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SynthMaster One v1.3 Universal Public Beta available

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  • NoiseFlooredNoiseFloored

    @kv331audio_bulent alright, I tried the ipad version and things are clearer for me now: I can trigger inertial scrolling just fine, and it mostly behaves the same as regular iOS scrolling, maybe with a bit of choppiness in the animation (which I don't have with non-inertial scrolling), but without real issues. If I want to stop this inertial scrolling, on the other hand, I have to tap it or hold it, without moving my finger, whereas regular iOS inertial scrolling can be "grabbed" by sliding a finger. Now that I understand the difference I can work around it, so it's not a blocker at all for me :)

  • MobileMusicMobileMusic
    edited January 2020

    @anickt said:

    @MobileMusic said:
    @kv331audio_bulent
    I Just tried exporting a preset from preset browser cog wheel menu to Google Drive through Files. SM1 crashed. I tried again and it did not crash but the file is not getting uploaded to GD

    Working for me going to iCloud and Dropbox. Would be nice to be able to export a single file or a selection of files. That would avoid having a bunch of duplicates.

    It did not work with Google Drive (crashed a couple of times while exporting). Even when it did not crash, it did not upload files to selected folder in GD.

    Just tested Dropbox export and that works.

    @kv331audio_bulent , under Favorites, the export and a few other options are missing when there is only one preset in the fav bank. Export option and a few other options are also getting hidden when filtered by Author, etc. in some banks. under what circumstances do these options get hidden?

  • MobileMusicMobileMusic
    edited January 2020

    @craftycurate said:

    @kv331audio_bulent said:

    @craftycurate said:
    So it's working on some systems. On mine, the reported behaviour occurs with almost 100% consistency, with minor variation in exact finger placement and pressure to be expected.

    So far you're the only user reporting this issue (touches not working with knobs/sliders). So far we have at least 100 users testing on iPhone/iPad. I'll try to reproduce if I can...

    It seems in 1.3b2 that if part of my finger is outside the touch area, the control does not respond. Have you shrunk the touch area for controls in the new beta? That would explain the change in behaviour from 1.2 to 1.3b2.

    I too felt the hit area is reduced a bit in beta.

  • Tones4ChristTones4Christ

    So i redownloaded the regular Synthmaster One on ipad to buy the desktop 1250 presets. Will they still transfer to the universal SM One?

  • Tones4ChristTones4Christ

    When does the sale end?

    @anickt said:

    @RJB said:
    @kv331audio_bulent
    How will I buy the full 1250 presets packages before the sale ends if I’m using the beta?

    Good question

  • Tones4ChristTones4Christ

    Anyone? Where is the IAP store inside SM1 non beta?

  • Tones4ChristTones4Christ

    Never mind just figured it out. SM1 beta will let everyone test app and IAP and once released IAP will be available for purchase for $9.99. No wonder no IAP store available in regular SM1.

  • kv331audio_bulentkv331audio_bulent

    @RJB said:
    @kv331audio_bulent
    How will I buy the full 1250 presets packages before the sale ends if I’m using the beta?

    There is no discount for the IAP, it's regular price is $9.99. So once we release officially, you can buy it. (OR if you have SynthMaster One desktop already, it's free for you -> Complete registration with your desktop serial number and you're done)

  • kv331audio_bulentkv331audio_bulent

    @anickt said:
    Working for me going to iCloud and Dropbox. Would be nice to be able to export a single file or a selection of files. That would avoid having a bunch of duplicates.

    You CAN already export

    1. a single file (when the preset is loaded, hit the save button)
    2. multiple files (selected on the browser)
  • kv331audio_bulentkv331audio_bulent

    @craftycurate said:
    Have you shrunk the hit area for controls in the new beta? That would explain the change in touch response from 1.2 to 1.3b2.

    No I did not, just the opposite: I increased the touch detection area for knobs and sliders.

  • kv331audio_bulentkv331audio_bulent

    @MobileMusic said:
    @kv331audio_bulent , under Favorites, the export and a few other options are missing when there is only one preset in the fav bank. Export option and a few other options are also getting hidden when filtered by Author, etc. in some banks. under what circumstances do these options get hidden?

    Export menu is only visible for presets saved under your local presets folder (I might be checking the author name as well. Will double check this condition)

  • david_2017david_2017

    @kv331audio_bulent said:

    @RJB said:
    @kv331audio_bulent
    How will I buy the full 1250 presets packages before the sale ends if I’m using the beta?

    There is no discount for the IAP, it's regular price is $9.99. So once we release officially, you can buy it. (OR if you have SynthMaster One desktop already, it's free for you -> Complete registration with your desktop serial number and you're done)

    AWESOME!!!! Thanks Bulent!

  • DMfanDMfan
    edited January 2020

    @kv331audio_bulent said:

    @craftycurate said:
    Have you shrunk the hit area for controls in the new beta? That would explain the change in touch response from 1.2 to 1.3b2.

    No I did not, just the opposite: I increased the touch detection area for knobs and sliders.

    I just tested every single knob and slider available in the app. I have no issues with touch response in 1.3b2, they all function as expected as far as I can tell. I am on iPad 2018 iPadOS 13.3.

    Just wanted to mention I am also very happy about the new stuff from Luke Neptune. For me, it adds a more analogue dimension than before to the app, very nice!

    👊

  • kv331audio_bulentkv331audio_bulent

    There's definitely an issue with listbox/menu/treeview taps, which I'm fixing today.

  • craftycuratecraftycurate
    edited January 2020

    @kv331audio_bulent said:

    @craftycurate said:
    Have you shrunk the hit area for controls in the new beta? That would explain the change in touch response from 1.2 to 1.3b2.

    No I did not, just the opposite: I increased the touch detection area for knobs and sliders.

    That's odd... it doesn't explain why the GUI behaviour seems to suggest the opposite, as it is definitely more difficult to find the hit area in the new beta. I've tried nearly every screen control in both versions with the same result.

  • kv331audio_bulentkv331audio_bulent
    edited January 2020

    @craftycurate said:
    That's odd... it doesn't explain why the GUI behaviour seems to suggest the opposite, as it is definitely more difficult to find the hit area in the new beta. I've tried nearly every screen control in both versions with the same result.

    There's a 100 milliseconds threshold to activate parameter change for knobs/sliders. That's to prevent value change when user swipes left/right to switch the current page (on iPhones)

    When you press on a knob/slider, do you see the parameter name/value on the top header ?

  • craftycuratecraftycurate

    @kv331audio_bulent said:

    @craftycurate said:
    That's odd... it doesn't explain why the GUI behaviour seems to suggest the opposite, as it is definitely more difficult to find the hit area in the new beta. I've tried nearly every screen control in both versions with the same result.

    There's a 100 milliseconds threshold to activate parameter change for knobs/sliders. That's to prevent value change when user swipes left/right to switch the current page (on iPhones)

    When you press on a knob/slider, do you see the parameter name/value on the top header ?

    That’s what it is ... I’m used to controls being instantly responsive. It seems that if my finger is moving when it touches the hit area i.e. already begun to swipe when it touches the screen, the control does not register the press. I had to lift my finger and try again.

    The 100ms seems on paper like no time at all but it is long enough to feel like an interruption to smooth operation in the flow of a creative moment. But maybe that’s down to how I’m used to working, with instant responsiveness from GUIs. Is it possible to shorten this to 50ms?

  • kv331audio_bulentkv331audio_bulent

    @craftycurate said:
    That’s what it is ... I’m used to controls being instantly responsive. It seems that if my finger is moving when it touches the hit area i.e. already begun to swipe when it touches the screen, the control does not register the press. I had to lift my finger and try again.

    The 100ms seems on paper like no time at all but it is long enough to feel like an interruption to smooth operation in the flow of a creative moment. But maybe that’s down to how I’m used to working, with instant responsiveness from GUIs. Is it possible to shorten this to 50ms?

    If you have to detect multiple gestures (tap, long press, swipe from parent container) then there should be some limits like this. I will test with 50 ms, but then how will the control detect taps to display the context menu (to add/remove modulations, midi learn, etc)...

  • MichaelRocketshipMichaelRocketship
    edited January 2020

    I’m having an issue when loading presets I made in the previous public build.

    They load fine from the browser and can be played but when I press ‘Browse’ to go back to the synth to edit the sound, the app immediately crashes. This has happened with both beta builds.

    If the preset is saved as a new version with a new name and that version is loaded from the browser, you can go back to the synth page with no issues, so the presets can be salvaged. Might be a hassle if you’ve loads of custom presets.

    Anyone else seeing this happen?

    Also: Cloud sync between the iOS and desktop versions is working great. Incredibly useful!

  • anicktanickt

    @kv331audio_bulent said:

    @anickt said:
    Working for me going to iCloud and Dropbox. Would be nice to be able to export a single file or a selection of files. That would avoid having a bunch of duplicates.

    You CAN already export

    1. a single file (when the preset is loaded, hit the save button)
    2. multiple files (selected on the browser)

    Of course! 😆

  • Matt_Fletcher_2000Matt_Fletcher_2000

    “Files App integration: Users can now import/export presets, waveforms and scales using the Files app browser interface introduced with iOS 11.“

    Cool!

    So presumably I can load in Serum-type wavetables from the internet into SynthMaster One on my iPhone now and make presets from these to use in the AU in NS2?

    That would be excellent.

  • RJBRJB
    edited January 2020

    @kv331audio_bulent said:

    @RJB said:
    @kv331audio_bulent
    How will I buy the full 1250 presets packages before the sale ends if I’m using the beta?

    There is no discount for the IAP, it's regular price is $9.99. So once we release officially, you can buy it. (OR if you have SynthMaster One desktop already, it's free for you -> Complete registration with your desktop serial number and you're done)

    @kv331audio_bulent Thanks for clarifying. There are so many beautiful presets I will definitely be purchasing. Thank-you and your team for this top shelf app, absolutely delightful.

  • kv331audio_bulentkv331audio_bulent

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    So presumably I can load in Serum-type wavetables from the internet into SynthMaster One on my iPhone now and make presets from these to use in the AU in NS2?

    That IS already possible :) Please watch the video starting at 10:30. We support wav/aiff files with sample lengths multiples of 2048 (2048 is our single cycle waveform length)

  • MobileMusicMobileMusic

    @kv331audio_bulent "Files App integration: Users can now import/export presets, waveforms and scales using the Files app browser interface introduced with iOS 11.“

    Do these changes meet @brice 's needs to continue work on his preset libraries?

  • Matt_Fletcher_2000Matt_Fletcher_2000
    edited January 2020

    @kv331audio_bulent said:

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    So presumably I can load in Serum-type wavetables from the internet into SynthMaster One on my iPhone now and make presets from these to use in the AU in NS2?

    That IS already possible :) Please watch the video starting at 10:30. We support wav/aiff files with sample lengths multiples of 2048 (2048 is our single cycle waveform length)

    Thanks. I know it was possible on an iPad. But couldn’t see a way to import on iPhone.

  • anicktanickt

    Is anyone else seeing this? When I import a waveform or wavetable it will not load into Osc 1. It will load into Osc 1 Sub, Osc 2, Osc 2 Sub and into LFO’s. I’ve tried a few different things and it’s only Osc 1 which does this. I’ve reported it but curious to see if anyone else sees it. User waveforms and wavetables are a very powerful feature of SM1.

  • kv331audio_bulentkv331audio_bulent

    @anickt said:
    Is anyone else seeing this? When I import a waveform or wavetable it will not load into Osc 1. It will load into Osc 1 Sub, Osc 2, Osc 2 Sub and into LFO’s. I’ve tried a few different things and it’s only Osc 1 which does this. I’ve reported it but curious to see if anyone else sees it. User waveforms and wavetables are a very powerful feature of SM1.

    I will debug that tomorrow, no worries it will be fixed :)

  • kv331audio_bulentkv331audio_bulent

    @MobileMusic said:
    Do these changes meet @brice 's needs to continue work on his preset libraries?

    I believe so.

  • kv331audio_bulentkv331audio_bulent
    edited January 2020

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    Thanks. I know it was possible on an iPad. But couldn’t see a way to import on iPhone.

    Now it's possible with the import waveforms menu:

  • yowzayowza

    I know you probably don’t want to support this but I installed SM1 in my iPhone 5s and it sounds great but the main window is chopped off on the right side so you can’t edit or easily get to controls and has black borders on both sides. I realize you might not want to support or fix this but thought I’d throw it out there.

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