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AudioThing Fields - Audio Recorder App (Out Now!)

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  • I would say the combination of software gain and 32-bit float recording is pretty unique to Fields.

    You can bump up the software gain in order to be able to monitor the incoming signal and should it clip during recording it's always possible to normalize it after recording. This will NOT work when using 24-bit as the file gets permanently clipped.

    As an example when I'm using the iRigMic HD (which is a 24-bit device) I can use a combination of software and hardware gain to control the desired headroom. (ie. I can boost the software gain in Fields to be able to monitor at higher level without fear of clipping the recording which would be easily done if there was no software gain and I would have to bump up out the gain on the iRig Mic HD).

    This in combination with the noise-reduction, filters, geo-tagging, notes with images etc. make it a pretty unique offering on iOS.

    Even thought I've been doing extensive beta on it I'm not 100% happy with the waveform navigation as I'm way too used to WaveBox and TwistedWave) and editing but it's definitely very usable.

    I just hope that it'll do well so @audiothing can keep it updated and add more features at a later date :sunglasses:

  • @Samu said:
    I would say the combination of software gain and 32-bit float recording is pretty unique to Fields.

    You can bump up the software gain in order to be able to monitor the incoming signal and should it clip during recording it's always possible to normalize it after recording. This will NOT work when using 24-bit as the file gets permanently clipped.

    As an example when I'm using the iRigMic HD (which is a 24-bit device) I can use a combination of software and hardware gain to control the desired headroom. (ie. I can boost the software gain in Fields to be able to monitor at higher level without fear of clipping the recording which would be easily done if there was no software gain and I would have to bump up out the gain on the iRig Mic HD).

    This in combination with the noise-reduction, filters, geo-tagging, notes with images etc. make it a pretty unique offering on iOS.

    Even thought I've been doing extensive beta on it I'm not 100% happy with the waveform navigation as I'm way too used to WaveBox and TwistedWave) and editing but it's definitely very usable.

    I just hope that it'll do well so @audiothing can keep it updated and add more features at a later date :sunglasses:

    Oh, I didn’t realize that about 32-bit float - for some reason I thought 32-bit float headroom benefits only worked with particular microphones? So, the ‘no permanent clipping’ benefits work with any microphone, yes?

  • @Robin2 said:

    Oh, I didn’t realize that about 32-bit float - for some reason I thought 32-bit float headroom benefits only worked with particular microphones? So, the ‘no permanent clipping’ benefits work with any microphone, yes?

    If you clip at the 'mic capsule level' not even 32-bit recording can save it. This goes for most 32-bit float recorders.

    The Cheaper Zoom 32-bit recorders are relatively easy to clip when the mic-capsule can't handle the sound-pressure level, like very close (<2") to truck-engines, police sirens etc..

    32-bit float is just a 'container' where the sample is stored, so instead of just storing a 24-bit sample value you store it in a 32-bit container and thus you can apply a lot more gain to the stored value than if you would just amplify the stored 16/24-bit value.

    In the case of the iPhone 16 which doesn't have any analog gain the +/-24db 'software gain' amplifies the signal from mic capsule to get a louder recording.

    When the signal from the iPhone mic is 'hot' the +24db gain fills the 24-bit container and it clips, while if you store the same value in a 32-bit float container you can normalize the recording in post.

    I suggest downloading the TestFlight build and giving it a spin.

  • @skiphunt said:
    I hope this isn’t taken wrong… but what unique capability does this app offer over other field recording apps out there?

    To be honest, I did not really start by looking at other recorder apps and asking myself how Fields could be different. The main reason was simply that I wanted to build something for me, around the way I like to record sounds.

    I was getting tired of always bringing the Zoom recorder with me, dealing with SD cards, transferring files, etc. So I started building Fields around what I personally wanted to do.

    For me the most important part is the workflow, the organization, the photos, the map, and especially the pre roll recording. Many times I lost a sound because I was not quick enough, or because I thought I had hit the record button but actually did not. With Fields I can set a long pre roll, then tap record and slide up to save what already happened. This has already saved many recordings for me.

    I also have a longer term plan to connect Fields with some of my other apps, like Noises, and with upcoming instruments that could really benefit from this kind of workflow.

  • @Samu said:

    @Robin2 said:

    Oh, I didn’t realize that about 32-bit float - for some reason I thought 32-bit float headroom benefits only worked with particular microphones? So, the ‘no permanent clipping’ benefits work with any microphone, yes?

    If you clip at the 'mic capsule level' not even 32-bit recording can save it. This goes for most 32-bit float recorders.

    The Cheaper Zoom 32-bit recorders are relatively easy to clip when the mic-capsule can't handle the sound-pressure level, like very close (<2") to truck-engines, police sirens etc..

    32-bit float is just a 'container' where the sample is stored, so instead of just storing a 24-bit sample value you store it in a 32-bit container and thus you can apply a lot more gain to the stored value than if you would just amplify the stored 16/24-bit value.

    In the case of the iPhone 16 which doesn't have any analog gain the +/-24db 'software gain' amplifies the signal from mic capsule to get a louder recording.

    When the signal from the iPhone mic is 'hot' the +24db gain fills the 24-bit container and it clips, while if you store the same value in a 32-bit float container you can normalize the recording in post.

    I suggest downloading the TestFlight build and giving it a spin.

    Thanks @Samu, that’s really useful information to know. I’m already on the TestFlight, so I’ll certainly be trying it out now I know. Cheers.

  • @audiothing said:

    @skiphunt said:
    I hope this isn’t taken wrong… but what unique capability does this app offer over other field recording apps out there?

    To be honest, I did not really start by looking at other recorder apps and asking myself how Fields could be different. The main reason was simply that I wanted to build something for me, around the way I like to record sounds.

    I was getting tired of always bringing the Zoom recorder with me, dealing with SD cards, transferring files, etc. So I started building Fields around what I personally wanted to do.

    For me the most important part is the workflow, the organization, the photos, the map, and especially the pre roll recording. Many times I lost a sound because I was not quick enough, or because I thought I had hit the record button but actually did not. With Fields I can set a long pre roll, then tap record and slide up to save what already happened. This has already saved many recordings for me.

    I also have a longer term plan to connect Fields with some of my other apps, like Noises, and with upcoming instruments that could really benefit from this kind of workflow.

    Sounds like an app I should spend a little time with then. I have a few recorders already, but only a couple u ever really enjoyed using.

    I like the descriptions related to the noise reduction and 32bit stuff… as well as the pre roll.

    I have the beta already. I just thought I’d ask what it is that makes this recorder unique before I started checking it out.

    Thanks all for the feedback

  • Literally my fastest instabuy.

  • @Samu said:
    This is my 'kit' when doing beta on this 'thing', super fun :sunglasses:

    Is the iRig mic noticeably better or more useful than the internal mics?

  • @seawind161 said:

    @Samu said:
    This is my 'kit' when doing beta on this 'thing', super fun :sunglasses:

    Is the iRig mic noticeably better or more useful than the internal mics?

    Mildly put it's a night & day difference! :sunglasses:

  • It's probably mentioned but where do the files save? I assume if I just moved from Testflight to AppStore version I lost any prior recordings?

  • @Ailerom said:
    It's probably mentioned but where do the files save? I assume if I just moved from Testflight to AppStore version I lost any prior recordings?

    As far as I know it’s /Fields/Recordings/ in Files.app or iCloud Drive depending on what was chosen in the app!? (Usually files stay put unless You first delete the TrstFlight version and then install from AppStore).

  • @Samu said:

    @Ailerom said:
    It's probably mentioned but where do the files save? I assume if I just moved from Testflight to AppStore version I lost any prior recordings?

    As far as I know it’s /Fields/Recordings/ in Files.app or iCloud Drive depending on what was chosen in the app!? (Usually files stay put unless You first delete the TrstFlight version and then install from AppStore).

    All gone. Nothing major.

  • Are those bluetooth mics you're using in the video? Just curious as to what they are.

  • @Ailerom said:

    @Samu said:

    @Ailerom said:
    It's probably mentioned but where do the files save? I assume if I just moved from Testflight to AppStore version I lost any prior recordings?

    As far as I know it’s /Fields/Recordings/ in Files.app or iCloud Drive depending on what was chosen in the app!? (Usually files stay put unless You first delete the TrstFlight version and then install from AppStore).

    All gone. Nothing major.

    That's strange. Anyway, in the future, you can manually backup from the app (multi-select and export) or just copy the Fields folder from the Files app.

  • @richardyot said:
    Are those bluetooth mics you're using in the video? Just curious as to what they are.

    It's a cheap chinese mic that has a usb-c receiver. The receiver connects to two mics, but unfortunately, they both record to the same channel (mono). They are magnetic, though, which is pretty cool.

  • @audiothing said:

    @richardyot said:
    Are those bluetooth mics you're using in the video? Just curious as to what they are.

    It's a cheap chinese mic that has a usb-c receiver. The receiver connects to two mics, but unfortunately, they both record to the same channel (mono). They are magnetic, though, which is pretty cool.

    Thanks :)

  • Sorry if it was already addressed but is it universal and can finished files be exported to LP and other locations?

  • @Ben said:
    Sorry if it was already addressed but is it universal and can finished files be exported to LP and other locations?

    Universal as in iOS/iPad yes. It won't run on macOS. You can export within the app or you can access the files directly from the Files app. You can save either to iCloud or locally.

  • @audiothing said:

    @Ben said:
    Sorry if it was already addressed but is it universal and can finished files be exported to LP and other locations?

    Universal as in iOS/iPad yes. It won't run on macOS. You can export within the app or you can access the files directly from the Files app. You can save either to iCloud or locally.

    I meant if we buy it on our phone will we also have access to it on our iPads without another purchase.

  • @Ben said:
    I meant if we buy it on our phone will we also have access to it on our iPads without another purchase.

    Yes, you have access to both iPhone and iPads without additional purchases, it's the same app.

  • I bought the app and moved some AudioShare folders into the Recording folders. Both of these had subfolders. At present, Fields doesn’t seem to “see” the subfolders, just the audio files in the primary folder.

    I realize that organizing audio files wasn’t the intended function of this app, and I’m looking forward to using Fields as it was intended: as a field recorder. But if the app gets more ambitious, @audiothing, maybe it will learn to navigate subfolders. It’s also possible, as the Recordings folder fills, that users will want to turn off the automatic rendering of every audio file in the folder, in order to save time and get down to business faster. Or is this rendering done once and saved somewhere? I’ve not done any thorough testing; just noticing things as I explore.

    One thing I like about all the Audiothing apps I’ve bought: they look elegant. Maybe that shouldn’t matter in an audio app, but it does to me.

  • @dokwok2 said:
    I bought the app and moved some AudioShare folders into the Recording folders. Both of these had subfolders. At present, Fields doesn’t seem to “see” the subfolders, just the audio files in the primary folder.

    I realize that organizing audio files wasn’t the intended function of this app, and I’m looking forward to using Fields as it was intended: as a field recorder. But if the app gets more ambitious, @audiothing, maybe it will learn to navigate subfolders. It’s also possible, as the Recordings folder fills, that users will want to turn off the automatic rendering of every audio file in the folder, in order to save time and get down to business faster. Or is this rendering done once and saved somewhere? I’ve not done any thorough testing; just noticing things as I explore.

    One thing I like about all the Audiothing apps I’ve bought: they look elegant. Maybe that shouldn’t matter in an audio app, but it does to me.

    Thank you! I didn’t want to create a “maze” of subfolders, but I can probably allow browsing them when they are present.

    I’m also improving the whole browser and waveform preview to make everything even faster and more optimized. Right now, it should already save all the previews as long as the files don’t change, so in theory it should only need to create them once. But this will get much better in the next update.

    Please keep the feedback coming, we’ll keep improving the app :)

  • @audiothing said:

    @Ben said:
    I meant if we buy it on our phone will we also have access to it on our iPads without another purchase.

    Yes, you have access to both iPhone and iPads without additional purchases, it's the same app.

    Thanks.

  • @audiothing, congratulations on the release. Is this an introduction price or the regular price? If introduction, how long’s it on for? Thanks.

  • @Robin2 said:
    @audiothing, congratulations on the release. Is this an introduction price or the regular price? If introduction, how long’s it on for? Thanks.

    Thank you! Yes the introductory price is available until July 31. After that, the full price will be $9.99.

  • @audiothing said:

    @Robin2 said:
    @audiothing, congratulations on the release. Is this an introduction price or the regular price? If introduction, how long’s it on for? Thanks.

    Thank you! Yes the introductory price is available until July 31. After that, the full price will be $9.99.

    Thanks for confirming, appreciate it.

  • Really enjoying the app @audiothing and looking forward to more features. I did some experimenting here.

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  • @pbelgium said:
    Really enjoying the app @audiothing and looking forward to more features. I did some experimenting here.

    Thank you for sharing! :)

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