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Hoping not to step in the middle of a disagreement between two others, but this comment intrigued me regarding my own feelings.
I have empathy, but I'm also fatalistic about this. It is going to happen. It's unstoppable.
I just can't bring myself to expend mental or emotional energy against something when I don't believe it will accomplish anything. It seems to help people feel like they're doing something, so more power to them, and to you. Sincerely.
But I simply can't relate to that.
I can despise something while accepting I can't make it go away. I can have empathy toward those who it will hurt. But I'm at the acceptance stage, so my mental and emotional energy feels best directed at how to adapt to the new reality and maybe think of ways to help others. Fat chance of that but at least that's better to me than wasting energy on rueing the inevitable.
That'll probably come off sounding like a criticism of people not of my same mind. I honestly don't mean it that way. It's just my personal outlook that your comment helped me better understand.
-There's "no need for generative AI"? That's false. There is massive demand for these services. They cannot keep up with demand.
-Everyone will "get richer" because generative/A.I. services will continue to trend toward no cost to the user and it will provide more computing power than a person today can even imagine. Its utility is clearly demonstrated by the levels of investment we're seeing today. Hundreds of billions of dollars from companies and governments (2025 estimate: $600-750 billion globally).
-People will be lifted up due to their increased access to these services. Poorer countries benefit from large investments in technology (see: iPhones and "smartphones" in general, satellites, pharmaceuticals, gene therapy, etc.).
-I don't work for and I am not a stealth representative for any of the companies in question. And personal attacks are just bad form. Let's be civil to each other, please.
Thanks for your understanding. But I also hope that I've not discouraged you from standing on your beliefs. Nothing good, and everything bad is also inevitable without poets and revolutionaries making a stand.
When the shit hits the fan regarding climate change (going on the scientific consensus), such finger pointing and ‘those others aren’t going to do it so why should we’ attitude, such fatalistic submission to the ‘inevitable’ will seem so facile. We will all desperately wish we could go back in time and all see if it can be avoided (and maybe it can’t but better to try than not, isn’t it?).
But, then again, some people got lots and lots of money to make, so fuck it, clearly my priorities are all wrong!
Not that anyone has crossed any lines but ...
I think veering off toward climate change will be a pretty hard exit from the topic at hand (impact of AI on music careers). If that discussion is going to expand, I'd like to suggest starting a discussion in the Other category, before the flagged posts start rolling in. It could be a great conversation and anyone is free to go as political as they like over there.
How 'bout it eh? Give your friendly moderators a break from having to ... er ... moderate?
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I was wondering when someone would start crying about politics 🙄
My friend listed an oil painting of The Titanic on eBay.
eBay asked her if she wanted it to generate an Ai description. She clicked "yes". This is what is came up with:
"Delve into the sombre elegance of the Titanic with this original oil painting from the 1950s. The artwork offers a nostalgic glimpse into a bygone era, capturing the essence of the iconic ship in rich, vibrant hues that bring the tragedy and grandeur of the Titanic to life. Ideal for collectors and history enthusiasts alike, this piece stands as a testament to the enduring legacy of one of the most infamous maritime events. While the originating region remains a mystery, the painting's authentic charm is undeniable, making it a striking addition to any collection or décor."
I was pretty impressed, considering it didn't have much data about the painting to work with.
A leading AI CEO is warning the tech could cause mass unemployment:
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/05/29/tech/ai-anthropic-ceo-dario-amodei-unemployment
This is an interesting Reddit thread on this topic. Read the comments, though, not just the title, or you'll get the wrong end of the stick:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Layoffs/comments/1kwkmmg/article_why_ai_hasnt_taken_your_job_and_any/
It has data from loads of listings of other oil paintings of The Titanic, and is consolidating those listings into this 'new' one.
I won't buy any art that has had the tAInt
Considering the huge lawsuits already brought against this company, I can see why he’s attempting to draw attention away from those outstanding cases:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropic
I’ll start worrying the day that AI comes up with truly novel stories by itself, or when it can create full games beyond simple tech demos or narrow scope applications. I doubt the next Skrillex or Bob Dylan will come from AI.
Yeah, I kinda guessed that. I didn't think Ai "looked" at the painting, was moved and waxed lyrical. I'm still impressed though (I'm probably easy to impress as I don't know anything about Ai)
I was using it at a company for the past four years and found panicking humans caused way more damage and distress because of it than the AI tools ever did. If people came together and worked effectively to leverage them I believe something great could have been made. It brings out the worst out in a lot of people, particularly if they lack self awareness. Megalomaniacs get worse, conspiracy nuts get more crazy, lazy fatalistic people get even more so, the beret wearing elitists get more snotty etc. It divides people.
As for solo acts I don't see genuine singer songwriter types getting far with it (unless they are just vapid tick tock crooners which I guess can be successful) but I could totally see a Skrillex type using this stuff effectively.
Everyone is free to voice their opinions and I respect that. And I don't endorse launching into personal attacks on others for having a difference in opinion. Believe it or not.
Could the flood of AI in music automation circle back to live performances being a more sought after experience? Even if just tapping kick snare patterns, seeing someone do that while tapping their foot feels a lot more human than generative beats would.
That's what I've said also. A live performance is a magical thing involving give and take with the audience. Recorded music is a completely different thing.
I expect so. If somehow the price of draught beer came down… that would help things along nicely.
I think there always will be a market for live musicians no matter how good AI gets, and it’s getting good. I’m a full time live acoustic musician/singer. That special connection and interaction with a real-time performer and the audience just can’t be faked. Still, I wouldn’t be surprised if someday people will pay $150 to go hear robots playing in an orchestra. I won’t be one of them, $150 is a lot of money to a full time musician.
You’re right about live performances. Interestingly enough, people are also willing to pay for an unusual live experience with fake performers.
See: Hatsune Miku (a generated anime singer that has toured extensively).
See also ABBA as virtual performers, the virtual Elvis, "hologram" Tupac Shakur and others. I think the market keeps finding new ways to best exploit what tech is available now.
Come to think of it, I recall a fake Beatles cover band that was quite popular when I was growing up, but they were real people.
Absolutely! I actually wish I had invested more time on my playing skills over the years than digital production.
I'm seeing more locations offering live music to attract customers. Even a local out of the way coffee and pastry shop has recently begun offering live music two days a week. These are places that didn't have music pre Covid, so it's more than just recovering from lockdown. I hope it's a trend.
You know what I could really go for? Some place that has an artist doing live painting sessions. I would find that even more relaxing and entertaining than music I think.
I'm seriously feeling an increasingly strong attraction back to authentic live performance interaction. I feel like I'm not alone in that. I hope so.
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