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Xequence midi sequencer ?

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  • Normally i am Working with Notator sl beside Xequence. I like the implementation there.

  • Awesomeness! Thanking you muchly! :)

  • @colonelgeil said:
    Normally i am Working with Notator sl beside Xequence. I like the implementation there.

    Will take a look when I get around to it!

    @hellquist said:

    Awesomeness! Thanking you muchly! :)

    You're most welcomest!

  • edited November 2018

    @colonelgeil
    @SevenSystems said:
    Certainly... do you have any examples of what you would like to see, or an existing editor that you think is a good reference?

    I use the MIDI Macros app (only $0,99) to send SysEx to my Yamaha MX keyboard, since it’s the only simple app I found, but unfortunately I can’t link it to Xequence to send these messages in real time, it’s just a manual action.

    https://itunes.apple.com/ar/app/midi-macros/id1106868326?l=en&mt=8

    With MIDI Macros you can send any type of MIDI messages to any app/device, and SysEx is just one of the different message types besides a Control Change, Program Change, Note On, Note Off, After Touch, Channel Pressure, Pitch Bend Chang, Song Position Pointer, etc, etc.
    I believe that the addition of SysEx messages would add value to Xequence, since there are no MIDI sequencers capable of doing it in IOS (you can easily do it in Logic Pro, Reaper, etc) and the implementation should’t be too complex, it’s just an additional MIDI command like a CC, except it has a variable number of arguments. In other sequencers on the desktop you can not only input a string of bytes but you can also attach a text file to send a chunk of data (some SysEx messages can be long).
    As an example, I’m attaching a couple of pictures with a SysEx message I normally send to my Yamaha MX at the beggining of any session to set Local OFF.


  • @SevenSystems : finally got around to dissecting the alpha demo project. I am curious about how yo7 entered the MIDI CC values on the Dist->Gate track. That is a really awesome technique.

  • edited November 2018

    @colonelgeil said:
    Would it be possible to add a sysex editor ?

    Ohh, this would be great for the Sound Canvas app (there's a bunch of parameters not accessible except via SysEx).

    You could implement it basically the same way you currently do program change.

  • edited November 2018

    @espiegel123 said:
    @SevenSystems : finally got around to dissecting the alpha demo project. I am curious about how yo7 entered the MIDI CC values on the Dist->Gate track. That is a really awesome technique.

    :) That's how I do any kind of trance gates etc... with automation.

    There's a special mode for it in Xequence: on the keyboard screen, above the controller slider you want to "gate", tap the icon and set it to the "pulse" icon. After that, the slider works like a button (and will be recorded that way). Note that it will be much easier to record this if you use 1/2 tempo. You can quantize the recorded "gate" later in the controller editor. (for a 16th "trance gate" though, you'd need to set the grid to 32th before quantizing so that the low controller values can be separately caught in between).

    (the gate on "Dist" in Alpha also contains a section with double speed, I think I entered that manually after setting the grid to 64th and then used draw mode).

  • @busker said:

    @colonelgeil said:
    Would it be possible to add a sysex editor ?

    Ohh, this would be great for the Sound Canvas app (there's a bunch of parameters not accessible except via SysEx).

    You could implement it basically the same way you currently do program change.

    Yes, I had that in mind... but maybe there's also some devices which use Sysex (NO SwiftKey, NOT Sussex!) for continuous parameters, and in that case it would also be good to have "Sysex CCs"? i.e. where one of the bytes is a placeholder that gets filled with 0-127 from the controller?

  • @SevenSystems said:

    @busker said:

    @colonelgeil said:
    Would it be possible to add a sysex editor ?

    Ohh, this would be great for the Sound Canvas app (there's a bunch of parameters not accessible except via SysEx).

    You could implement it basically the same way you currently do program change.

    Yes, I had that in mind... but maybe there's also some devices which use Sysex (NO SwiftKey, NOT Sussex!) for continuous parameters, and in that case it would also be good to have "Sysex CCs"? i.e. where one of the bytes is a placeholder that gets filled with 0-127 from the controller?

    Yes, that would be fantastic; really happy that you are considering this stuff!

  • Hmmmmm @SevenSystems I finally got around to listening to the alpha demo. 😳👊. Wow that is crazy good. You have many talents my friend!!!

  • @Chaztrip said:
    Hmmmmm @SevenSystems I finally got around to listening to the alpha demo. 😳👊. Wow that is crazy good. You have many talents my friend!!!

    ...but am a total fail at some other, very important ones ;) hope you got all the IAPs in Gadget... better solo every track in Alpha one after the other to see if they all actually make sound. If not, you're missing some Gadget IAP :)

  • where is thi feature located? in piano roll? it sounds really cool. > @SevenSystems said:

    @espiegel123 said:
    @SevenSystems : finally got around to dissecting the alpha demo project. I am curious about how yo7 entered the MIDI CC values on the Dist->Gate track. That is a really awesome technique.

    :) That's how I do any kind of trance gates etc... with automation.

    There's a special mode for it in Xequence: on the keyboard screen, above the controller slider you want to "gate", tap the icon and set it to the "pulse" icon. After that, the slider works like a button (and will be recorded that way). Note that it will be much easier to record this if you use 1/2 tempo. You can quantize the recorded "gate" later in the controller editor. (for a 16th "trance gate" though, you'd need to set the grid to 32th before quantizing so that the low controller values can be separately caught in between).

    (the gate on "Dist" in Alpha also contains a section with double speed, I think I entered that manually after setting the grid to 64th and then used draw mode).

  • @SevenSystems said:

    @Chaztrip said:
    Hmmmmm @SevenSystems I finally got around to listening to the alpha demo. 😳👊. Wow that is crazy good. You have many talents my friend!!!

    ...but am a total fail at some other, very important ones ;) hope you got all the IAPs in Gadget... better solo every track in Alpha one after the other to see if they all actually make sound. If not, you're missing some Gadget IAP :)

    Dude really? I’m am appaholic. I have them all. 😁

  • @SevenSystems said:

    @Chaztrip said:
    Hmmmmm @SevenSystems I finally got around to listening to the alpha demo. 😳👊. Wow that is crazy good. You have many talents my friend!!!

    ...but am a total fail at some other, very important ones ;) hope you got all the IAPs in Gadget... better solo every track in Alpha one after the other to see if they all actually make sound. If not, you're missing some Gadget IAP :)

    Aren't we all. Most people I know who are really good at things, often have some parts missing too. We have to make the most out of it still though, and hopefully the good things outweigh the bad things in the long run. :)
    I have all the Gadget IAP's too and this thread made me sort out listening to the demo. Very very good. Also rejuvenates Gadget for me, this is probably how I should use it. Have otherwise mainly been using Xequence with LayR (which can have 16 channels if I'd like, never used that though) and Beathawk/BS-16i.

  • @SevenSystems : is there a mix online of the demo sequence. I don't have Abu Dhabi (about which I am on-the-fence) and curious about what it's track brings to the piece.

  • @espiegel123 sure, here's a Soundcloud:

    https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/comment/430988#Comment_430988

    @hellquist yes, Xequence + Gadget are an almost perfect combination. In fact that's how the entire project started :)

  • Has anybody tried Korg Electribe Wave with Xequence? Is it as good as Gadget-Xequence combo?

  • @Janosax said:
    Has anybody tried Korg Electribe Wave with Xequence? Is it as good as Gadget-Xequence combo?

    Yes. Works well for me.

  • @SevenSystems said:
    @hellquist yes, Xequence + Gadget are an almost perfect combination. In fact that's how the entire project started :)

    Funny that, as I often say that Xequence is the best piano roll that isn't locked into Gadget, where I quite like the piano roll, with the main drawback that it is tied into Gadget only, whereas Xequence is not. That has meant I haven't used it for Gadget, at all, but I now start to see it differently, and that it could be a combination of things that is the winning concept, where Gadget only plays its part as a sound module (or many). Hmm...

  • Gadget is a good sound module. I also like its sequencer/piano roll, but I got Xequence with the idea that it would often be replacing it.

    That Alpha demo is nice! I do have all the Gadget IAPs. :)

  • @SevenSystems : thoughts on Abu Dhabi and Bilbao?

    I am using Xeq a lot and really appreciating what you've built.

    Here are a few wish list items for Xeq that I have:

    • a cc fader bank or an on-screen keyboard mode that sends midi cc only and no note info. I like overdubbing my cc moves.
    • a "compact" view in the arranger that shows maximum one line per instrument that might have a visual indicator that there are multiple tracks for the instrument.
    • A piano roll option to show other selected tracks' notes in relief so that you can see how the notes on the tracks relate to each other. The Xx MIDI sequencer does this and it is super useful.
    • Commands (if they don't exist) to halve or double the time of the selection. I.e. halving the time of 2 measures of quarter notes would result in one measure of eighth notes.
  • @espiegel123 said:
    @SevenSystems : thoughts on Abu Dhabi and Bilbao?

    I am using Xeq a lot and really appreciating what you've built.

    Here are a few wish list items for Xeq that I have:

    • a cc fader bank or an on-screen keyboard mode that sends midi cc only and no note info. I like overdubbing my cc moves.
    • a "compact" view in the arranger that shows maximum one line per instrument that might have a visual indicator that there are multiple tracks for the instrument.
    • A piano roll option to show other selected tracks' notes in relief so that you can see how the notes on the tracks relate to each other. The Xx MIDI sequencer does this and it is super useful.
    • Commands (if they don't exist) to halve or double the time of the selection. I.e. halving the time of 2 measures of quarter notes would result in one measure of eighth notes.

    All good suggestions, most of them are already on my roadmap too... you can already record CCs separately though, unless I misunderstood something? Just delete the existing automation, go to the keyboard screen, show the CC sliders, record and start moving them.

  • @SevenSystems said:

    All good suggestions, most of them are already on my roadmap too... you can already record CCs separately though, unless I misunderstood something? Just delete the existing automation, go to the keyboard screen, show the CC sliders, record and start moving them.

    Thanks. I didn't realize till know that those faders worked for recording. Great!

    Is there a way to see the notes and all controllers on a track in the piano roll at the same time that I am overlooking?

  • Has anyone used Xequence MIDI to TC-Data with "MIDI Pass Through" to allow for touch manipulations of the MIDI streams before they hit Synths?

  • @McDtracy said:
    Has anyone used Xequence MIDI to TC-Data with "MIDI Pass Through" to allow for touch manipulations of the MIDI streams before they hit Synths?

    Dooowhatnow?

  • @aaronpc said:

    @McDtracy said:
    Has anyone used Xequence MIDI to TC-Data with "MIDI Pass Through" to allow for touch manipulations of the MIDI streams before they hit Synths?

    Dooowhatnow?

    Sorry. I bought TC-Data and it uses a lot of the user interface code from the TC-11 App.

    Find a TC-11 video and watch the way some fingers on the touchscreen control synths. Mind boggling user interface ideas.

    TC-Data uses some of the same touch screen ideas to send out MIDI Notes and CC's data to Apps.

    I notice TC-Data added MIDI Pass Through so I could use it as a MIDI Effect in a sense. Not as an AU MIDI FXF but just 3 apps running at the same time point to each other. Make some loops in Xequence using PolyHymnia for example and point the channels to TC-Data then set it up to accept MIDI and output changed MIDI streams to Apps. Then I use the TC-Data screen controls on the looping MIDI Streams. Otherwise TC-Data doesn't have rhythmic patterns just notes that follow screen finger movements.

    That's the idea. I'll let you know and see if it gives me something powerful.

    The TC folks also make a free App called TC-Performer and you can get some hands on with the best touch screen controls. It's pretty magical.

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @SevenSystems said:

    All good suggestions, most of them are already on my roadmap too... you can already record CCs separately though, unless I misunderstood something? Just delete the existing automation, go to the keyboard screen, show the CC sliders, record and start moving them.

    Thanks. I didn't realize till know that those faders worked for recording. Great!

    Is there a way to see the notes and all controllers on a track in the piano roll at the same time that I am overlooking?

    Showing other information for the same instrument as "ghosted" notes or controllers is high on the wish list. I hope to have it implemented soon!

  • edited December 2018

    @SevenSystems Hello, is it possible to record MPE swipes in xequence? I am trying to get it to work with KB-1 but can't manage to get the pitch swipes to be recorded. Thanks.

    Edit: well actually, the pitch is recorded. It's just I can't manage to have xequence play it on the roli app. So it might not be a problem with the sequencer.

    Edit2: In fact it seems it doesn't record it at the right scale. Is it possible to increase the pitch scale above 1 semi tone?

  • @Norbert said:
    @SevenSystems Hello, is it possible to record MPE swipes in xequence? I am trying to get it to work with KB-1 but can't manage to get the pitch swipes to be recorded. Thanks.

    Edit: well actually, the pitch is recorded. It's just I can't manage to have xequence play it on the roli app. So it might not be a problem with the sequencer.

    Edit2: In fact it seems it doesn't record it a the right scale. Is it possible to increase the pitch scale above 1 semi tone?

    Sorry, Xequence doesn't support MPE yet, just regular per-channel pitch bend (see my reply in the other topic :)). As to the range of the pitch bend in semitones, that's entirely up to the receiving app, Xequence has no control over that.

  • @SevenSystems said:

    @Norbert said:
    @SevenSystems Hello, is it possible to record MPE swipes in xequence? I am trying to get it to work with KB-1 but can't manage to get the pitch swipes to be recorded. Thanks.

    Edit: well actually, the pitch is recorded. It's just I can't manage to have xequence play it on the roli app. So it might not be a problem with the sequencer.

    Edit2: In fact it seems it doesn't record it a the right scale. Is it possible to increase the pitch scale above 1 semi tone?

    Sorry, Xequence doesn't support MPE yet, just regular per-channel pitch bend (see my reply in the other topic :)). As to the range of the pitch bend in semitones, that's entirely up to the receiving app, Xequence has no control over that.

    Oh ok thanks. Then I just need to extend the scale manually at the moment.

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