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@Blue_Mangoo: Did you see my post earlier about the Clapton “Beano” tone?
I saw it but forgot to write it down on my list. Thanks for reminding me.
Thanks. If you have a les paul, I would really like to have a short recording of some blues riffs played dry straight into the ipad. That would make it much easier to get an accurate match of the tone in the video.
Awesome! You’re da man!! 👊🏼😁
This is a good survey of the Amp Simulator "plug-in" marketplace:
https://www.idesignsound.com/the-best-amp-simulators-on-the-market-right-now
That would indicate how your app would be evaluated if it's marketed as an Amp Sim
plug-in for IOS. How many IOS Apps work in DAW's:
ToneStack (IAA)
Amplitube (IAA)
ToneBrdige (IAA)
Stark (AUv3)
Midi Guitar 2 (IAA) and as AUv3 Host to add more FX (It's a Host! too).
ReAmp (Limited feature set AUv3) might not pass the sniff test by not emulating classic "Amps"
Sound wise Gain Stage completes but it might get hammered by reviewers but it's he best Plug-in for my money on IOS. I don't want all those 2nd class Stomp Boxes to make it sound even worse.
Do one thing and be the best at it. Don't try to make everyone happy. Make your self happy and sell your vision. It can change the criteria for a plug-in. Sound a plug-in "host" FX.
I know it can but should it? Not in AUM as far as I'm concerned. AUM cables together
a "pedal board". Maybe Gain Stage is a pedal "Amp Sim" plug-in and not a "Guitar Rig emulator". We're all going that way and not back to the all-in-one Amp Sim products.
They all sound flawed to me.
It's the sound! Of course you'll need 100+ Tones in the app to have enough for the market.
Roadmap your vision. Then we can make a thread bitching about having to wait.
Or leave the TestFilght open forever with 10 tones and slip great "tested" Tones into the product.
Tonebridge is AUv3 as well.
Excellent. I will get dry riffs to you soon!
I also have a problem with the input levels. Initially I had level metres in the app but they weren’t very helpful for preventing clipping because when the input clips at the audio interface, the digital signal still doesn’t actually exceed 0 dB.
Unlike your audio interface, the amp models in gain stage don’t have any problem with the input coming in too hot. I usually run the plugin with a parametric EQ before the input that I use to boost the gain into distortion. Since I typically run the input far above or below the intended input level, I didn’t find it useful to look at an input meter. There isn’t a “right” input level. It just depends on what tone you want.
I've sent you recordings from two different metal guitars with two different sets of humbuckers.
Thank you!
I received an email just now but I only found one recording attached.
That's right. I refuse to use it because it's free. It's must be crap. How can any small developer compete with Free? Unfair. It's a come-on from the Tab vendor "Ultimate Guitar".
they want more Guitar addicts in the world. "Guitars Not Guns" I can get behind but not
Tab sellers. I subscribed for a year so I know how addicting tab can become. And it's not really rhythmically accurate. Sometimes you need the small details. So, I started learning to
read on guitar. Much better but a long journey of a thousand mistakes.
I just used Gain Stage to add some grit to some violins. It's a powerful FX tool. Use it while it free to use. Use it on salads, in soups, and even Hip-Hop. It's got Street Cred too.
I've just sent them again. Something went wrong on the phone 😬
Thanks. Actually I got them the first time and already did the acoustic amp settings for them. Sorry about that. I got confused about which email address corresponds to which audiobus forum name.
Those guitars were more difficult to convert to an acoustic sound than mine was. I’m not as happy with the result. But it will work to some degree.
Is it possible to create an Amp model that behaves like the Marshall with a Les Paul?
He just turns the knobs on the Les Paul, doesn't touch the Marshall or have any A/B pedals and gets 2 completely distinct tones. I didn't even know I needed such a thing until he
produced this sounds.
Still, I'll take each in a separate Preset and be very, very happy too.
I can do the Preset switching.
If you implement "MIDI Program Change" (and "Bank Select") that would help offer a workaround too. Assuming low latency for PC set-ups. That's probably the best answer to keep it agile... might be tricky and DAW dependent like side-chaining is.
Generally, that's how a good amp should respond—it cleans up when you give it less gain (read: volume) via the guitar.
I think it will be possible to do that. I would need a recording of a les paul played at both of those volume levels to use as a reference.
I can provide that as well.
Yes. However, it is possible to produce a software model that sounds right at one volume level but not at another. Thats especially likely to happen when using the wrong kind of guitar for calibrating the amp voicing. For example, we can use EQ to make a humbucker sound like a single coil at a given volume level but its not likely to sound like the single coil does when we play around with the volume knob.
But assuming you have an appropriate guitar and you set ip the model correctly there is no reason the software amp can’t clean up the same way the real one does.
Thank you
No, no, no. Thank you!
Apparently, you would need someone that knows how to dial in the tone with the Gidson's
volume/tone knobs for each pickup for each sound into a Marshall with the Volume maxed out. 2 Les Paul volumes might mss some aspect of the pick up settings and Tone tweaks.
Anyway, keep going. I'm enjoying find new uses for this FX for tone shaping. I wanted to dirty
up some strings and just flipped though the presets to get more grunge. It still sounds pristine without the masking the others seem to insert with the distortion.
Thanks @Blue_Mangoo for Gainstage. I love how it sounds (played with Strandberg Boden OS7). I’m all for a simple app without any effect pedals. Keep it simple and good sounding!
I jammed a bit with the Eventide Spring & Blackhole reverbs and the RE-1 as looper. Here’s the result: https://jens-christianfischer.bandcamp.com/album/loop-20-20
That sounds cool. I would like to make a special synth oriented version later.
I’ll buy it. (I also used a HW synth on the above track, the new Modal Argon 8)
General status update:
In response to feedback from customers, I am working on improving the high gain models. When I designed this plugin I spent most of the time making it sag like old tube-rectified amps do. At this point it is clear that sagging like that doesn’t work for high gain sounds.
So I’m working on getting a solid-state rectifier sound that will have tighter distortion at high gain settings.
Cool. If you aren't familiar with him @bedheadproducer would be a great person to have check out the high gain amps. He is an accomplished shredder who gigs.
@Blue_Mangoo I sent a link
> General status update:
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> In response to feedback from customers, I am working on improving the high gain models. When I designed this plugin I spent most of the time making it sag like old tube-rectified amps do. At this point it is clear that sagging like that doesn’t work for high gain sounds.
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> So I’m working on getting a solid-state rectifier sound that will have tighter distortion at high gain settings.
Solid-state? Are you going after the Pantera sound? Don’t forget the all tube 5150 which is the reference as metal amp goes. That’s what I have sitting right next to me 😁
Also the all tube hot rodded Marshall jcm 800 for that 80’s glam metal sound.