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The only app I've ever had excessive background battery drain with is Fractal Bits and that app doesn't even have a setting for background audio. A reboot didn't make the issue go away, only thing that helped was to delete the app.
At some point I'll re-install it again to check if it still behaves like that but as I don't really need the app that might take a while...
Thank you. Appreciated. I also edited my initial message as my battery drain is not from cubasis.
Oh wow that is unusable. Though the fact that you can’t MIDI map the toggle would make it hard to use live regardless.
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Hadn't tried that - yes, wow!, that's one negative double whammy and an almost strange omission.
Hi all,
Hope you are all well.
To keep you updated, Cubasis 3.8.3 for iOS (and Android) is currently in preparation.
This update again adds many user‑requested fixes, focusing on general stability and performance improvements across audio, MIDI, tempo, and editing.
The update is planned to be release shortly.
Best,
Lars
Thanks for the heads up @LFS !
Definitely looking forward to getting more bug squashed.
Hello Lars,
I’m experiencing a return of the inaccurate freeze & mixdowns of time stretched audio in the most recent version. It had been fixed for a few versions since last time ..
Has this been reported and part of the upcoming fixes?
Hi all,
Cubasis 3.8.3 has been released this morning.
Please find out more here: https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/67705/cubasis-3-8-3-available-now/p1?new=1
Best,
Lars
Hi.
Cant seem to reorder send fx ( only insert fx )
AI says you can but dosent seem so.
Also get a flashing fx tab if I hold too long and cant work out, how to unflash, without restarting cubasis.
Thanks.
Hi @sigma79,
This appears to be a bug, I tried the same procedure and it didn’t work, here is what it says in the Help section:
Rearranging effects
You can change the position of insert and send effects by moving them to a different slot (of the same track). To do so, tap and hold the effect to be rearranged, and drag it vertically to another slot.
Mike
[EDIT]
I have put this bug report on the Cubasis forum 👍
Thanks.
Only switching insert fx works for you ?
With sends.
I suppose its not so bad but have to keep deleting until im ok with my thru order.
Yes, changing the order of Insert Effects works fine, but not the Send Effect.
Mike
Thanks Mike.
Hope Cubasis will reply.
There is a difference between the Inset and send. The Insert is a chain on effects that can be re ordered. The Send is individual sends that can only host one effect. So it’s not really needed that they be reorderable.
Thank you @ecou, that makes sense in what you are saying 👍
Mike🍻
Not sure.
Theres 8 sends ( I assume you can stack 8 sends ) and they will be be viewed from every track ( then add send amounts but the send fx routing ( page 55 of steinberg manual ) Seems to show the sends in serial. So after seeing diagram. Decided to ask about reordering fx.
Drambo sends can route through each other with a knob.
Perhaps cubasis either routes in serial or not.
The « T » junction is representing the signal being split to the send. Then joinened by the « + ». That makes it parallel.
If you do a little research on Send you will see that they come from mixing board from back in the days. They were use when you only had one reverb unit for the whole studio. You would send some of the signal to the reverb from any tracks that needed it. Then it would be mixed back to the main. So that makes them parallel and not serial.
I had a discussion yesterday about the Send Effects order with @Samu on the Cubasis forum and he is in the same agreement as @ecou, so, I think the final answer to this situation is in @LSlowak hands
Mike
Also, the sends are post fader and are stereo channels. So the amount of signal sent to a send channel will also be affected by the channel fader level and the LR position will be determined by the channel pan pot. The group channels come in handy as you can have an FX send on the original channel, send the channel output to the group and you’re playing with the pre send signal in the group channel.
Are you sure that channel signals for groups are taken pre-fader? This would mean that level and pan for multiple channels sent to a group would not directly be possible, not how a mixing desk is typically built.
Thanks.
The + sign would still mix part of the signal ? Like it can in Drambo. Say a delay send to a reverb send. So the delay goes through the reverb ( or not if knob is not set past 0 )
The manual says the sends can be re-orded but cant and so if the sends do route through the next send ( at the + )
I have to delete sends to add a send delay as first send. Never thought Id use a send delay but decided it were ok using modnetic ( to save cpu ) for a dual Mononoke jam.
Resonators are also a standard on my Drambo drum ipad but might redo sends if sending stems to cubasis ( that would be ok to redo sends at that stage ) to regain the resonator.
Now you got the distortion app that just updated with a mix knob ( perhaps now this is optimal on sends ) being a banded fx.
Plus I have different reverbs on sends.
I suppose if I use delay on sends now, I might switch out delays, so would have to remake sends.
Im unsure of the term parallel or serial but need to know the following.
It says in the picture posted.
You can change the position of insert or send effects by moving them to a different slot.
The T junction seems the route that you would expect to split the outputs of tracks ( and tracks insert fx )
Then the + sign is combining the outputs of sends.
So a delay send would then pass through a reverb send ( otherwise part of the signal. The delay ) wont have reverb.
The first send in Drambo has a send knob to the 2nd send, just like all tracks have a send knob.
Ideally.
Cubasis does route the sends through sends ( although not a send amount for the send to send ) and if 8. Perhaps less sound control.
The issue is.
The manual says they can be re-orderd and perhaps you would want to re-order, if sends goe through sends.
You cannot send a send to another send in Cubasis
I does not matter what send order just that you remember which one you use.
When putting a effect in a send you always put the mix at 100%
Perhaps you should document yourself on this first
That’s were you are confusing things. A send does not go thru another send
I don’t own Drambo
I meant the signal sound without the fx send included. I didn’t mention anything about that being pre fader, but I can see how what I wrote was a little unclear.
Drambo and Cubasis are set up differently in this regard.
Cubasis sends cannot be sent to another aux channel. They do not and cannot go through another send. The output of each send automatically goes to the master stereo channel. Because they are static, baked in channels there is no way to reorder them and in fact it makes no sense to try and reorder them. Think of them as hard wired.
Drambo has more flexibility in how you route the audio from channel to channel and you can create more aux(fx) channels as needed. It’s a different environment.
Other DAWs like AEMS, BM3 and Logic Audio (to name but 3) also have the ability to add more aux channels and you can send aux channels to other channels, but they also provide you with the ability to chain a number of fx together in one channel as does Drambo. Cubasis was not designed like this.
It wasn’t so much about sending Send Effects to other channels, it was the inability to re-order the Send Effects as it is described in the Cubasis Help section, I just set up some Send Effects in different orders and then turned them on and off in different sequences and the overall sound did not change one bit.
This started of as a simple question by @sigma79, I thought I would try and help out but it has become more complex lol, but at least I have learned more about Sends and Inserts and what can and what ‘doesn’t’ need to be re-ordered so thank you all for your valuable input 👍
Mike
Iv only used Drambo and AUM, so just thought the routing would be a send through a send ( especially as its documented ) you can re-order sends. Obviously makes you think theres an audio reason ( to re-order )
Will have to see if it might be an issue.
I use a resonater send, with a reverb in same lane ( so resonater gets reverb )
Now im also seeing potential in delay and banded distortion apps.
Would some signal go through reverb ( if made a send ) but then some signal going through distortion not be going through the reverb ?
Hi @sigma79,
@LSlowak has now shared the Send Effects issue with his team which means there must be a reason why the Send order can be changed, I am yet to find out🤔
Mike