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New Aqeel Aadam app Coastline. Out now

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  • this sort of app is exactly the sort of thing I like to see on iOS - unique UI, great sound and doesn't do the same thing as umpteen other apps I already own :D

    also this is how you launch an app - teaser videos from the dev ahead of release and a walkthrough from Gavinski the moment it gets released. boggles my mind how some devs expect you to buy their app based on a LLM-slop description and a few screenshots

  • @Kashi Maybe update the the title of the thread now with Coastline Name

  • @Jumpercollins said:
    @Kashi Maybe update the the title of the thread now with Coastline Name

    Good shout. Done

  • edited June 25

    Another good starting point if your on the fence about this app!

  • This tool is so deep and so thoughtful and elegant, that I hauled off and also got waymaker and ridgewalk just to see what it’d be like to live in the Aqeel Aadam suggested ways of working. (& the soothing graphics honestly, encourage me to spend time in the apps too)

    & also? If you were try and patch all these functions in say, a Eurorack system, that would cost you, roughly, eleventy billion dollars.

  • @drconfusion said:
    This tool is so deep and so thoughtful and elegant, that I hauled off and also got waymaker and ridgewalk just to see what it’d be like to live in the Aqeel Aadam suggested ways of working. (& the soothing graphics honestly, encourage me to spend time in the apps too)

    & also? If you were try and patch all these functions in say, a Eurorack system, that would cost you, roughly, eleventy billion dollars.

    Yes, there's a tendency a lot of devs have to basically bring out new apps constantly, with pretty small feature sets, often, mind you, with a low price to match. I don't want to come across too critical of that, because I definitely understand the economic incentives behind it. But I do really appreciate Aqeel's thoughtful and slow approach. 2 apps a year, which seems to be his current speed, is a good number if you want to produce really solid, beautiful and original tools.

  • Just as I was getting closer and closer to buying Klevgrand Parrot, I’m now thinking this looks like a more interesting take on the recorded buffer manipulation type app.

    Just one question (haven’t fully watched videos or fully read manual yet): is it easy to set it up, or even possible, so that the tide/glade pitches respond to MIDI input?

  • edited June 25

    @Robin2 said:
    Just as I was getting closer and closer to buying Klevgrand Parrot, I’m now thinking this looks like a more interesting take on the recorded buffer manipulation type app.

    Just one question (haven’t fully watched videos or fully read manual yet): is it easy to set it up, or even possible, so that the tide/glade pitches respond to MIDI input?

    Good question. Only if you use Aqeel’s Waymaker sequencer, I think. That integration with Waymaker is covered in the manual and is actually very clever

  • @Gavinski said:

    @Robin2 said:
    Just as I was getting closer and closer to buying Klevgrand Parrot, I’m now thinking this looks like a more interesting take on the recorded buffer manipulation type app.

    Just one question (haven’t fully watched videos or fully read manual yet): is it easy to set it up, or even possible, so that the tide/glade pitches respond to MIDI input?

    Good question. Only if you use Aqeel’s Waymaker sequencer, I think. That integration with Waymaker is covered in the manual and is actually very clever

    Okay, cool, I’ll look into that. Thanks @Gavinski, cheers.

  • @Robin2 said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Robin2 said:
    Just as I was getting closer and closer to buying Klevgrand Parrot, I’m now thinking this looks like a more interesting take on the recorded buffer manipulation type app.

    Just one question (haven’t fully watched videos or fully read manual yet): is it easy to set it up, or even possible, so that the tide/glade pitches respond to MIDI input?

    Good question. Only if you use Aqeel’s Waymaker sequencer, I think. That integration with Waymaker is covered in the manual and is actually very clever

    Okay, cool, I’ll look into that. Thanks @Gavinski, cheers.

    Those pitch knobs should really have more options imo.

    1. Totally free rate, not jumping in semitones
    2. Option to have a value only be written when you release your finger. There could be a small button beside each pitch knob to toggle between that and the normal knob behaviour, where changes are written immediately.
  • @Gavinski said:

    @Robin2 said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Robin2 said:
    Just as I was getting closer and closer to buying Klevgrand Parrot, I’m now thinking this looks like a more interesting take on the recorded buffer manipulation type app.

    Just one question (haven’t fully watched videos or fully read manual yet): is it easy to set it up, or even possible, so that the tide/glade pitches respond to MIDI input?

    Good question. Only if you use Aqeel’s Waymaker sequencer, I think. That integration with Waymaker is covered in the manual and is actually very clever

    Okay, cool, I’ll look into that. Thanks @Gavinski, cheers.

    Those pitch knobs should really have more options imo.

    1. Totally free rate, not jumping in semitones

    I don't have the app yet, but isn't that covered in the settings (49 mins in his video)?

  • edited June 26

    @Gavinski said:

    @drconfusion said:
    This tool is so deep and so thoughtful and elegant, that I hauled off and also got waymaker and ridgewalk just to see what it’d be like to live in the Aqeel Aadam suggested ways of working. (& the soothing graphics honestly, encourage me to spend time in the apps too)

    & also? If you were try and patch all these functions in say, a Eurorack system, that would cost you, roughly, eleventy billion dollars.

    Yes, there's a tendency a lot of devs have to basically bring out new apps constantly, with pretty small feature sets, often, mind you, with a low price to match. I don't want to come across too critical of that, because I definitely understand the economic incentives behind it. But I do really appreciate Aqeel's thoughtful and slow approach. 2 apps a year, which seems to be his current speed, is a good number if you want to produce really solid, beautiful and original tools.

    +1 Couldn't agree more with these sentiments. His feature sets seem so beautifully crafted and thoughtfully curated.

    Not knocking other approaches, but some other devs I'm thinking of seem to chuck in loads of features into apps, and they end up feeling a bit of a feature mishmash which doesn't quite hang together as a cohesive whole with a strong identity.

    A couple of times while watching the video walkthrough for Coastline, I found myself hoping the app had a particular feature, and lo and behold, there it was! (in particular, a modulation section - and what a modulation section it is!, alongside the audio matrix, and also the ability to trigger the recording of a new Sustainer remotely from the DAW e.g. using FLFO or some such.

    Also, I love the way with Outgrowth, he carefully listened to user wishlist features, and incorporated nearly all of them into an upgrade. I think we can fully expect the dev to do the same here.

    Really looking forward to exploring this one.

  • @craftycurate said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @drconfusion said:
    This tool is so deep and so thoughtful and elegant, that I hauled off and also got waymaker and ridgewalk just to see what it’d be like to live in the Aqeel Aadam suggested ways of working. (& the soothing graphics honestly, encourage me to spend time in the apps too)

    & also? If you were try and patch all these functions in say, a Eurorack system, that would cost you, roughly, eleventy billion dollars.

    Yes, there's a tendency a lot of devs have to basically bring out new apps constantly, with pretty small feature sets, often, mind you, with a low price to match. I don't want to come across too critical of that, because I definitely understand the economic incentives behind it. But I do really appreciate Aqeel's thoughtful and slow approach. 2 apps a year, which seems to be his current speed, is a good number if you want to produce really solid, beautiful and original tools.

    +1 Couldn't agree more with these sentiments. His feature sets seem so beautifully crafted and thoughtfully curated.

    Not knocking other approaches, but some other devs I'm thinking of seem to chuck in loads of features into apps, and they end up feeling a bit of a feature mishmash which doesn't quite hang together as a cohesive whole with a strong identity.

    A couple of times while watching the video walkthrough for Coastline, I found myself hoping the app had a particular feature, and lo and behold, there it was! (in particular, a modulation section - and what a modulation section it is!, alongside the audio matrix, and also the ability to trigger the recording of a new Sustainer remotely from the DAW e.g. using FLFO or some such.

    Also, I love the way with Outgrowth, he carefully listened to user wishlist features, and incorporated nearly all of them into an upgrade. I think we can fully expect the dev to do the same here.

    Really looking forward to exploring this one.

    From his latest blog post:

    to be honest, I think it ended up a much stronger product for me having waited so long. I think it ended up being the right place and the right time.

    I find this so refreshing. To the extent that I can place trust in online interactions, his whole approach (attentive, deliberate) definitely helps him earn that trust.

  • edited June 26

    @oldsynthguy said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Robin2 said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Robin2 said:
    Just as I was getting closer and closer to buying Klevgrand Parrot, I’m now thinking this looks like a more interesting take on the recorded buffer manipulation type app.

    Just one question (haven’t fully watched videos or fully read manual yet): is it easy to set it up, or even possible, so that the tide/glade pitches respond to MIDI input?

    Good question. Only if you use Aqeel’s Waymaker sequencer, I think. That integration with Waymaker is covered in the manual and is actually very clever

    Okay, cool, I’ll look into that. Thanks @Gavinski, cheers.

    Those pitch knobs should really have more options imo.

    1. Totally free rate, not jumping in semitones

    I don't have the app yet, but isn't that covered in the settings (49 mins in his video)?

    I didn't see anything in settings and I remember this was missing from previous apps. You could check the manual if you want to be sure, everything is in there. I'm pretty sure it only does quantised pitch shifts (note: you can make shifts glide if you use Waymaker to sequence the pitch changes)

  • wimwim
    edited June 26

    @Gavinski said:

    @oldsynthguy said:
    I don't have the app yet, but isn't that covered in the settings (49 mins in his video)?

    I didn't see anything in settings and I remember this was missing from previous apps. You could check the manual if you want to be sure, everything is in there. I'm pretty sure it only does quantised pitch shifts

    The setting referred to there is only to limit quantization to 5ths and Octaves. There isn't a setting to turn off semitone quantization. Same goes for Weeping Wall and Ridgewalk.

  • @craftycurate said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @drconfusion said:
    This tool is so deep and so thoughtful and elegant, that I hauled off and also got waymaker and ridgewalk just to see what it’d be like to live in the Aqeel Aadam suggested ways of working. (& the soothing graphics honestly, encourage me to spend time in the apps too)

    & also? If you were try and patch all these functions in say, a Eurorack system, that would cost you, roughly, eleventy billion dollars.

    Yes, there's a tendency a lot of devs have to basically bring out new apps constantly, with pretty small feature sets, often, mind you, with a low price to match. I don't want to come across too critical of that, because I definitely understand the economic incentives behind it. But I do really appreciate Aqeel's thoughtful and slow approach. 2 apps a year, which seems to be his current speed, is a good number if you want to produce really solid, beautiful and original tools.

    +1 Couldn't agree more with these sentiments. His feature sets seem so beautifully crafted and thoughtfully curated.

    Not knocking other approaches, but some other devs I'm thinking of seem to chuck in loads of features into apps, and they end up feeling a bit of a feature mishmash which doesn't quite hang together as a cohesive whole with a strong identity.

    A couple of times while watching the video walkthrough for Coastline, I found myself hoping the app had a particular feature, and lo and behold, there it was! (in particular, a modulation section - and what a modulation section it is!, alongside the audio matrix, and also the ability to trigger the recording of a new Sustainer remotely from the DAW e.g. using FLFO or some such.

    Also, I love the way with Outgrowth, he carefully listened to user wishlist features, and incorporated nearly all of them into an upgrade. I think we can fully expect the dev to do the same here.

    Really looking forward to exploring this one.

    Yes, gotta say that the way he's kept updating Outgrowth and Waymaker has been fabulous. And really significant updates over long periods of time. I think it's because he's likely genuinely using his own apps all the time and thinking constantly 'oh, would be better if I added xyz'.

  • wimwim
    edited June 26

    @Gavinski said:

    @Robin2 said:
    Just as I was getting closer and closer to buying Klevgrand Parrot, I’m now thinking this looks like a more interesting take on the recorded buffer manipulation type app.

    Just one question (haven’t fully watched videos or fully read manual yet): is it easy to set it up, or even possible, so that the tide/glade pitches respond to MIDI input?

    Good question. Only if you use Aqeel’s Waymaker sequencer, I think. That integration with Waymaker is covered in the manual and is actually very clever

    Have you checked to see if there's an AUv3 parameter for it?

  • Outgrowth never did.

  • How long can recordings be? Searched the manual, couldn’t find an answer.

  • @ChimmyChungaFace said:
    How long can recordings be? Searched the manual, couldn’t find an answer.

    I mentioned this in my vid actually hehe, it's 15 seconds max

  • @wim said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Robin2 said:
    Just as I was getting closer and closer to buying Klevgrand Parrot, I’m now thinking this looks like a more interesting take on the recorded buffer manipulation type app.

    Just one question (haven’t fully watched videos or fully read manual yet): is it easy to set it up, or even possible, so that the tide/glade pitches respond to MIDI input?

    Good question. Only if you use Aqeel’s Waymaker sequencer, I think. That integration with Waymaker is covered in the manual and is actually very clever

    Have you checked to see if there's an AUv3 parameter for it?

    Didn't notice anything, just looked through

  • wimwim
    edited June 26

    @Gavinski said:

    @wim said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Robin2 said:
    Just as I was getting closer and closer to buying Klevgrand Parrot, I’m now thinking this looks like a more interesting take on the recorded buffer manipulation type app.

    Just one question (haven’t fully watched videos or fully read manual yet): is it easy to set it up, or even possible, so that the tide/glade pitches respond to MIDI input?

    Good question. Only if you use Aqeel’s Waymaker sequencer, I think. That integration with Waymaker is covered in the manual and is actually very clever

    Have you checked to see if there's an AUv3 parameter for it?

    Didn't notice anything, just looked through

    That's surprising. Ridgewalk and Weeping Wall have an AUv3 parameter for Pitch.
    That's a bit of a letdown. I hope that's just an oversight.

  • edited June 26

    @wim said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @wim said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Robin2 said:
    Just as I was getting closer and closer to buying Klevgrand Parrot, I’m now thinking this looks like a more interesting take on the recorded buffer manipulation type app.

    Just one question (haven’t fully watched videos or fully read manual yet): is it easy to set it up, or even possible, so that the tide/glade pitches respond to MIDI input?

    Good question. Only if you use Aqeel’s Waymaker sequencer, I think. That integration with Waymaker is covered in the manual and is actually very clever

    Have you checked to see if there's an AUv3 parameter for it?

    Didn't notice anything, just looked through

    That's surprising. Ridgewalk and Weeping Wall have a parameter for Pitch.
    bummer.

    Whats the name for it? Is it just called Pitch? There are a lot of parameters there. I'll take another quick look but it's a pain scouring those lists tbh, huge number of parameters. It should really be available as a button beside the knobs in the ui, would be so easy to add a little button toggle.

  • @Gavinski said:

    @wim said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @wim said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Robin2 said:
    Just as I was getting closer and closer to buying Klevgrand Parrot, I’m now thinking this looks like a more interesting take on the recorded buffer manipulation type app.

    Just one question (haven’t fully watched videos or fully read manual yet): is it easy to set it up, or even possible, so that the tide/glade pitches respond to MIDI input?

    Good question. Only if you use Aqeel’s Waymaker sequencer, I think. That integration with Waymaker is covered in the manual and is actually very clever

    Have you checked to see if there's an AUv3 parameter for it?

    Didn't notice anything, just looked through

    That's surprising. Ridgewalk and Weeping Wall have a parameter for Pitch.
    bummer.

    Whats the name for it? There are a lot of parameters there. I'll take another quick look but it's a pain scouring those lists tbh, huge number of parameters. It should really be available as a button beside the knobs in the ui, would be so easy to add a little button toggle.

    Maybe use the knob-twiddle method in Drambo, Loopy, or AUM to find it. I would think it would be "Tide Pitch" and "Glade Pitch" but that's just a guess.

  • @Gavinski said:

    @wim said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @wim said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Robin2 said:
    Just as I was getting closer and closer to buying Klevgrand Parrot, I’m now thinking this looks like a more interesting take on the recorded buffer manipulation type app.

    Just one question (haven’t fully watched videos or fully read manual yet): is it easy to set it up, or even possible, so that the tide/glade pitches respond to MIDI input?

    Good question. Only if you use Aqeel’s Waymaker sequencer, I think. That integration with Waymaker is covered in the manual and is actually very clever

    Have you checked to see if there's an AUv3 parameter for it?

    Didn't notice anything, just looked through

    That's surprising. Ridgewalk and Weeping Wall have a parameter for Pitch.
    bummer.

    Whats the name for it? Is it just called Pitch? There are a lot of parameters there. I'll take another quick look but it's a pain scouring those lists tbh, huge number of parameters. It should really be available as a button beside the knobs in the ui, would be so easy to add a little button toggle.

    To be clear btw, of course the Pitch knobs are exposed, but I don't see any unquantised pitch option, which is, I think, what you're a asking about.

  • @wim said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @wim said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @wim said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Robin2 said:
    Just as I was getting closer and closer to buying Klevgrand Parrot, I’m now thinking this looks like a more interesting take on the recorded buffer manipulation type app.

    Just one question (haven’t fully watched videos or fully read manual yet): is it easy to set it up, or even possible, so that the tide/glade pitches respond to MIDI input?

    Good question. Only if you use Aqeel’s Waymaker sequencer, I think. That integration with Waymaker is covered in the manual and is actually very clever

    Have you checked to see if there's an AUv3 parameter for it?

    Didn't notice anything, just looked through

    That's surprising. Ridgewalk and Weeping Wall have a parameter for Pitch.
    bummer.

    Whats the name for it? There are a lot of parameters there. I'll take another quick look but it's a pain scouring those lists tbh, huge number of parameters. It should really be available as a button beside the knobs in the ui, would be so easy to add a little button toggle.

    Maybe use the knob-twiddle method in Drambo, Loopy, or AUM to find it. I would think it would be "Tide Pitch" and "Glade Pitch" but that's just a guess.

    Or course those are exposed and they're on the ui too, sure. My point earlier, what I thought you were suggesting there might be a parameter for, is that there should be a toggle allowing you to make unquantised pitch adjustments. In his apps they're always just quantised to semitones, which is definitely a weakness.

  • wimwim
    edited June 26

    @Gavinski said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @wim said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @wim said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Robin2 said:
    Just as I was getting closer and closer to buying Klevgrand Parrot, I’m now thinking this looks like a more interesting take on the recorded buffer manipulation type app.

    Just one question (haven’t fully watched videos or fully read manual yet): is it easy to set it up, or even possible, so that the tide/glade pitches respond to MIDI input?

    Good question. Only if you use Aqeel’s Waymaker sequencer, I think. That integration with Waymaker is covered in the manual and is actually very clever

    Have you checked to see if there's an AUv3 parameter for it?

    Didn't notice anything, just looked through

    That's surprising. Ridgewalk and Weeping Wall have a parameter for Pitch.
    bummer.

    Whats the name for it? Is it just called Pitch? There are a lot of parameters there. I'll take another quick look but it's a pain scouring those lists tbh, huge number of parameters. It should really be available as a button beside the knobs in the ui, would be so easy to add a little button toggle.

    To be clear btw, of course the Pitch knobs are exposed, but I don't see any unquantised pitch option, which is, I think, what you're a asking about.

    No, I was asking about:

    @Robin2 said:
    Just one question (haven’t fully watched videos or fully read manual yet): is it easy to set it up, or even possible, so that the tide/glade pitches respond to MIDI input?

    I already know that there's no capability to disable semitone quantization ... as is the case in Ridgewalk and Weeping wall too. I agree it would be very useful.

  • @wim said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @wim said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @wim said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Robin2 said:
    Just as I was getting closer and closer to buying Klevgrand Parrot, I’m now thinking this looks like a more interesting take on the recorded buffer manipulation type app.

    Just one question (haven’t fully watched videos or fully read manual yet): is it easy to set it up, or even possible, so that the tide/glade pitches respond to MIDI input?

    Good question. Only if you use Aqeel’s Waymaker sequencer, I think. That integration with Waymaker is covered in the manual and is actually very clever

    Have you checked to see if there's an AUv3 parameter for it?

    Didn't notice anything, just looked through

    That's surprising. Ridgewalk and Weeping Wall have a parameter for Pitch.
    bummer.

    Whats the name for it? Is it just called Pitch? There are a lot of parameters there. I'll take another quick look but it's a pain scouring those lists tbh, huge number of parameters. It should really be available as a button beside the knobs in the ui, would be so easy to add a little button toggle.

    To be clear btw, of course the Pitch knobs are exposed, but I don't see any unquantised pitch option, which is, I think, what you're a asking about.

    No, I was asking about:

    @Robin2 said:
    Just one question (haven’t fully watched videos or fully read manual yet): is it easy to set it up, or even possible, so that the tide/glade pitches respond to MIDI input?

    I already know that there's no capability to disable semitone quantization ... as is the case in Ridgewalk and Weeping wall too.

    Oh yeah, sorry, got confused. I don't see anything for that in parameter list

  • @Gavinski said:

    Oh yeah, sorry, got confused. I don't see anything for that in parameter list

    Yeah, that'd be surprising if you could do something with a parameter that you can't do with a knob.

    Thanks for checking. I had hit pause on the insta-buy button for a little bit there until I knew if there was a parameter to automate the pitches. (In semitones. 😉)

  • wimwim
    edited June 26

    I'm looking forward to trying this out with the Waymaker integration. Waymaker is my favorite sequencer suite of all time.

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