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I want to spend as little money as possible. At the moment there are 4 apps fighting for my wallet's attention, and I need to get this down to two. Timeless is pretty much definite, so just plucking up the courage to jump in with Pro Q as well.
Doesn't ProMB cover all the basics that Pro Q does?
There are so many delay type of apps, on ther hand, I will say Saturn is the most unique type of plugin app! You never regret with Saturn!
If you can modulate the Saturn on it's bands you will get a beautifully distorted sounds! If I have time, I will soon try the midiLFOs on those vertical bands! It is like chopping board to cut your vegetable. The root part add some pepper and the leaves add parmeson cheese! How is that sounds!
Hmmm...can't find many decent vids for that one.
@Monzo - for maximum fun and knowing your music I'd advise you get Timeless and Saturn.
Saturn is ridiculously good. You can boost or suppress frequencies with it too (up to 6 bands) - so you can use it a bit like a crude EQ tool.
But the effects you can get, and modulate just just so cool. If you like dirty sounds you'll love it.
If only get ProQ if you want precise and serious technical mixing / mastering. You'll have tons more fun with Saturn for now.
And re the Twin thing - I think what was meant was the fact that if you are playing the Twin synth in Auria Pro you'd have a delay and filter built into it. But Auria Pro isn't out yet... And that doesn't help on any audio you bring in.
I wouldn't personally get Volcano. There's filters in many of the other plugins.
Your Johnny brother favors Volcano! I have no opinion because I like it too!
Here's your Saturn vid..
Thanks, had just found that - very impressive.
I was just thinking this while watching the video - it has decent tone controls which would be good enough for my needs, plus the whacky effects, and it's six quid cheaper than Pro Q. Hmmm
I do like it, but Timeless has a lot of filter controls as well. It doesn't really blow me away like Timeless does, and after watching the Saturn vid that looks pretty tasty too. If I had your money I'd get all three, but two's my limit unfortunately.
@Kaikoo MIDI LFO -> Saturn is a great idea. Can't wait to drum up the time and an excuse to try that out.
Too spicy, I am waiting Patterning app to chop it up!
pro q and Saturn are very different beasts. Saturn is an effects filter, that you can use to alter the tone. Pro q is a very price frequency boost/cut.
Having bought 5. I'd buy Saturn and Timeless for some fun in Auria and then invest in ProQ as and when you sit down to do some serious mixing / mastering...
Or just sod it and get all 3
I think you're absolutely spot on there. I'll get Timeless first and see how that behaves and check out some more Saturn vids, and probably get that one tomorrow. I think Saturn is going to provide the minor tweaks to EQ I'll need when putting a mix together, because to be honest I spend quite a bit of time getting it right before I record anyway.
Turnado does seem like a DJ's tool, until you discover that it does very good normal effects too. For instance, you can use a delay and nothing else, etc.
Good point. I presume you can create / add your own patches?
Saturn- realizing that it's multiband, don't be afraid to try it as a de-esser by compressing a small frequency range.
Pro-c can do this too by opening the advanced panel and using the INTERNAL side chain to select the low and high cutoffs, therefore just compressing that frequency range and leaving the others alone. So think of that as a single band pro-mb.
A pro pro-q thought...a good eq can be used on every mix you ever do on many many tracks. Too many delays or distortion a running can make a mess sometimes and other times be beautiful.
The channel strip eq is excellent but pro-q is a different approach to the same technique and has a lot of flexibility too.
good points @mrufino1.
Also maybe worth noting the routing changes coming in Auria Pro. I know MIDI is the 'big' thing but on the mixing front, Auria Pro is going to allow us to send any channel to more than one bus simultaneously. Lots of uses for that but one very practical old-school one is band limiting. For instance, we'll be able to send all drum channels to three busses at once. At the top of each bus, put a Pro-Q and set each one so that they are only allowing a certain frequency range through (like low, medium and high busses). Now you can have multi-band anything you want. The pain with doing it this way is getting the cross-over frequencies/slopes set correctly but it's absolutely doable and for certain things, totally worth the trouble.
That was a long way of saying I'm with @mrufino1 on the power/value/longevity of pro-q.
The routing is indeed the part I am excited about in the pro upgrade.
Yes, just leave slots empty where you don't want effects. I bought turnado for this reason, the crazier things it does don't really fit in the music I make. I love what others do with it though, very flexible plugin.
Yeah, with Turnado I was blown away when I hit the edit button. Wow! Deep stuff hidden in there behind the scenes! So much to tweak. Its a tweakers dream come true man!
I've decided against buying any plugins. Just had my IAA instrument issue with Auria again, and so thought I'd test how it'd react to an IAA effect being added to an existing audio track. Auria threw up a message, warning me to freeze tracks (I have 5 - all recorded audio and only 2 active effects, the song is 1 minute long, I have an Air 2 and loads if free space). I ignored this and tried Turnado, but it didn't work.
Update - just started a new test song, quickly created 8 tracks of IAA instruments, all running IAA effects with no issues. Bonkers.
Let our sales man sod! Hehe, we should play SpaceVibe + Frobulator. Good decision, mate!
Of course, there's a ProQ2 on the horizon as well, right? Agree with earlier posts, Timeless is fun (I once made a blippy patch on FM4 sound like rain) and Saturn is flat-out NUTS.
But you need some flavor of ProQ if you want to get serious with your mixes, even if, like @mrufino1 pointed out, the built in PSP channel strip EQs are awesome. And they are. They can get you 90% there. ProQ is for the ride home
If they (FabFilter) want to sell you Pro Q, they should at least give clear indication that Pro Q2 is a free upgrade or not? I am hesitated to buy it right away on Pro Q. I don't like business man's tricks!
Don't be too put off by IAA problems. The Fabfilter plug ins are not IAA. They are built in to Auria (and predate IAA) and very rarely have issues as far as I know. In fact in a perfect world devs would be making Auria versions of all their apps.
@monzo IAA sucks, that's exactly why the native effects such as the Fabfilters are so much better to use.
With IAA there is no state saving, so it's not really viable to use IAA in a live mix, you have to mixdown the effect. The native Auria effects are at least a million times more convenient and reliable.