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Spinoff thread from “Fight/Flight (An Anti-Ice Rap Track)”
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When I see people who look like me, being harassed on the street on no other basis than looking like and talking like me and my family, one doesn't have to be a rocket scientist to realize that it could happen to us. Maybe if you rub those two neurons of yours together, you might put 2 + 2 together.
Also, I'd love to know when people were stopped on the street by the government, demanding proof of citizenship, for being MAGA.
Actually, no, do me a favor and don't tag me again.
As far as I know, Trump has better approval ratings than any person in government or branch of government.
And what “hateful comments” are you talking about? I don’t hate anyone here.
Ah, here we go with the personal insults. Why is that the default setting for responses here?
With the assistance of one of the friendly neighborhood AI’s I’ve collated just a few of the real-world attacks (verbal and physical) on conservatives by radicalized Leftists.
January 4, 2021: Leftist protesters from ShutDownDC gathered outside Sen. Josh Hawley's (R-MO) home in Virginia, chanting threats and using bullhorns while his wife and newborn were inside, protesting his election challenge.
July 24, 2021: Fox News host Tucker Carlson, a prominent conservative, was verbally accosted and harassed by a man in a Montana fishing store who called him "the worst human being known to man" in front of his family.
June 8, 2022: Nicholas John Roske was arrested near Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh's home in Maryland, armed with a gun, knife, and zip ties, intending to assassinate him over anger about the Roe v. Wade draft leak and gun rulings.
June 25, 2022: Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) was confronted and harassed by gun control activists at a Houston restaurant, with protesters shouting and surrounding him during dinner following the Uvalde shooting.
May-June 2022: Multiple leftist pro-abortion protesters gathered repeatedly outside the homes of conservative Supreme Court justices like Samuel Alito, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett in the D.C. area, chanting threats and creating security concerns after the Roe v. Wade leak.
March 14, 2023: Conservative activist Charlie Kirk and event attendees were assaulted by leftist protesters at a Turning Point USA event at UC Davis, with eggs thrown, doors broken, and physical scuffles breaking out.
April 6, 2023: Conservative swimmer and women's sports advocate Riley Gaines was physically assaulted, punched, and chased by trans rights activists at San Francisco State University after a speech criticizing transgender athletes in women's competitions.
July 13, 2024: Former President Donald Trump, a conservative leader, survived an assassination attempt at a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, by Thomas Matthew Crooks, whose motives remain unclear but included a donation to a progressive group amid heated anti-Trump rhetoric.
September 15, 2024: Former President Donald Trump was targeted in a second assassination attempt at his Florida golf course by Ryan Wesley Routh, an anti-Trump activist with a history of supporting Democratic causes and criticizing conservatives online.
December 4, 2024: UnitedHealth CEO Brian Thompson, viewed by some as a symbol of conservative corporate interests, was assassinated in New York City by Luigi Mangione, who left a manifesto railing against healthcare profiteering in a leftist-leaning critique.
And of course, one of the most notable recent events, not during the last administration was the very public murder of speaker Charlie Kirk (not someone I followed or endorsed, but he was killed for his opinions).
Dismissing all criticisms from the left and saying anyone who protests this is “not a normal person” and violence against them is justified are pretty concerning. I also think dismissing any moral arguments due to the letter of the law isn’t a great look (“it’s technically legal to shoot her three times point blank if the officer felt threatened”). And arguments of what happened with prior administrations means nothing to me because I’m not a loyalist to any politician. I don’t care if Clinton, Trump, Gates, Gandhi or Mother Theresa committed debauchery at Epstein’s island - it would terrible no matter who you are.
He literally said the hateful comment was the “no quarter” one.
And if you hate leftists then anyone on the left would by default be someone you hate.
Saying “no quarter” as a response to being lied to and attacked by radical Leftists is not hateful. It is my guess as to what kind of responses those radicals should expect. In other words, people likely do not care about the hyperventilating opinions anymore.
You’re making things up. I already said I don’t hate anyone here.
“but I think many are generally not open to any criticisms from those on the political Left today because of what the Biden years and the Obama years yielded” followed by the no quarter remark in the same comment aren’t exactly warm and welcoming, and seems pretty charged towards anyone left leaning. You can restate it as no quarter for radicals, but that initial political left comment reads to me as you seeing anyone left of the aisle as not deserving any respect. Maybe that wasn’t the intent, but it’s not hard to make a logical transitive leap of ”leftists don’t deserve protection and do deserve violence” to “I hate leftists” (no quarter, which you’ve doubled down on so I don’t see that as poor choice of words but a deliberate statement of aggression).
I’m ready to hear what you think would be the acceptable response to verbal and physical abuse, property destruction, and vicious lies coordinated and spread by the media and propaganda departments of radical Left groups.
It’s also interesting to note that the Democrats of Bill Clinton’s era are now considered “not Left enough” for the current mainstream Left, which has drifted into actual Socialism (Mamdami, Sanders), Marxism (AOC, Harris, Newsom) and Communism (depending on the policies involved, any of the prior listed could fall into that camp at any given time).
And it’s even more interesting that “Bill Clinton Democrats” RFK, Jr. and Tulsi Gabbard were brought into the Trump administration because they weren’t radically Left enough for Democrats. And Elon Musk, who had repeatedly voted Democrat, was targeted by these radicals with numerous acts of property destruction and he found he had no choice but to vote Republican.
@NeuM Meanwhile in the rest of the world "left" means just more liberties and social care as a counterbalance to economy driven and traditional "right".
You seem to confuse a spectrum with a black and white scenario.
If immigrants and people are prosecuted it’s called fascism- and that can pop up as "radicalism" at the ends of the political spectrum and is then properly investigated by the actual law because radicalism DOESN'T walk with democracy. EXCEPT it sneaks into already established systems like back in '33 or right now under your nose. It’s called fascism everywhere in the world except in the heads of fascists 🫰🏻
You’re not open to objective evidence, not even the one provided by your own government (as they still have to be transparent about the actual immigration numbers).
If you want to just ride along because you feel entitled to, instead of listening to science and evidential numbers, suit yourself.
I am not shunning you. It’s as I sung: Shame no longer fuels compassion and integrity.
You decide what kind of future the next generations will have…at least until your freedom to do so is taken away
But the statement wasn’t about radical leftists until later comments - it was about the political left. I figured that would include individuals around here who consider themselves politically left but you may have just meant leftist politicians or radicals. How to handle them I’m not sure, but I don’t think I’d choose “round them up and kill them”.
Sorry if I misread that. I’m gonna assume your no quarter statement isn’t literal nor directed to anyone who leans left. That’s dangerous rhetoric regardless but hopefully it’s a misunderstanding on my end.
I'm not referring to the rest of the world. Europe has been far more liberal/Left than the US for a long time. In Germany, even what is considered on the "right" there is considered Left-leaning in the US.
The US has a controlled border and it's the function of the Federal government to enforce immigration laws. That is being done now. Less acknowledged today is that even Barack Obama had arrested, detained and deported millions of illegal aliens. Does that mean Obama was a "fascist" or whatever buzzword is fashionable this week?
Best available estimates put the number of illegal aliens and visa overstays in the US somewhere in the area of 33-35 million people. That is a destabilizing number of people who cannot be allowed to remain.
It's not "fascism" to enforce US immigration laws. It's only "fascism" to those who believe they or others are entitled to something they are not.
The "no quarter" statement is a very generic turn of phrase. In an all-encompassing sense, it simply means people are fed up and the excuses don't fly anymore. If I had meant something more pointed, I think you'd know it.
But the rest of the world is referring to you and if your government is violating the Genf convention the rest of the world HAS to intervene AS the US DID when Germany pulled the same crap 70 years ago facepalm
AS does every other country in Europe. But not with that brutality and insanity but regulations which guarantee the SAFETY of people.
Why? Are you ready to take over their jobs? Garbage cleaners, nurses, service worker?
It is fascism to shot people because of their skin color tho. The amount of itchy agent fingers causing deaths isn´t alarming for you? How often have you heard of cases of deaths because of random shootings at european borders?
Oh I´m entitled to my human rights, sure am.
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This is simply false. Even U.S. citizens have been detained. Many people have been detained and/or deported with no due process at all…and the government has violated a number of court orders aimed at preventing deportation without due process.
I post not to convince the person that made those claims but because false claims should not stand lest others repeat the claims as fact.
This claim is divorced from reality. Illegal immigration is universal. It doesn’t destroy nations.
In the case of the U.S., the immigration enforcement is openly discriminatory and governed by people that openly share their racist beliefs.
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Hmmm let’s see, why not follow the advice of the guy you all pretend to love so much? ☺️👍
"But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also". - Matthew 5:39
"To one who strikes you on the cheek, offer the other also, and from one who takes away your cloak do not withhold your tunic"- Luke 6:29
Another obvious ideological contradiction! 🙃
Assumptions like that are not your best argument. You assume I'm a Christian. You also seem to be assuming that the US Code (Federal law) and the Bible are the same thing. They're not. Federal law is based on the US Constitution, not the Bible.
No, even if you called yourself a christian I would obviously never see you as one in the first place! 😅
Which leads me back to the following contradictions in your statements/views/opinions:
Law + Order — January 6 Rioters
Small Government — Government Control
Free Market Capitalism — Protectionism + Populism
Anti-Elite Rhetoric — Worship of Billionaires
Defending Free Speech — Banning Books + Protest
Do you even acknowledge that you contradict yourself when you embrace all these opposing views simultaneously? 🤔
You continue to attempt to paint me as something I'm not. Why? Nothing can be gained from our interactions if you continue to do this. If you have a point to make or a political policy comment or idea, go ahead and say something about those things.
Because you already wrote in this thread that you defend and understand the Jan 6 Rioters and you also defend all the actions done by ICE - Even murder…
Law + Order — January 6 Rioters - see the contradiction now?
So if the police being assaulted on Jan 6 instead shot all the rioters to death in self-defense you would be ok with that, right?
Then there is of course ”Defending Free Speech — Banning Books + Protest” and all the other opposing views you embrace simultaneously - I mean are you not even aware how you contradict yourself? Kinda scary…
You obviously have no interest in discussing issues and want to attack me instead, so you're being blocked. Goodbye.
"Oh, no! He's violating my freedom of speech!"
Nope. This person will probably continue to post defamatory statements here.
Aaaaaaaw! 🥰🥰🥰
You've been hit by DARVO
LOL! ✌️😅
No. A personal attack (an ad hominem) is not an argument. It's a waste of time.
What is this supposed to prove? Minneapolis is drowning in corruption. And Tim Walz seems to be connected to it. People there have been identified as having stolen billions in Federal funds and there are going to be arrests and prosecutions very soon. Maybe they're trying to get out before the riots start. This would provide them with convenient cover to flee the massive crime scene that city has become.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/18/us/minnesota-fraud-scandal.html
Corruption is when you pardon your cronies and harass the innocent. Like Trump, who is the epitome of corruption.
Oh, and exactly who are the "innocent" in your estimation?