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Agreed.
It used to be that you could at least find some measure of security here, relative to more repressive places (for example, I hear a lot of stories from friends who used to live in the soviet bloc), but there was always room for improvement and progress (edit: which includes not exploiting other countries). But apparently, justice is a step too far for some people.
Relatively speaking. Relative to what?
It depends. What does it depend on?
That is very vague.
Everything has flaws and everything can be criticized.
Personally, I like it here.
I do think it's trending and people are getting hysterical because of it.
Relative to openly repressive regimes like the Taliban, yeah, it's better.
It also depends on what aspects one focuses on. In some countries it's harder to earn a living and feed your family, so making money is better. Depending on where you live in the states, some communities are more progressive than others.
Compared to other countries who might be economically worse off, some aspects of the U.S. could use improvement like the problems around racial, gender and sex discrimination, for one. On the racial front, some of us don't have to worry about being racially profiled by the government in other countries.
Yeah, that includes the U.S.
I can't say it's trending towards great now given what is happening.
I like the community I live in, but I don't necessarily like our federal government and what it's doing.
I'm sorry you feel that way. We love it here. Regarding a police state, I've never had that experience. We obey the laws and don't make a spectacle of ourselves in public. Nobody has come to our door yet. I don't think "they" will. We pay our taxes and mind our own business. When we can afford it, we make donations to charity through our church. When we can afford to go out for dinner, we always tip our server as much as we can. It's not much, but that's what we can do.
I don't know anything about the mega rich. We certainly aren't. We don't spend money we don't have. We live in a small condo that is paid for. We have absolutely no credit card debt. We drive two little Toyotas, both paid for. We haven't taken a vacation in at least 10 years. We will both be retiring soon. Between my 401-K, Social Security, and the little bit of cash we have saved over the years, we will probably be okay. We have been practicing to live on a fixed income for years.
I agree with your statement about human nature being greedy. If that's the case, then we are an exception to the rule. We are not parasites.
@Paulieworld wrote “ Regarding a police state, I've never had that experience. We obey the laws and don't make a spectacle of ourselves in public.”
Many people of color are harassed by police despite obeying the laws and not making spectacles of themselves. Your freedom from harassment may speak more to your privilege than to your being law-abiding.
‘It hasn’t happened to me’ is a weak argument.
ICE since almost day 1 of Trump 2 has openly violated laws. The administration was caught red-handed violating people’s due process rights and sending them to horrible foreign prisons with no hearings. That is something that happens in police states.
ICE has forced their way into houses and businesses without the required judicial warrants. There are even internal ICE memos documenting that as policy.
Just look at the masked goons they are sending out and the brutal way they treat people, including innocent bystanders.
There is so much more but I don’t have the time or the heart for it.
Things have changed pretty radically in the last 12 months. Not that the U.S. was perfect before Trump 2, but we are clearly headed in the wrong direction.
You've never heard of Australia? Check it out - it's on Google Maps.
I think what you´re describing- that lack of empathy and compassion...It´s not just white supremacy anymore... time for a name change:
I think she nails it from a more psychological perspective
I don't consider it "privileged". I think of it as "blessed". I am here by the grace of God. I could have been born in North Korea, or any one of a number of other bad places. I think of it all the time and give thanks to God. I understand that others are harassed for no reason other than racism and bigotry. We just try to be nice to everybody and help wherever we can. That's all we can do.
I'm sorry that you are so angry.
Well said. It's not White Supremacy. However, I wouldn't call it White Narcissism, either. It's much deeper than that. It's all about the money and the power, regardless of skin color. There is an evil agenda going on in the world. As long as we are fighting each other, we are easily controlled.
I know I must sound like some old hippie from the 70s, but that's what I am, and I make no apologies for that.
Pray for peace.
Christian Nationalism. If that's what you want to call it, that's your right, and I defend your right to say it. However, I disagree. That is my right, too. I am sorry that you are so angry with me. I hope we can get together some day and work things out.
The thing is, it boils down to white supremacy. Malcolm X made a great point that white supremacy is not race specific but rather a part of US society. It's why you see so many brown and black people voting for Trump and in ICE. There's the ingrained notion that only white is right and being aligned with white supremacy makes you 'one of the good ones' by association.
White supremacy is not orthogonal to white narcissism. The supremacy aspect is that many (not by any means all) white people (and a few who aren’t—and them I do not understand at all) have a feeling that white European culture is something special compared to other cultures and needs to maintain its dominance within American and European culture. They feel like the dilution of that culture in the mainstream is somehow undesirable.
They completely ignore that their notion of what European culture is, is a fiction and that on top of that culture changes.
It isn’t coincidence that white fragility in the U.S. is turning brutal as the demographics shift from the U.S. being a majority-white population.
This is not to say that all white people feel this way. Quite a lot of white people are fine with multiculturalism…but those that aren’t are going to do what they can to turn back the clock on progress.
And some are truly just not exposed to it. I don't want to put her on the spot, but my wife, who is very white, didn't know what minorities went through in this country but was very open to learning about it and is just as disgusted by what ICE and Trump are doing right now.
True. A lot of white people, particularly those that don’t have friends that are POC, haven’t been exposed to what people who are not white go through.
Many think of racism as being only hating or looking down on people of color and aren’t aware that denial of the realities of their lives is also racist. A lot of idealistic white people think that “not seeing color” makes them free of racism…when it amounts to a denial of the realities of life of people of color.
You´re welcome
It is a terrible word choice.
The whole thing is built on vulnerability which is CRUCIAL for being open to learn, it feels UNCOMFORTABLE to feel mirrored, questioned or called out for hurting others. And that is exactly what fascism feasts and builds on. Shifting away from vulnerability is what patriarchy teaches to prepare men for war, which robs women of their rights, dehumanises them so new men can be born to be send to war. We´ve had it all before.
The other way would be leaning into the shame as an indicator for having acted wrong but making amends and change. It´s uncomfortable, it´s work. And a lot of people prefer to listen to the ones blaming a certain group of humans for a certain thing so no one has to take accountability for their shame anymore.
I admire Nina so much, not only her voice but the depth of her thoughts. I was 14 when I heard her the first time and she never left. What an icon.
He also delivered the whole bit extremely well.
This is exactly what I ment in the comment above to offbrands- she is open, vulnerable and knows how to cope with her shame. And the opposite of what is tried to be imprinted onto the U.S. citizens. Bless her!
I just heard Trump’s derisive comments about NATO military forces ‘hanging back’ from the frontlines. How dare he disrespect those soldiers who died for America’s wars. How dare he. Shame on him and shame on anyone who supports him going forward. Just disgusting.
I'm very anti war and don't think we should idolize the military (post WWII), but I don't go around making fun of prisoners of war or shitting on soldiers, especially the ones that died while doing their job. Since his first term Trump has constantly said disgusting stuff about soldiers and unfortunately it's been proven that a majority of people in the military vote for him, especially the Marines, which makes sense since a lot of poor young white kids join the Marines so they can afford to go to university.
How many lines does this man need to cross before his supporters have the guts to admit that he is not fit to lead? Slandering Allied soldiers who died in Afghanistan is one of the most offensive things I have ever heard a leader say. What does it take for Republicans to stand up against him? Where is their moral code? You can’t just keep excusing this by saying “but what about Biden?”. At some point a limit of decency must kick in.
At some point a limit of decency must kick in.
I think you give them an out referencing Hitler. They can just move past this and claim fantasist persecution.
But sticking just to Trump’s words spoken from his own mouth about the Allied soldiers who fought America’s war. How do you not have the moral fibre to shake your head and say that’s just wrong?
I agree, and I hope that a line will be crossed for these supporters sooner rather than later
I think Trump can do just about anything and his MAGA supports will not care - you are dealing with something that is more like a cult than traditional politics.
Luckily the mid terms are in November and they might be bad for Republicans. If they are, "the magic Trump spell" will be broken and they'lll see him as an electorial liabilty and drop him like a hot potato.
Once they realise they don't need him, his power will drop away quickly. At the moment Reps are afraid to stand up to him but when they see he is a political lame duck Trump will be toast. He has made a lot of enemies and they will be happy to stick the knife in.
For sure, many in the Republican Party despise him and will be glad to see his downfall. Let's not forget though that Trump is more of a symptom than a cause. Cost of living, wealth inequality, fear of mass layoffs due to AI and a thousand other issues need to be properly addressed to heal this at the root.
He's shown in the past he doesn't even respect his own troops.
From what I've seen in the wild, which is completely unscientific, there is little to no decency. Over and over, I've seen how people only have enough of Trump when some policy directly hurts them or someone they care about. Everyone else seems to be a faceless, nameless non-entity. Some have even said things along the lines of: "I never expected voting for Trump would hurt ME, or the people that voted for him."
Take that as you will, but I think this kind of thinking explains why some people refuse to directly acknowledge the elephant in the room that racial profiling by ICE is, which basically relegates some people to second class citizenship.
I also bet that for the subset of MAGA that beatifies people like Charlie Kirk, a huge reason Trump gets a pass on is that his vile rhetoric about marginalized people "tells it like it is". Just looking at the inordinate amount of time that MAGA at large spends focusing on transgender people tells me bigotry isn't a deal breaker for them (if it isn't in fact a big part of his appeal).
But when it comes to Europe, it's also a lot to do with immigrants obviously. They see not only the decline of Western civilization, but the decline of White people-- i.e. the "Great Replacement". It's all a bunch of Nazi hogwash. That's why you get a disproportionate amount of focus on immigrant crime (same as crime done by POC) as a form of fearmongering and scapegoating. Laken Riley's tragedy was a godsend to these people, because before they had to make do with drunken driving tragedies (which is ironic given Greg Bovino's own immigrant family drunken driving tragedy).