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Link audio apps
Patterning 3 now has Link Audio, which is Ableton’s new Wi-Fi/ethernet/usb audio sharing thingy.
It lets you send and receive audio between apps and devices.
I wonder what other apps are planning to add it?
Also, this looks like an amazing game changer for iPad music, as we can now send audio to the desktop, wirelessly if we like. I’m imagining integrating Koala into Ableton, with all the advantages of touch for Koala, and with all the power of Live.
Anyone else into this? Or know which apps are adding it?
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I'm interested in this too - I think aside from Patterning 3, only Note has the option. Would be great if AUM could include it, then we should hopefully be able to send audio via any AUv3.
I use IDAM currently, but being cable-free would be really nice.
Fwiw, you will probably still want to use a wired connection for Link Audio; WiFi for audio tends to require a fair amount of buffering.
I”ll be going for the wired connection. Very glad it works over USB-C. It’s a definite improvement over iDAM. I wonder if Apple will add this to Logic, like they did with regular Link.
I'm holding off on my enthusiasm until I see that the latency is workable. I'm skeptical since no other such inter device audio software solution has been practical from my viewpoint. Even now, I've downloaded Live Lite 12.4 and the default latency is setting is 100ms.
I get it that it could be terrific for syncing up a bunch of stuff that you're not trying to play live over. I'm hoping to be pleasantly surprised, but am pretty skeptical that it'll be of a lot of practical use for me.
On the other hand, if it enables two-way audio over an iDAM style connection at latencies similar to iDAM's one-way latency, then it'll be a gas.
What I might have some hope for too is it will become a way of combining DAWs that can't talk to each other on the same device. Perhaps also, apps that aren't practical to get AUv3 treatment, might get Link Audio and be of use in DAWs that support it.
Not seeing the Patterning 3 update yet, so I can't do an initial test.
i'm very skeptical to this.. considering that even standard LINK is not too tight in terms of sync (at that is literally just clock and start/stop, totally small amount of data), i can't see how this can be a much reliable (with audio, you ideally neeed sample level precision for syncing)...
dark pessimist in me just screams "damn, another fragile API to add into daw which will be threat to overall app stability and timing of midi/audio pipeline"
Ah ok, haven’t tried the update yet.
My guess is it'll be pretty darn fun for getting a bunch of stuff to play together, but less useful for real work such as playing live and recording. I hope to be wrong though.
Desktop DAWs are sorted. Just need AUM to jump onboard.
https://structurevoid.gumroad.com/l/voidlinkaudio-vst?layout=profile
yeah probably... definitely will try it (and will look at that API
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checking API documention.. it's basically extension of LINK api.. it streams only 16 BIT PCM (int) audio - no float, not high sampel rates, that's a pity (needs conversion on both sides cause most of hosts/clients process 32bit floating point audio) .. also it doesn't manage sample rate conversion, it's peers responsibility to deliver compatile SR ...
16 bit pcm probably to save bandwith..
will give it a chance ..
I'm surprised that you don't consider Link clock to work well! I've found it to be 1000 times better than MIDI clock, and it's definitely well engineered.
Re: standard link. There is more to it than just “clock and start/stop”). Unlike midi clock (which is just ticks plus optional start/stop), link provides tempo information directly rather than having clients deriving tempo from the time between ticks, it synchs bar lines which can be useful, it allows any client to change tempo, and is straightforward to use on networks. It seems to deal with jitter really well … even on WiFi it is less of a disaster than one would expect.
Well there is a catch.. there are 2 libraries from Ableton:
Ableton/Link -> https://github.com/Ableton/link .. GPL licensed, supports both Receive/Send, works on desktop
Ableton/LinkKit -> https://github.com/Ableton/LinkKit ... for iOS .. DOES NOT SUPPORT RECEIVE!
I think there is problem with GPL licensed libraries for Appstore releases - but i though i undestand it but i read more and it's laywyers gibberish and i got lost it in. So don't known now.
Anyway Ableton explicitly states in desktop SDK to not use it for iOS apps so.. they problably know.
No receive in iOS... What a pity, I had hoped, I could use it to send audio into note from other apps on the same device.
pretty sure sooner or later it WILL be available.. it's just too early release.. probably somewhere is already somebody working on adding RECEIVE support to LinkKit too ;-) There is no reason to not do it, no technical obstacles, nothing.
It's already in the current relaease (the one from a month ago). It's under Clock Settings, in the Ableton Link section.
It works great for me. I just recorded a Patterning pattern in perfect sync, wirelessly.
Thanks. I'll give it a try.
I have a Push 3 so I'll be checking this out. I've found Link timing to be tight between Playbeat 4 on iPad and the Push. It's a lot of fun to Link the iPad to the Push.
This is cool tech, but although 16bit audio is a deal breaker for me, I'm interested in messing around with it anyway.
It would be great to keep this thread going as a reference to which apps enable Link Audio.
So far
Patterning 3
Ableton Note
VividTracker
Well .. quick proof of concept. . with that DESKTOP SDK , AUv3 SEND/RECEIVE plugins works pretty well
Maybe after they add Receive support to official iOS LinkKit i finish this, add some VU meters and gain control on receivrer side for easier manipulation with multiple inputs and maube some multi AUv3 oputs so it can be routed withing it's host app and then we will see, maybe this will be my first app release on iOS :-))))
I'll be your first customer for your first app release!
Sweet @dendy monitoring closely!
I added support for Link Audio to VividTracker, released today. I think it is a really great feature and I had a lot of fun playing around with it yesterday.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KiCis34XtJ4
Fingers crossed (:
Guys, no more need to wait. I just released LinkEffekt, an AUv3 effect plugin that streams audio straight into Live 12.4+. Load it as an insert on any track in AUM, Loopy Pro, Drambo, GarageBand, whatever. It shows up as an input channel in Live.
The host doesn't need to support Link Audio natively. Since it's an AUv3 effect, it works everywhere. Each instance gets its own named channel, so you can capture multiple tracks independently.
Uses the official LinkKit SDK on iOS. Send only for now, receive isn't exposed in LinkKit yet.
More details and screenshots here: https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/68388/linkeffekt-stream-any-track-to-ableton-live-via-link-audio
https://apps.apple.com/app/linkeffekt/id6759493415
Shoot. No receive in LinkKit. So no two-way equivalent of iDAM yet.
I believe that’s a ABLETON limitation in the SDK I look upon the iPad like Ableton note in some ways as a sketch pad so one way is not a deal breaker for me.
The last point is the one for me. I'd look forward to Djay Pro's live real-time stem separation whereby the stems could each be streams to Loopy Pro. At the moment Djay Pro is just master out via KQ loopback, not even individual decks out
Yes, that's what I meant.
It's the opposite for me. My only real use for the desktop is if it can stream audio to the iPad. The only DAW work I do on the desktop is arranging and mixing of exported audio from the iPad.
my app (Choppa Sampler) is going to add it in 1.5 - next weekish
Super cool feature of ableton that I am excited about too!