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How do you Managing all the files?
I’m just a tinkerer with the synths, and I’ve got a LOT of files & folders of various attempts. It does seem to be a bit of a PITA find old stuff... where new stuff went... and just keeping track of the various projects.
Just wondering if anybody has come with clever schemes to manage all the Stuff that can accumulate.
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It’s a good question. I struggle with this a bit as well, so much so that I often dump a lot of files just to tidy up... don’t get me wrong none of them are any good really.
I really like the way Cyclop allows you to find patches. I would pay for a standalone version of that system for files.
I’m always behind on keeping things tidy, because time has to be set aside, and I use that time to make more Stuff. I keep all the useful items in AudioShare, and take advantage of the top tier filing features therein. It’s a mess, my collection, is. It would’ve been so much better if I had filed properly the first time a .wav was saved (than to try to build files later.) But I’m slowly chipping away at the unfiled portion of 20gb of goodies I’ve accumulated.
A lot of cooking involves keeping the kitchen clean as you go. I’m better at that if I’m actually in a kitchen cooking.
+1 Audioshare is THE HUB for all things audio.. easy to access, easy to store into, easy to get stuff out..
One word: AudioShare.
http://kymatica.com/apps/audioshare
Audioshare is almost obsolete imo because of iCloud. I have a folder called Music in iCloud that has a subfolder for each song. In that subfolder I put all samples, presets, mixdowns related to that song.
Other folders called samples, ideas etc are good for whacking other bits in.
Nicely organised and automatically backed up to the cloud, and available on all your iOS devices.
In iOS13, AudioShare is no longer available from the Share menu in every audio app I’ve tested. Anyone else have this issue?
Nonsense.
You really trust cloud services 100%..?
One day there will be an outage at iCloud and you will lose all your data. I hope you have it backed up locally.
You could store it in an app called AudioShare for safe keeping.
Yes the data is stored locally and in the cloud. That’s how it works.
As long as you keep some free space on your device the files stay there.
If you’re really paranoid you can copy from the iCloud folder to the ‘on this device’ (or whatever it’s called) folder in the files app
I gave up trying to be organised years ago. I have working folders for current projects, but once a track is finished I delete everything.
I figure I’m not going to get a call from a famous producer asking me for stems for a remix, so it’s good to reclaim the disk space.
Eek. That's worrying!
You can still use the 'Files' option and dump the file into AudioShare, so no worries there...
Yep, that’s the ticket. Thanks.
Everything in AudioShare always!
Then to Dropbox and/or iCloud Drive for peace of mind.
Well, now that Files can see an attached SD card, I’m thinking of using that for project storage. It has the added advantage of being portable for those times when you want to mix computer and ios audio in the same project.
This. Audioshare for local files. iCloud for apps that use it for syncs, files, presets, settings, etc. Dropbox is backup for everything.
You could use > @gregsmith said:
Also, there is no risk of losing data in cloud due to MILLIONS of servers spread across global regions - redundantly. You should be more concerned about losing data storing your files in local devices or thumb drives. Servers crash all the time and that is why redundancy is the key. A small region may get temporary disruption when outages occur but redundant slave servers are brought back to restore service and continue business. If there is a risk of losing data, businesses like Google, Amazon, Apple, Yahoo won’t sustain. Everything we use online are stored on servers/cloud - email, Dropbox, Facebook, Twitter, insurance, government data...
https://www.google.com/search?q=disaster+recovery+business+continuity
Facebook adds truckloads of servers to their data centers each day to store users photos, videos, etc.
https://www.google.com/search?q=facebook+servers&rlz=&tbm=vid
https://www.google.com/search?q=facebook+servers
So, you are actually damaging the environment when you store your data in the cloud...?
Apple data centers are GREEN!!
I don't care what colour they are, the point I'm making is aren't they damaging the environment?
What about FaceBook, DropBox etc...?
Thanks to all for the comments. I do (and have) used Audio Share- even that is getting kinda full. Will have to look a iCloud and USB flash drives. 😸
As an iOS user, I’m concerned about Apple and their data centers are 100% go-green and not damaging the environment.
https://www.google.com/search?q=apple+data+center+green&rlz=&tbm=vid
https://www.google.com/search?q=apple+data+center+green
Speaking about the data centers of other businesses, there are worse things in the world that are more damaging to the environment than data centers. Water bottles, plastic bags, other waste... The furor was hyped up by Apple haters in the past about its data centers (just as they criticized Foxconn worker situation even though all others like Microsoft, Dell, HP, etc also use Foxconn to manufacture their devices) and Apple answered them by going green.
The thing with the cloud is at the end of the day you have no control over your data. The company running the servers has the control. If they stuff up or suddenly go out of business your data is gone.
But big companies are not going to go out of business people say - Kodak, Pan Am, Commodore...etc...
Why do you say Apple and it’s iCloud (their cash cow service) would go out of business?
Dropbox is cloud too and so is Google, Gmail... It doesn’t matter if people call it cloud or servers - they are just a bunch of server computers at a data center of the hosting provider storing our files.
I didn't say they would. I said that you can never be sure.
If you said to someone in 1990 that a huge international company like Kodak would go broke they would have laughed at you. If you said to someone in 2000 that global market leader Nokia would fail at the mobile phone business they would have laughed at you. I've used Apple computers since 1981 and seen them nearly go under in the late 1990s only to survive and become what they are today thanks to the iPod/iPad/iPhone. But that could all change over a decade or so depending on what their competition comes up with.
The reality is: you never know.
That's why I don't trust any of them 100%.
In this day and age, a vast majority of our data gets stored on some remote servers and we are not in control. Our email, health, insurance, financial info, etc. Storing files on home devices and thumb drives is risky and an accident waiting to happen. That is like hosting our own web server which we can never do perfectly and securely - it needs uninterrupted power supply, climate control, security features, firewalls, redundancy, disaster recovery, automation, etc. A damaged or lost device is all that it takes and there is no recovery.
Hosting providers do it for a living and they do it right and very cheaply. Services like iCloud, Dropbox host and manage data right. These services are more secure and trustworthy than our personal devices. They sustain because of the trust they gained from us and they work to retain that trust - it is their Mission Statement. In the event of business going down, they send a notification months in advance to download/save our files elsewhere.
As mentioned earlier, using cloud services stores local copies on our device. Our data is not lost even if the service goes out of business. I don’t understand why people keep saying they don’t trust cloud when we live and breathe in cloud and there is no other way.
I think this generally only happens when you don’t have much room left on your device so iCloud automatically takes away local versions of files you haven’t opened for a while. That’s the theory anyway I think?
I guess it’s different for everyone. I can’t think of any time I don’t have an internet connection so doesn’t bother me if I have to download a preset every now and then. I’ll take that, if it means I can have all my stuff synced on my iPad, iPhone and Mac automatically.
I back up my masters and stems to dropbox but not worried about the rest.
That's why you have multiple backups. It worked in the 1980s and it works today.
Well, there IS another way. The computer world existed before the cloud was a thing.
And people don't trust them because every major tech corporation has been hacked, from Apple to Mirosoft to Sony etc...
Man, you really have drunk the "cloud cool aid"...