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BeatMaker 3 is Becoming more and more famous.can other IOS DAWs keep up?

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  • BM3 crashes on me as well. Not as stable as I’d like. But it’s all the other comments that make some people sound like they just want to sound off. What does professional even mean? Is a SP404 more or less professional than BM3?

  • The fact that the reviews for BM3 vary from “it lets me spit out professional quality tunes in less than hour” to “can’t get anything done, crashes all the time” is frankly, very suspicious for a prospective buyer like myself. So yeah I’m probably not gonna get it. Until I hear there are zero crashes whatsoever. None of my other apps crash. Maybe once a year, I dunno. Get your shit together devs then you can have my money.

  • edited September 2019

    @SlowwFloww said:

    @drez said:

    @vov said:
    I’m negative only about stuff that doesn’t work or people lying.

    You haven’t proven to anyone here that stuff doesn’t work. Show us video or anything that shows it.

    I will install BM3 again tomorrow and give it a try. It used to crash or bugs would show up within 15 mins..

    Don’t get me wrong. BM3 isn’t bug free. But then again...nothing is.

    My point is that pretty much anything can be used to make music. And IMO people here are making really good music. And we are all using these same tools. People are talking like these apps are zero or one. Either they work or they don’t. That’s just not the case. BM3 has bugs but I never felt like it would stop me from making music.

    ...and if all I’m doing is griping about it and not showing anything for it, meaning here’s stuff I CAN do, but I can’t with BM3 or insert-any-DAW-here because x y and z. Just saying “it sucks” with nothing to truly back it up with is trolling.

    I could easily show several bugs. But I can also show you something I cranked out with it anyway :smiley:, bugs be damned.

    It’s the incessant crying with zero to show for it (in regards to music) that is telling. It’s just trolling.

    Not saying YOU are doing that, I’m saying vov is.

  • @db909 said:
    The fact that the reviews for BM3 vary from “it lets me spit out professional quality tunes in less than hour” to “can’t get anything done, crashes all the time” is frankly, very suspicious for a prospective buyer like myself. So yeah I’m probably not gonna get it. Until I hear there are zero crashes whatsoever. None of my other apps crash. Maybe once a year, I dunno. Get your shit together devs then you can have my money.

    Then you will never buy it, probably.

    What other DAW type apps do you have that never crash?

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  • edited September 2019

    What was the old joke about Jesus and the devil’s experience using Windows? The devil was pissed because he kept losing all his work ‘cause Windows kept crashing but Jesus had a much better user experience because Jesus saves... 🤣

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  • @StudioES said:
    lol. :heartbreak: Maybe the Devil was the cause of the Zip disk's 'Click of Death'? And the ancient serpent was summoned when Ensoniq changed the color to red....

    🤣

  • edited September 2019

    Why feed this troll? He does this with every thread to derail it. He spits out nonsense all day and night, never has any proof, quotes advertisement like their suppose to be the holy grail and never showed any of his work or issues. He goes by various names in here and has been banned before here and at the Intua forum.

    For those having issues with BM3, hopefully the upcoming update will be more stable for you. Myself and the rest of the beta testers are doing the best we can.

    Will this update be crash free and include everything a lot of us asked for? NO but it’s a start in the right direction again. things are looking positive.

    Is it safe to buy it now or install it again? I say wait for the update and judge for yourself or hear/read what the masses have to say about it.

  • @hansjbs said:
    Why feed this troll? He does this with every thread to derail it. He spits out nonsense all day and night, never has any proof, quotes advertisement like their suppose to be the holy grail and never showed any of his work or issues. He goes by various names in here and has been banned before here and at the Intua forum.

    For those having issues with BM3, hopefully the upcoming update will be more stable for you. Myself and the rest of the beta testers are doing the best we can.

    Will this update be crash free and include everything a lot of us asked for? NO but it’s a start in the right direction again. things are looking positive.

    Is it safe to buy it now or install it again? I say wait for the update and judge for yourself or hear/read what the masses have to say about it.

    Sense outta nonsense.

  • @gusgranite said:

    @hansjbs said:
    Why feed this troll? He does this with every thread to derail it. He spits out nonsense all day and night, never has any proof, quotes advertisement like their suppose to be the holy grail and never showed any of his work or issues. He goes by various names in here and has been banned before here and at the Intua forum.

    For those having issues with BM3, hopefully the upcoming update will be more stable for you. Myself and the rest of the beta testers are doing the best we can.

    Will this update be crash free and include everything a lot of us asked for? NO but it’s a start in the right direction again. things are looking positive.

    Is it safe to buy it now or install it again? I say wait for the update and judge for yourself or hear/read what the masses have to say about it.

    Sense outta nonsense.

    B)

  • edited September 2019

    @AudioGus said:
    Ones that work for me which I often use...

    Zeeon
    Synthmaster One
    Factory
    Aparillo
    DRC
    Kauldron

    Yah getting to know the AUs, what works well and what doesn't, is a big part of it. Sure they are relatively cheap but some time does need to be invested and some just won't float unfortunately. A minefield at times. I think you tried Sunrizer and I had to scratch that one off my list due to problems.

    Add to that list iSEM ! Ironically, one of best sounding+most stable+most cpu efficient plugins is one of first AU plugins ever made :))

    • sounds at 90% like real SEMblance HW module (had one)
    • recently i did run !!40!! instances on my iPad Mini 5, 70% cpu load
    • it's UI is soo nice :)
  • Anyone here remember Reasonstation website from back in the early 2000s?
    These BM3 discussions are so similar.

  • @ph8aerror said:
    Anyone here remember Reasonstation website from back in the early 2000s?
    These BM3 discussions are so similar.

    Of course when people care about a certain software/hardware there’s always this type of discussion. I remember similar to NI Kore, maschine now these days, Akai MPCs (5000 was a shit show :D ) etc..

  • edited September 2019

    Load a sample , make your loop points , add some saturation, adjust cross fade , adjust start point , turn off disk streaming ,
    Hit reverse , boom , CrashMaker3 beats...

    PS. 100% reproducible (iOS 12.3 iPad 2018)

    Edit: Using the Hold envelop to few seconds for keeping the loop going...

  • edited September 2019

    The real question here is if BM3 can keep up with others at this point. BM3 is my personal go to app for beats but lacks some basic stuff like midi clock sync which is annoying. I think the only app that even comes close is GR-16 but is a totally different tool in many ways.

  • edited September 2019

    @Korakios said:
    Load a sample , make your loop points , add some saturation, adjust cross fade , adjust start point , turn off disk streaming ,
    Hit reverse , boom , CrashMaker3 beats...

    PS. 100% reproducible (iOS 12.3 iPad 2018)

    Didn’t crash for me. 2017 iPad 12.4
    How long is your loop?

  • @philowerx said:

    @Korakios said:
    Load a sample , make your loop points , add some saturation, adjust cross fade , adjust start point , turn off disk streaming ,
    Hit reverse , boom , CrashMaker3 beats...

    PS. 100% reproducible (iOS 12.3 iPad 2018)

    Didn’t crash for me. 2017 iPad 12.4
    How long is your loop?

    The samples are small, drum hits , make them like synth.
    But that’s a key question since I forgot to mention that I use the hold on the envelope to 2-3 seconds because I want to hear the loop points without having to press down the key.
    So either it crashes or mutes the sound.
    I found a bunch of crashlogs but is there a direct mail to send them (aka ticket) ?

  • @Korakios said:

    @philowerx said:

    @Korakios said:
    Load a sample , make your loop points , add some saturation, adjust cross fade , adjust start point , turn off disk streaming ,
    Hit reverse , boom , CrashMaker3 beats...

    PS. 100% reproducible (iOS 12.3 iPad 2018)

    Didn’t crash for me. 2017 iPad 12.4
    How long is your loop?

    The samples are small, drum hits , make them like synth.
    But that’s a key question since I forgot to mention that I use the hold on the envelope to 2-3 seconds because I want to hear the loop points without having to press down the key.
    So either it crashes or mutes the sound.
    I found a bunch of crashlogs but is there a direct mail to send them (aka ticket) ?

    I still couldn’t get it to crash. Just sent a PM.

  • @drez said:

    @vov said:

    @hansjbs said:
    :D :D :D This guys said “ I doubt it played any considerable part in any serious production.“ :D :D
    You have no idea!!!!!

    A BM3 update is coming soon. That’s all I’m gonna say.

    Of course that’s all you’re gonna say, because there’s not a single example of a serious production in Beatmaker you could show. Prove me wrong. :p
    It’s too unstable, which is sad, because the interface is great, built in fx and sampler are Ok, and it needs only a few features added to become the 1st proper DAW for iOS, but I’m afraid its whole internal structure should be rewritten for that.

    We’re all still waiting on a serious production from you on any platform.

    Don’t judge lest he be judged

    Any music cranked out from the buyer of any software is between the buyer, the software, and his creativity. Are we to judge what is good or bad or serious out of that? That isn’t a barometer. People crank out what I would consider terrible music all the time with thousands of dollars worth of hardware and software.

    So what?

    That’s completely up to them.

    But, since you want to judge others and say nothing they do is serious enough for you... let’s hear what you’ve got @vow. The time for criticism is over. It’s time you showed us what you are capable of. Let’s hear what serious music you are capable of on any platform. I’m willing to bet you’re all complaint and no substance.

    As you said above... Prove me wrong

    What is this, the school playground ?
    Nobody needs to provide any proof of their productions to have an opinion, even if they are a troll.

  • edited September 2019

    @philowerx said:

    @Korakios said:

    @philowerx said:

    @Korakios said:
    Load a sample , make your loop points , add some saturation, adjust cross fade , adjust start point , turn off disk streaming ,
    Hit reverse , boom , CrashMaker3 beats...

    PS. 100% reproducible (iOS 12.3 iPad 2018)

    Didn’t crash for me. 2017 iPad 12.4
    How long is your loop?

    The samples are small, drum hits , make them like synth.
    But that’s a key question since I forgot to mention that I use the hold on the envelope to 2-3 seconds because I want to hear the loop points without having to press down the key.
    So either it crashes or mutes the sound.
    I found a bunch of crashlogs but is there a direct mail to send them (aka ticket) ?

    I still couldn’t get it to crash. Just sent a PM.

    It seems simpler to crash . Just make the loop points (smaller than a sec) , put some crossfading, switch to AHD envelope and set hold to ~2sec then hit reverse .

    Thanks for the pm , I also made a screen recording to help him.

    BUT that’s the reason I don’t use CrashMaker3 , left the forums and don’t use the app.
    Excited to hear for upcoming update , hopefully BM3 will get regular updates ,paid or free...

  • edited September 2019

    @Korakios said:

    Hmm, I can’t repro this.

    Also tried hitting reverse and adding saturation. Am I missing something?

    Pro 10.5 12.something

    EDIT: Ahh, ok after a minute of just jumping all over and toggling reverse and mashing just about every option I could crash it.

    Tiny loops and single cycle waveforms are not my bag but yah if it is yours then for sure this is useless.

  • @drez said:

    @SlowwFloww said:

    @drez said:

    @vov said:
    I’m negative only about stuff that doesn’t work or people lying.

    You haven’t proven to anyone here that stuff doesn’t work. Show us video or anything that shows it.

    I will install BM3 again tomorrow and give it a try. It used to crash or bugs would show up within 15 mins..

    Don’t get me wrong. BM3 isn’t bug free. But then again...nothing is.

    Here's the video.. Fresh install of BM3, cold boot of my iPad 2017. iPadOS 13.1

    2 iSEM crashes within 10 mins
    at 3:28
    at 9:04

  • edited September 2019

    @SlowwFloww said:

    @drez said:

    @SlowwFloww said:

    @drez said:

    @vov said:
    I’m negative only about stuff that doesn’t work or people lying.

    You haven’t proven to anyone here that stuff doesn’t work. Show us video or anything that shows it.

    I will install BM3 again tomorrow and give it a try. It used to crash or bugs would show up within 15 mins..

    Don’t get me wrong. BM3 isn’t bug free. But then again...nothing is.

    Here's the video.. Fresh install of BM3, cold boot of my iPad 2017. iPadOS 13.1

    2 iSEM crashes within 10 mins
    at 3:28
    at 9:04

    Solution: don’t use iSEM and BM3 together

    Also, thank you for saving me 14$

  • @SlowwFloww said:

    @drez said:

    @SlowwFloww said:

    @drez said:

    @vov said:
    I’m negative only about stuff that doesn’t work or people lying.

    You haven’t proven to anyone here that stuff doesn’t work. Show us video or anything that shows it.

    I will install BM3 again tomorrow and give it a try. It used to crash or bugs would show up within 15 mins..

    Don’t get me wrong. BM3 isn’t bug free. But then again...nothing is.

    Here's the video.. Fresh install of BM3, cold boot of my iPad 2017. iPadOS 13.1

    2 iSEM crashes within 10 mins
    at 3:28
    at 9:04

    The iSEM issue is not BM3 fault, it’s needs to be updated.
    It also crashes In Cubasis

  • @Paa89 said:

    @SlowwFloww said:

    @drez said:

    @SlowwFloww said:

    @drez said:

    @vov said:
    I’m negative only about stuff that doesn’t work or people lying.

    You haven’t proven to anyone here that stuff doesn’t work. Show us video or anything that shows it.

    I will install BM3 again tomorrow and give it a try. It used to crash or bugs would show up within 15 mins..

    Don’t get me wrong. BM3 isn’t bug free. But then again...nothing is.

    Here's the video.. Fresh install of BM3, cold boot of my iPad 2017. iPadOS 13.1

    2 iSEM crashes within 10 mins
    at 3:28
    at 9:04

    The iSEM issue is not BM3 fault, it’s needs to be updated.
    It also crashes In Cubasis

    It sounds stable in NS2. At least I assume so if @dendy uses it?

  • @AudioGus said:

    @SlowwFloww said:

    @drez said:

    @SlowwFloww said:

    @drez said:

    @vov said:
    I’m negative only about stuff that doesn’t work or people lying.

    You haven’t proven to anyone here that stuff doesn’t work. Show us video or anything that shows it.

    I will install BM3 again tomorrow and give it a try. It used to crash or bugs would show up within 15 mins..

    Don’t get me wrong. BM3 isn’t bug free. But then again...nothing is.

    Here's the video.. Fresh install of BM3, cold boot of my iPad 2017. iPadOS 13.1

    2 iSEM crashes within 10 mins
    at 3:28
    at 9:04

    Solution: don’t use iSEM and BM3 together

    Also, thank you for saving me 14$

    Yeah maybe the problem iSEM..

    I'll try some other synths, then you might save some more money ;-)

    Here's a bug of not saving midi input channel with a bank..

  • edited September 2019

    @SlowwFloww said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @SlowwFloww said:

    @drez said:

    @SlowwFloww said:

    @drez said:

    @vov said:
    I’m negative only about stuff that doesn’t work or people lying.

    You haven’t proven to anyone here that stuff doesn’t work. Show us video or anything that shows it.

    I will install BM3 again tomorrow and give it a try. It used to crash or bugs would show up within 15 mins..

    Don’t get me wrong. BM3 isn’t bug free. But then again...nothing is.

    Here's the video.. Fresh install of BM3, cold boot of my iPad 2017. iPadOS 13.1

    2 iSEM crashes within 10 mins
    at 3:28
    at 9:04

    Solution: don’t use iSEM and BM3 together

    Also, thank you for saving me 14$

    Yeah maybe the problem iSEM..

    I'll try some other synths, then you might save some more money ;-)

    Here's a bug of not saving midi input channel with a bank..

    Yah I do know of that one. Since we are sharing in the OT bug reportfest...

    Despite these it clearly DOMINATEZ!!!

  • edited September 2019

    @SlowwFloww said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @SlowwFloww said:

    @drez said:

    @SlowwFloww said:

    @drez said:

    @vov said:
    I’m negative only about stuff that doesn’t work or people lying.

    You haven’t proven to anyone here that stuff doesn’t work. Show us video or anything that shows it.

    I will install BM3 again tomorrow and give it a try. It used to crash or bugs would show up within 15 mins..

    Don’t get me wrong. BM3 isn’t bug free. But then again...nothing is.

    Here's the video.. Fresh install of BM3, cold boot of my iPad 2017. iPadOS 13.1

    2 iSEM crashes within 10 mins
    at 3:28
    at 9:04

    Solution: don’t use iSEM and BM3 together

    Also, thank you for saving me 14$

    Yeah maybe the problem is iSEM..
    I'll try some other synths, then you might save some more money ;-)

  • edited September 2019

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