’s worth it. I’ve had so much fun with Fugue Machine over the years.

    I am going to get it but will wait to see if there is a special upgrade price before it goes full price in July.

    Is the special upgrade price not showing for you yet?

    It should be there. It showed up as $50 for me. I've had Fugue Machine since Day one...so I must have gotten it for pennies back in the day...The Bundle should take into account what the user paid for the original FM, and deduct that amount—at least that's what he said on IG.

    Again, I highly suggest users try the TestFlight versions of the app to determine if it's something you can benefit from and enjoy. It's a super specialized tool. This isn't just a Midi Sequencer...it's so much more imho.

    Yeah, I think I got the original app really cheap so a discount wasn’t gonna help me much 😂
    Here is my test drive of Fugue Rubato, I feel like I channeled Brazil a little:

    Interesting! Sounds great!

    I haven’t even thought about using multiple instances of FMR. How many play heads are you using in each instance?

    Thank you @Edward_Alexander!
    I’m using 1 three times for the SWAM Upright Bass, Pianoteq Guitar (Chord) and Pianoteq Rhodes, 1 for Pianoteq Guitar (Arpeggio), 1 to trigger Borsta and the 4th instance in this session is still unused so far.

    Nice!

    It’s great that we have the ability to use multiple instances of this, because as you know, and even with the classic version of Fugue Machine, we work with only the one set of notes on the grid. The “magic” happens with the multiple play heads and their interplay with each other.

    At least that was my understanding of this up until last night, when I figured out (by studying some of @Alexandernaut ’s included presets) that we can actually split up the play heads vertically. So unlike FM Classic, each play head can be positioned vertically upon the Y axis, which means we can have one play head playing a totally different set of notes than the next play head.

    And I think it’s natural of us to view the note grid as a “piano roll” of sorts, but it’s really not. It’s easy to assume the notes at the bottom of the grid produce lower pitches, and as we move up, the notes at the top of grid are of higher pitches. To the contrary, with the ability to customize each of the play heads, and vertically separate them, we could have drums and/or a bass line for example at the very top of the grid, and a higher pitch lead instrument being played by a play head at the bottom, or wherever we choose.

    In other words, there’s so much that can be done with just a single instance, especially when utilizing the multiple MIDI output channels.

    And please don't get me wrong @Stuntman_mike as I’m not knocking your piece; It’s beautiful, and when we’re making music, it doesn’t matter what we use, it’s the end result in what we produce, and the music we hear that matters. But when I think of this type of usage, an analogy comes to mind that you’re bringing an entire mechanic’s toolbox full of tools out to remove just one Philips head screw. 😅

    I’m just more or less sharing and/or documenting my thoughts on the capabilities of this amazing sequencer!

    My wallet: “stop talking squishy into buying this!” 😤

    “Just do it @Squishy” says your frontal lobe lol
    “…think about all the new ways we will be able to think musically if we buy this and lock ourselves in a room with it for the weekend”

  • @hibjshop said:
    Not seeing it in the description but can you record midi notes into it?
    The original you can’t. The only feature I was hoping for.

    Nope. This is a different kind of sequencer. You want a piano roll sequencer (like Atom 2 or Helium), where the midi “performances” are what you record, and that’s what gets used to drive your instruments.

    This is different. It only takes a few note triggers on the grid, then it’s all about the play heads and the play head modifiers.

    With this, you could actually compose an entire production with a single note placed on the grid.

  • @Stuntman_mike said:

    @Squishy said:

    @Stuntman_mike said:

    @echoopera said:

    @Stuntman_mike said:

    @reezygle said:

    @echoopera said:

    @Coloobar said:
    This is Marketing strategy 101... what if the dev could be getting 20 buyers at $20 for every 1 he's getting at $60? Is his motive to make money or to keep this an elite product?

    I think his motive is to sell the app for what he thinks it is worth. $60 for 3 supported platforms seems fair to me.

    It’s a very specialized tool and i don’t think it’s for everyone. It’s really for midi nerds with hardware and software synths who enjoy the process of routing all the note data to various places.

    Everyone can use a hammer, but not everyone needs a nail gun.

    I completely agree. For me it’s about how much joy I can get out of it. I can go watch 3 movies for about the same price as this app. I’m not a movie guy. So for an old tech nerd like me with a love for making noise, and hooking things up together, it’s worth it. I’ve had so much fun with Fugue Machine over the years.

    I am going to get it but will wait to see if there is a special upgrade price before it goes full price in July.

    Is the special upgrade price not showing for you yet?

    It should be there. It showed up as $50 for me. I've had Fugue Machine since Day one...so I must have gotten it for pennies back in the day...The Bundle should take into account what the user paid for the original FM, and deduct that amount—at least that's what he said on IG.

    Again, I highly suggest users try the TestFlight versions of the app to determine if it's something you can benefit from and enjoy. It's a super specialized tool. This isn't just a Midi Sequencer...it's so much more imho.

    Yeah, I think I got the original app really cheap so a discount wasn’t gonna help me much 😂
    Here is my test drive of Fugue Rubato, I feel like I channeled Brazil a little:

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @Stuntman_mike said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @Stuntman_mike said:

    @echoopera said:

    @Stuntman_mike said:

    @reezygle said:

    @echoopera said:

    @Coloobar said:
    This is Marketing strategy 101... what if the dev could be getting 20 buyers at $20 for every 1 he's getting at $60? Is his motive to make money or to keep this an elite product?

    I think his motive is to sell the app for what he thinks it is worth. $60 for 3 supported platforms seems fair to me.

    It’s a very specialized tool and i don’t think it’s for everyone. It’s really for midi nerds with hardware and software synths who enjoy the process of routing all the note data to various places.

    Everyone can use a hammer, but not everyone needs a nail gun.

    I completely agree. For me it’s about how much joy I can get out of it. I can go watch 3 movies for about the same price as this app. I’m not a movie guy. So for an old tech nerd like me with a love for making noise, and hooking things up together, it’s worth it. I’ve had so much fun with Fugue Machine over the years.

    I am going to get it but will wait to see if there is a special upgrade price before it goes full price in July.

    Is the special upgrade price not showing for you yet?

    It should be there. It showed up as $50 for me. I've had Fugue Machine since Day one...so I must have gotten it for pennies back in the day...The Bundle should take into account what the user paid for the original FM, and deduct that amount—at least that's what he said on IG.

    Again, I highly suggest users try the TestFlight versions of the app to determine if it's something you can benefit from and enjoy. It's a super specialized tool. This isn't just a Midi Sequencer...it's so much more imho.

    Yeah, I think I got the original app really cheap so a discount wasn’t gonna help me much 😂
    Here is my test drive of Fugue Rubato, I feel like I channeled Brazil a little:

    Interesting! Sounds great!

    I haven’t even thought about using multiple instances of FMR. How many play heads are you using in each instance?

    Thank you @Edward_Alexander!
    I’m using 1 three times for the SWAM Upright Bass, Pianoteq Guitar (Chord) and Pianoteq Rhodes, 1 for Pianoteq Guitar (Arpeggio), 1 to trigger Borsta and the 4th instance in this session is still unused so far.

    Nice!

    It’s great that we have the ability to use multiple instances of this, because as you know, and even with the classic version of Fugue Machine, we work with only the one set of notes on the grid. The “magic” happens with the multiple play heads and their interplay with each other.

    At least that was my understanding of this up until last night, when I figured out (by studying some of @Alexandernaut ’s included presets) that we can actually split up the play heads vertically. So unlike FM Classic, each play head can be positioned vertically upon the Y axis, which means we can have one play head playing a totally different set of notes than the next play head.

    And I think it’s natural of us to view the note grid as a “piano roll” of sorts, but it’s really not. It’s easy to assume the notes at the bottom of the grid produce lower pitches, and as we move up, the notes at the top of grid are of higher pitches. To the contrary, with the ability to customize each of the play heads, and vertically separate them, we could have drums and/or a bass line for example at the very top of the grid, and a higher pitch lead instrument being played by a play head at the bottom, or wherever we choose.

    In other words, there’s so much that can be done with just a single instance, especially when utilizing the multiple MIDI output channels.

    And please don't get me wrong @Stuntman_mike as I’m not knocking your piece; It’s beautiful, and when we’re making music, it doesn’t matter what we use, it’s the end result in what we produce, and the music we hear that matters. But when I think of this type of usage, an analogy comes to mind that you’re bringing an entire mechanic’s toolbox full of tools out to remove just one Philips head screw. 😅

    I’m just more or less sharing and/or documenting my thoughts on the capabilities of this amazing sequencer!

    My wallet: “stop talking squishy into buying this!” 😤

    “Just do it @Squishy” says your frontal lobe lol
    “…think about all the new ways we will be able to think musically if we buy this and lock ourselves in a room with it for the weekend”

    Do it @Squishy !

    Seriously, my significant other yesterday was like “are you gonna get off that damn iPad sometime today?!”😆

  • lol @Edward_Alexander do it! Before their mind changes!!

  • @Edward_Alexander said:

    @hibjshop said:
    Not seeing it in the description but can you record midi notes into it?
    The original you can’t. The only feature I was hoping for.

    Nope. This is a different kind of sequencer. You want a piano roll sequencer (like Atom 2 or Helium), where the midi “performances” are what you record, and that’s what gets used to drive your instruments.

    This is different. It only takes a few note triggers on the grid, then it’s all about the play heads and the play head modifiers.

    With this, you could actually compose an entire production with a single note placed on the grid.

    I still always thought it would be nice to play your own lines directly into fugue machine, I'm surprised that wasn't added. I totally get your point that this doesn't have to do all the things a piano roll does, but often recording something in is faster, at least for me, and it is also humanized right out of the box.

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