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no, no...no offense at all. I just took it very seriously, more serious than was necesarry. Don't feel bad about it, if you heard hiss and if it did disturb your listening experience a bit, you should say that, what I do with it is my thing / problem. As long as you are truely honest, than everything is alright.
Great. I really do like the song, your guitar playing is very nice. Also as I said before, that is one of my fears of doing vocals. When I do, I usually end up totally messing with them/ glitching them up so they are more instruments than vocals. It's been a long time since I have tried to even do lyrics other than some short phrases. I guess I should put myself out there:
(This is an oooold track, notice the hiss on the guitar at the beginning? Maybe I'm crazy)
@Marcel, my friend, listen carefully: There is no hiss that matters and no one cares. The 'German accent' business is far more in your own ears than ours.....it matters not.
I understand as regards Soundcloud/intimacy, and that is your choice, but be certain it is the honesty/intimacy that makes this piece. There are no apps for that, only memories, lies and the heart.
@BvsMV - Good one! Hiss? No, didn't notice. Are you afraid of hiss? Good song subject: lyrics: "I hear hiss ...(in a David Byrne style).... no there's not....yes there is (anxiety).....(etc)....hiss everywhere, noise in my head, hiss in the streets, even in my bed" and all sorts of hiss in the music. Just an idea.
Nice weird sound sculpture. Like the plunky guitar! All sorts of things going on! I like it. End section also original. It is an original and good piece of music. Nothing wrong with the Do You lyric. Short phrases as lyric can be fun, why not try this more? Just for the fun of it.
Edit: Bassline perhaps a bit too loud, but thats a matter of personal taste.
Thanks a lot Johnny, really much appreciated.
@Marcel so maybe I am crazy! I do like the lyric idea, that totally could work! Thanks for the kind words and the encouragement on that. Also yes, that bass is too loud and there's way too much reverb in thee.
Ok, I get it. Not sure if I have any specific advice other than H2 in more of a field recorder so it is made to pick up the sound all around rather than what's in front of it. Rather than investing in a headset your best bet would be to research condenser microphones. Some will need a mixer/preamp/audio interface to amplify, power and connect to the iPad but there are some that will (I guess) connect directly. I'm not sure but there might be something from IK multimedia and Samson. Just do your research. This shouldn't set you back more than 70$.
@Marcel, I've updated your link on page one.
My entry for the month:
'Unrestricted Charles' my July entry.
All done in Korg Gadget, mastered in Final Touch.
I used only eight instruments this time, I tried to go for a more minimal feel. There's a fair bit of automation on
the bassline, which uses the Chicago module and it's ace Arp feature.
This track has been reworked many times and I had to just mark it as 'done', or I'd still be fretting about those
hi-hat parts in scene 25 (or whatever) endlessly !
The title comes from Gadget's cool track naming feature, I went through a lot of titles before it came up with
'Unrestricted Charles'. The structure is a tad oblique (intentionally so),one of the reasons for this, in the current arrangement set-up in Gadget. It's very tricky to copy whole sections, so I find duplicating previous scenes is the more straightforward way to build things up.
@richardyot
Short review: Great! Love it!
Long review:
The intro is fabulous! great! Love it. The build up to the singing: great. Mild vocoder used in the vocals? Great tune, great melodie, great instrumentation, great singing!!! Pleasantly surprised. The singing, the melodie, the music, I fall into repetition, but its really great! Vibe and feel thumbs up. Smooth and clear. LOVE the melody!
Some minor details:
Much debate here about where to put the vocals. My vision might be a bit blurred on the subject. That being said, in this case I put it a tiny bit more backwards, to blend it in more. Perhaps only in the beginning. When I listened to it for the second time, I got the impression that it is a bit too loud only in the first singing section (that is before 1:18). After that its good.
The sound of the letter S in your vocals in some parts is a bit of a problem, I don't know a solution for that. This is perhaps the only slightly bigger problem in the song. But to focus only on that would be wrong, cause its a great song. And it might be only me who think of it as a bit of a problem.
And the end...hmm..a bit abrupt...are there better options? For instance: as it is now, and than - after a second silence - again a section wich fades out. Just thinking. But perhaps you like it as it is, I am not saying. 'this is not good', cause it is good as is, but might be perhaps improved. I sometimes get the same critic about my work, but I always keep it as it is. Another idea about your end: as it is now, plus a for instance 10-15 seconds fading echo/delay of the last sounds, for instance in the same tempo as the song. Could be done manually, some handwork though. Just some ideas.
Conclusion: this is a great contribution!
@Marcel thanks for the feedback, glad you like it
The vocals were processed in Melodyne to fix my pitch, and also I have a vocoded vocal as a very faint double.
The sibilance is indeed a big problem on this track, I already had to process the vocals very heavily with Pro-DS to try and fix it, but even so there is still an issue with the "s" sounds. I don't normally have problems with sibilance but in this case I sang very quietly (partly because the register is a bit low for my voice) and then I compressed the vocals to hell and back so that is what caused the problem.
I will bear in mind what you said about the level of the vocals on the first verse, and consider reducing them. As for the ending, I think the instrumental is actually a bit long so maybe it should fade out about 8 bars before the end.
@Igneous1 Nice intro, and the slightly jazzy leads that come in were a genuine surprise, I was expecting something more EDMish, so cool genre-melding there.
Lots of interesting little melodies, and plenty of musical invention and the track evolves nicely. I think it's a good track but maybe it lacks a little drama or feeling? I liked it musically, but maybe on an emotional level it could do more.
@richardyot: lovely, laidback vibe to the music - I could easily get lost in it - and nice voice but, as others, and yourself, have said the sibilance is a bit too noticeable and some of the words are indistinct (and English is my native language
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Generally, a thumbs up though!
@Igneous1: Nice bass line! Some nice lead sounds early on but not sure about some of the combinations of sounds. It is good to have some variety as the groove progresses but to me they sounded a little bit too random. But maybe that is the Unrestricted nature of the track?
Yes, I think it's fair to say I mumbled my way through that vocal
Maybe at some future date (if I still like the track) I might consider re-doing the vocals. The problem with hyper-compression, especially if the vocal is quiet to begin with, is that all the little problems get magnified. It's easy enough to cut out the breaths and faintly disgusting slurpy noises in the timeline, but the sibilance wasn't fixable in this instance, maybe a better mix engineer might have been able to rescue it.
@richardyot Good song. Good atmosphere. Well controlled. Yes, the 'esses', you know all about it, end of story. However, and whatever your process (sic) was here I have no doubt if I had played this to you four or five months ago you would have LOVED this vocal. Much of this is getting past the 'in tune' thing, but you are also giving yourself more to this, or that's how it sounds. More believable. A function of practice and confidence in part, no doubt, but the listener doesn't care about that; this sounds like a song, not a WIP (however WIPpy you may consider it, yes, the ending could/should be nailed etc etc...).
Big step up to these ears. Well done.
@JohnnyGoodyear thanks - making (slow) progress is definitely the aim of the game. I take particular delight in seeing everyone else's progress too.
Fabfilter DS (de-esser) is in sale. I don't have it, so I can't comment on it.
Very nice song, I really liked. Impressive and instructive to hear the first draft and now the finished product - perhaps we should try to do that more often here for learning purposes?
Hypnotic, but when I think it will begin to get repetitive, you change the progression. Nicely done. And the vocals were very very good.
Not to beat on the dead horse, but if you find a way to control the sibilance, it will be perfect.
As one who gave up on Gadget, I'm always trying to learn from the talents here who can get entire songs out of it! I found your track very pleasant to listen to; you clearly spent time and energy making sure there was an overriding theme while also giving it some variety and sense of progression. I enjoyed it.
The only thing that popped into my mind as I was listening the track (and I listened to it three times!) is I would expect some more variation in volume / velocity to accompany the track as it progressed. I'm curious - did you vary the velocity? If not, was this intentional? I ask this because I'm somewhat OCD at varying velocity at almost at each note, not sure if that makes any sense! This is more a curiosity than a criticism; I think the track is good as it is.
I used Pro DS on those vocals - it was worse before
Fantastic groove @Igneous1 I wasn't too sure about the dx piano or the fact that at 2.00 it was all getting a bit too much (I would have dripped it sparse a bit earlier.
Otherwise the groove, the bass line, especially with the tablas towards 2.30 mark, top shit. Also I normally don't like emulated instruments but you've blended them in real well. Ace.
@richardyot this reminded me of Leonard Cohen's later stuff. Quite hypnotic. As ever I'd rather have less stuff on vocals. Also the ending felt a bit rush. Fade would have worked better I think.
Nice groove and pacing. Didn't pay too much attention to the lyrics, sorry.
@supadom
Cheers for that feedback, I spent a lot of time trying to get the bass / drum thing happening, so it's great to hear that you thought it did.
@AndyX
Many thanks too, yes I did alter the velocity a fair bit - mostly on the drums and the keys. It's probably fairly subtle though. Top marks for listening to it three times !
@AlterEgo_UK
Yes, the arrangement is a bit 'non-linear'. I'm not a songwriter - I couldn't write a song to save my life. I like electronica as I can do what I like in terms of structure, even though it doesn't always work
@richardyot
Perhaps the comments above might explain the lack of an emotional element (?), thanks for the feedback on the more technical elements of the track nontheless
I shall be reciprocating with my feedback for others soonest.
@JohnnyGoodyear I have not heard the original to this track but I enjoyed this version.Lots of space and I enjoyed the vocal with all the layers.And who doesn't love Zebras kicking each other in the face??!:D
@AlterEgo_UK Nice track mate,I agree with Richard,Catchy,good melody etc I actually like your choice of reverb I think it fits the song well as your vocal kind of floats along with the whole 'dream' thing,however some words were a little hidden by the reverb so coming off it a bit might polish it up a bit.Nice message as well and good on you for posting a vocal track:)
@TouchConspiracy interesting chord progression mate,it kept me guessing which is always good.
@Supadom very entertaining mate,who says men can't multitask eh?!:D You've got some great talent there mate.Im "Well Jeal" as the cool kids say!!
@BSVmv sorry mate I missed your entry for some reason.I enjoyed all the variety in your track mate,great sound choices I felt some of the drum change ups didn't quite flow at times...but I liked that you changed them up!:) I'm not a pro at this style of music but it sounded well mixed in my ears.
@Richardyot firstly let me say it's 9pm here in Spain and I'm still sat by the pool and your song was perfect for my mood and location,I've been listening to similar stuff by pros all day and the music to your track fit right in with the others:) it's a shame about the sibilance mate,I think u should redo the vocal cos it's a great melody with a nice hook and I honestly think it would be worth the effort.It may be a bit long,personal preference that but I don't mind long songs if they NEED to be for storytelling etc.Really good stuff mate just don't short change yourself on the vocal:)