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  • They’re closer to xtian identitarians than actual xtians.

  • edited January 14

    @FizzyLizzy27 lol they are even copying the font the nazis choose for their propaganda until 41 in the tweet you shared. It’s not like they’re subtle with what they’re going for 🤪

  • I imagine that the president wears his daddy’s pointy white hat in bed.

  • One of the absolute benefits of your constitution is this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state_in_the_United_States
    and with religious statements like the one´s showing in the HS tweet it´s already broken...

    It was the same back then, they lured sub groups of the church in and assimilated them as the "german christs" and the rest of the religions were hunted down

  • I wonder if people realize how serious this stuff is. They mean what they say, Trump has his own army ready now for the next civil war and they have a billions of dollars at their disposal. As a brown person I ask, which side will white people choose?

  • @maxxpower18 said:
    I wonder if people realize how serious this stuff is. They mean what they say, Trump has his own army ready now for the next civil war and they have a billions of dollars at their disposal. As a brown person I ask, which side will white people choose?

    As a white person (I hate that autocorrect wanted to make “white” into “elite”) I just want an opportunity to jump ship before they target those with mental health disorder diagnoses.

  • edited January 14

    @maxxpower18 said:
    I wonder if people realize how serious this stuff is. They mean what they say, Trump has his own army ready now for the next civil war and they have a billions of dollars at their disposal. As a brown person I ask, which side will white people choose?

    It is, sadly, deadly serious. On a similar period, 1930s Germany, to understand how this happens, I'd recommend this book:

    And this:

    Unless there's a change of course, and quickly, untold horrors await.

    And to understand why all this is happening, this:

  • As a Christian, these people are NOT Christians. They aren't representing Christ. What they're doing isn't what Christ wants. This is 1930s Germany all over again under the guise of some morbid bastardized version of "Christianity". Except the people being targeted aren't the Jewish but rather People of Color, and the country isn't Germany but the US. And the rest of the world are laughing at us, bewildered as to how we in the US are repeating the same mistakes from 80+ years ago.

    And despite what many rightwing people would have you believe, Trump isn't the Second Coming of Christ. He's not even the anti-Christ since there are so many who oppose him and haven't been "won over". Trump is the second coming of somebody though, except Trump doesn't wear a Charlie Chaplin moustache.

    @maxxpower18 said:
    I wonder if people realize how serious this stuff is. They mean what they say, Trump has his own army ready now for the next civil war and they have a billions of dollars at their disposal. As a brown person I ask, which side will white people choose?

    I side with People of Color. Simple as that.

  • @jwmmakerofmusic hopefully I didn’t convey a sense of Christians automatically falling into any other categories. It’s the Christian nationalism that’s the issue, not blanket Christians as a whole. That may have been obvious but I wanted to clarify. If anything I’d be in the Christian category here considering I have a rock of ages tattoo with a bible verse haha.

  • @FizzyLizzy27 said:
    @jwmmakerofmusic hopefully I didn’t convey a sense of Christians automatically falling into any other categories. It’s the Christian nationalism that’s the issue, not blanket Christians as a whole. That may have been obvious but I wanted to clarify. If anything I’d be in the Christian category here considering I have a rock of ages tattoo with a bible verse haha.

    Lol! I was just wanting to clarify things for the general audience just in case people wanted to categorize me as "one of them" (aka "Xtian" nationalists).

  • Never, man. You’re one of the nicest denizens in this place.

    Personally, I don’t have a problem with religion. Just with people who use it to justify discrimination and hatred.

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @FizzyLizzy27 said:
    @jwmmakerofmusic hopefully I didn’t convey a sense of Christians automatically falling into any other categories. It’s the Christian nationalism that’s the issue, not blanket Christians as a whole. That may have been obvious but I wanted to clarify. If anything I’d be in the Christian category here considering I have a rock of ages tattoo with a bible verse haha.

    Lol! I was just wanting to clarify things for the general audience just in case people wanted to categorize me as "one of them" (aka "Xtian" nationalists).

    I think normal people understand that these people are not actually Christians. As an atheist, I'm sorry that your religion has been bastardized by these people.

  • @Gavinski said:

    @maxxpower18 said:
    I wonder if people realize how serious this stuff is. They mean what they say, Trump has his own army ready now for the next civil war and they have a billions of dollars at their disposal. As a brown person I ask, which side will white people choose?

    It is, sadly, deadly serious. On a similar period, 1930s Germany, to understand how this happens, I'd recommend this book:

    And this:

    Unless there's a change of course, and quickly, untold horrors await.

    And to understand why all this is happening, this:

    Thank you sir, I'll check them out.

  • Also the two volumes of Victor Klemperer’s “I Will bear witness”; the boiling of the frog as recorded by a Jewish man living through 1930s Germany… it really doesn’t start with gas chambers and jackboots.

  • @maxxpower18 said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @FizzyLizzy27 said:
    @jwmmakerofmusic hopefully I didn’t convey a sense of Christians automatically falling into any other categories. It’s the Christian nationalism that’s the issue, not blanket Christians as a whole. That may have been obvious but I wanted to clarify. If anything I’d be in the Christian category here considering I have a rock of ages tattoo with a bible verse haha.

    Lol! I was just wanting to clarify things for the general audience just in case people wanted to categorize me as "one of them" (aka "Xtian" nationalists).

    I think normal people understand that these people are not actually Christians. As an atheist, I'm sorry that your religion has been bastardized by these people.

    Dang, that last statement struck a chord. As someone who has had to step back, dismantle, and reassess my Christian faith many times in my life I can say it’s a deeply painful and personal process. There’s a sense of mourning seeing what I held so dearly weaponized.

    I still have my faith and beliefs, but i read something recently along these lines that resonated: Realizing your childhood faith isn’t true is like growing up in a warm cozy cabin, walking out into a snowstorm, then turning back and realizing the cabin was never there.

  • @maxxpower18 said:
    I wonder if people realize how serious this stuff is. They mean what they say, Trump has his own army ready now for the next civil war and they have a billions of dollars at their disposal. As a brown person I ask, which side will white people choose?

    That’s why it’s important that people don’t fall for this illusion of only two options.

    “A tyrant can make anything seem to be ‘the will of the people.’” – Leia Organa

    The Empire loves impossible choices: their way or the void. But the Force is bigger than their fear.

  • edited January 14

    @Gavinski & @Krupa excellent recommendations!

    @FizzyLizzy27 as long as it supports and carries your core values, morality and human decency any kind of spirituality is super healthy.

  • @FizzyLizzy27 said:

    @maxxpower18 said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @FizzyLizzy27 said:
    @jwmmakerofmusic hopefully I didn’t convey a sense of Christians automatically falling into any other categories. It’s the Christian nationalism that’s the issue, not blanket Christians as a whole. That may have been obvious but I wanted to clarify. If anything I’d be in the Christian category here considering I have a rock of ages tattoo with a bible verse haha.

    Lol! I was just wanting to clarify things for the general audience just in case people wanted to categorize me as "one of them" (aka "Xtian" nationalists).

    I think normal people understand that these people are not actually Christians. As an atheist, I'm sorry that your religion has been bastardized by these people.

    Dang, that last statement struck a chord. As someone who has had to step back, dismantle, and reassess my Christian faith many times in my life I can say it’s a deeply painful and personal process. There’s a sense of mourning seeing what I held so dearly weaponized.

    I still have my faith and beliefs, but i read something recently along these lines that resonated: Realizing your childhood faith isn’t true is like growing up in a warm cozy cabin, walking out into a snowstorm, then turning back and realizing the cabin was never there.

    I would say don't let those people ruin your connection with your religion and beliefs. Christian Nationalism isn't even remotely rooted on Christianity.

  • edited January 14

    Trust me, I know a false prophet when I see one and no politician has ever been the one making me take a step back on my faith. Now growing up in the South and slowly realizing how deeply and systematically intertwined religion, politics, and corruption are have been catalysts in the past. Christian leaders and preachers who latch onto hateful rhetoric have been cause for reflection. But I’ve said before, I’m not a loyalist to any politician.

    One of my biggest mentors, a pastor friend, told me deconstructing my beliefs can be healthy if done so in a spiritual mindset of seeking truth and/or understanding.

    Edit: and thanks for the encouragement @Katinkera and @maxxpower18

  • I think our friend has been told to can it by the moderators, and I just love it for him that everyone is carrying on the discussion without him. The screeds he wishes he could post, that will never be read. :D

  • @FizzyLizzy27 I see some parallels there. Tho I am not an active christian anymore I had the best talks with our former pastor. He was deeply interested in neurobiology, how humans feel and think and learn. He supported my decision knowing the reasons and that I will still carry the core values of christianity with me: Forgiveness and loving my neighbour.

  • @AlexY said:
    Never, man. You’re one of the nicest denizens in this place.

    Personally, I don’t have a problem with religion. Just with people who use it to justify discrimination and hatred.

    Same here, mate. Jesus never discriminated. He wanted and wants to save all, Jew and Gentile alike. He even went so far as to protect an immoral woman from being stoned to death by those who considered themselves as righteous.

    You know who Jesus didn't like? The religious zealots during His time on Earth - aka the Pharisees.

    And I try to be nice for the most part and strive to not be a jerk.


    @maxxpower18 said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @FizzyLizzy27 said:
    @jwmmakerofmusic hopefully I didn’t convey a sense of Christians automatically falling into any other categories. It’s the Christian nationalism that’s the issue, not blanket Christians as a whole. That may have been obvious but I wanted to clarify. If anything I’d be in the Christian category here considering I have a rock of ages tattoo with a bible verse haha.

    Lol! I was just wanting to clarify things for the general audience just in case people wanted to categorize me as "one of them" (aka "Xtian" nationalists).

    I think normal people understand that these people are not actually Christians. As an atheist, I'm sorry that your religion has been bastardized by these people.

    Thanks mate for the kind words. Also, you'll be surprised by this, but I don't step on anyone's toes who have a different religious outlook than me. It's all good so long as you're a decent person with solid morals and core values, which you do seem to have.

    Also, you probably know George Carlin. He was a philosopher with a sense of humor, and what he said years ago still rings true today, moreso than in his time. Love the guy like a cool uncle who likes to stir things up at Christmas dinner. 😂


    @FizzyLizzy27 said:

    @maxxpower18 said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @FizzyLizzy27 said:
    @jwmmakerofmusic hopefully I didn’t convey a sense of Christians automatically falling into any other categories. It’s the Christian nationalism that’s the issue, not blanket Christians as a whole. That may have been obvious but I wanted to clarify. If anything I’d be in the Christian category here considering I have a rock of ages tattoo with a bible verse haha.

    Lol! I was just wanting to clarify things for the general audience just in case people wanted to categorize me as "one of them" (aka "Xtian" nationalists).

    I think normal people understand that these people are not actually Christians. As an atheist, I'm sorry that your religion has been bastardized by these people.

    Dang, that last statement struck a chord. As someone who has had to step back, dismantle, and reassess my Christian faith many times in my life I can say it’s a deeply painful and personal process. There’s a sense of mourning seeing what I held so dearly weaponized.

    I still have my faith and beliefs, but i read something recently along these lines that resonated: Realizing your childhood faith isn’t true is like growing up in a warm cozy cabin, walking out into a snowstorm, then turning back and realizing the cabin was never there.

    Facts! This was me and Catholicism, but that's another topic for another thread altogether. All I know is, what Trump is doing does not align with Jesus' words to "Love God with all your heart, and to love thy neighbor as yourself". Doesn't align with my faith.

  • @Yadrichik_Chaya said:

    @NeuM said:

    If the free pass comes from the obvious political message being part of a song, I'll be posting a lot more political messages in songs and we'll see how that goes, yeah?

    >

    @NeuM said:
    So politically-themed songs (including political views many here seem to be hostile towards) are OK to post under "Creations & Collaborations"? OK. Appreciate the clarification, Mike.
    @NeuM said:

    Messages supporting this political song are OK, based on the responses here. But only being allowed to support a political message seems dishonest. Why not allow comments critical of the message?

    I look forward to seeing this tested.

    I’m pretty sure plenty of us would love to hear such political tracks, in all kinds of different genres posted under "Creations & Collaborations" 😃🙏

    Cinematic and bombastic trailer music that promotes the invasion of Greenland! 🥰

    Happy-go-lucky EDM tracks about Jeff & Donny partying together with underage girls! 🤩

    Christian Instrumental Nationalist Jazz Music: ”Christ is Swing” 😇

    Edgy Dark Trap Beats featuring acapellas from MAGA-wrappers like Tom Wackdonald & Fellatio Blow! 😍
    (Preferably using the N-word (hard R), several times, since others caught on camera using this awful word to children became filthy rich via GoFundMe) 🤭

    Or what about self-reflective music regarding idealogical contradictions? 🥳👍

    For such a project the following would be a very good starting point:

    Looking forward to hearing “Horst, Charlie and Me” and “This Boot Tastes Great” and “I’m Proud to Haul Big Rocks for the Pharaoh”

  • @gusgranite said:
    It makes me wonder what will eventually cause the many Trump voters to finally turn away from him? They stuck by him when he said you can just grab women between their legs and get away with it, they stuck by him through the Epstein underage girls sex trafficing, they stuck by him when he condoned the Jan 6 violence and pardoned the offenders, they stuck by him when his nasty little militia so obviously shot someone who did not need to be killed, etc. etc. etc. It goes on and on! At what point do they scratch their heads and say, “You know what. I’m not sure about this guy leading our nation…”

    It’s actually insane.

    That sunk cost fallacy will only end with the grave.

  • Noem just said that everyone should be ready to "prove their citizenship". Now Republicans, explain to me how you're okay with this.

  • edited January 15

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @Yadrichik_Chaya said:

    @NeuM said:

    If the free pass comes from the obvious political message being part of a song, I'll be posting a lot more political messages in songs and we'll see how that goes, yeah?

    >

    @NeuM said:
    So politically-themed songs (including political views many here seem to be hostile towards) are OK to post under "Creations & Collaborations"? OK. Appreciate the clarification, Mike.
    @NeuM said:

    Messages supporting this political song are OK, based on the responses here. But only being allowed to support a political message seems dishonest. Why not allow comments critical of the message?

    I look forward to seeing this tested.

    I’m pretty sure plenty of us would love to hear such political tracks, in all kinds of different genres posted under "Creations & Collaborations" 😃🙏

    Cinematic and bombastic trailer music that promotes the invasion of Greenland! 🥰

    Happy-go-lucky EDM tracks about Jeff & Donny partying together with underage girls! 🤩

    Christian Instrumental Nationalist Jazz Music: ”Christ is Swing” 😇

    Edgy Dark Trap Beats featuring acapellas from MAGA-wrappers like Tom Wackdonald & Fellatio Blow! 😍
    (Preferably using the N-word (hard R), several times, since others caught on camera using this awful word to children became filthy rich via GoFundMe) 🤭

    Or what about self-reflective music regarding idealogical contradictions? 🥳👍

    For such a project the following would be a very good starting point:

    Looking forward to hearing “Horst, Charlie and Me” and “This Boot Tastes Great” and “I’m Proud to Haul Big Rocks for the Pharaoh”

    Maybe we’ll get “Dixie” and “Well Have Our Home Again”

  • @maxxpower18 said:
    Noem just said that everyone should be ready to "prove their citizenship". Now Republicans, explain to me how you're okay with this.

    They know full well which ethnic and racial demographics will bear the brunt of this and which will never have to worry about it.

  • @JeffChasteen said:

    @gusgranite said:
    It makes me wonder what will eventually cause the many Trump voters to finally turn away from him? They stuck by him when he said you can just grab women between their legs and get away with it, they stuck by him through the Epstein underage girls sex trafficing, they stuck by him when he condoned the Jan 6 violence and pardoned the offenders, they stuck by him when his nasty little militia so obviously shot someone who did not need to be killed, etc. etc. etc. It goes on and on! At what point do they scratch their heads and say, “You know what. I’m not sure about this guy leading our nation…”

    It’s actually insane.

    That sunk cost fallacy will only end with the grave.

    This Reddit sub has pretty good examples and it’s usually when their faces get eaten by the leopards.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/youvotedforthat/

    Another one is

    https://www.reddit.com/r/PrayersToTrump/s/IR01uYw

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