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Drambo by BeepStreet released

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  • Hi. Can someone please tell me how (if) to sync Drambo to my Digitakt in standalone mode?. I can do it fine when AUV3 in AUM, but not standalone.
    Even tried via the LINK app to no avail, I can send midi data, It also reflects tempo changes, but no transport.
    I have Sync start/stop selected... would really appreciate your help.

  • edited October 2020

    @tahiche Drambo doesn't support MIDI clock yet and that's the only sync mechanism that supports a master/slave setup and instant start/stop of master and slave.
    A few alternatives that can host Drambo AUv3 and support full MIDI clock sync:
    Audiobus 3
    apeMatrix
    Beatmaker 3

    AB3 has the most advanced MIDI clock implementation that includes the important clock offset correction to avoid unprecise sync because of different audio buffers in different apps.

    AUM and Cubasis 3 can't receive clock sync at all.

    By the way, I would use "MIDI Link Sync" instead of Link to MIDI. The former supports bidirectional sync and reliable offset correction.

  • I forgot how to create a pitch delay with Drambo. I want to use Drambo with my guitar to create arpeggio. I play 1 note and the pitch delay play let's say E-G-B. I know how to do it with midi, but not with audio. I have harmony8 but the sound is not clear enough. I'm looking for something like Quadravox by Eventide.

  • edited October 2020

    @Montreal_Music said:
    I forgot how to create a pitch delay with Drambo. I want to use Drambo with my guitar to create arpeggio. I play 1 note and the pitch delay play let's say E-G-B. I know how to do it with midi, but not with audio. I have harmony8 but the sound is not clear enough. I'm looking for something like Quadravox by Eventide.

    Delay Time 2 modulation amount = 0.52
    Delay Time 3 modulation amount = 1.00

  • Thank you @WillieNegus!
    Yes, I'm very happy that the Drambo library on patchstorage has grown like crazy since April. It's always worth a search.

    And to all uploaders: Make sure you add related tags so your great creations can be found easily ;)

  • edited October 2020

    Anyone have a good patch for a Prophet 5 type instrument rack? Haven’t found much on patchstorage to my knowledge for that. That would be cool to look at one and reverse engineer it

  • Hi!
    This is probably obvious but I can’t find it,,,
    How do you send midi from one track to another?.
    I see how you can set a track to receive audio input from the output of another track, but I can’t see it with midi.
    Cheers

  • @tahiche said:
    Hi!
    This is probably obvious but I can’t find it,,,
    How do you send midi from one track to another?.
    I see how you can set a track to receive audio input from the output of another track, but I can’t see it with midi.
    Cheers

    Just like with audio, a MIDI port can receive MIDI from a previous module or track. Go to mixer view (upper right burger menu) to route between tracks:

  • edited October 2020

    @Fingolfinzzz said:
    Anyone have a good patch for a Prophet 5 type instrument rack? Haven’t found much on patchstorage to my knowledge for that. That would be cool to look at one and reverse engineer it

    I've started building one a while ago but had to stop for lack of time. I'll continue to work on it but it won't be soon. The upcoming wavetable module might help simplify a few "hacks" too.
    My aim is to make it sound like U-he Repro-5.

  • @Fingolfinzzz said:
    Anyone have a good patch for a Prophet 5 type instrument rack? Haven’t found much on patchstorage to my knowledge for that. That would be cool to look at one and reverse engineer it

    Are you looking for a basic synth to learn from, with features that resemble those of a Prophet 5. BUT does not necessarily sound the same as a Prophet 5? In my Drambo experience, this would be a more feasible synth to build for others to use as a synth to learn from.

    A synth coming close to actually emulating the vintage sounds of a Prophet 5 may likely become a complex and really difficult to understand beast.

    In my experience building vintage synth emulations with the current iteration of Drambo. I find it's more practical to choose one type of vintage sound, then build one instrument to emulate that one type of sound.

    My efforts at building full vintage synth emulations have gotten so crazy complex, that the results becomes too crazy complex for me to consider them vintage synth emulations.

    Because Drambo is an evolving platform, a day may come when there will exist in Drambo the meta controls required to make constructing easily programable vintage synth emulators more feasible.

    Though... I'd personally rather have the upcoming AUv3 support in Drambo before all other upgrades. I'm looking forward to the prospect of being able to run the new ATOM piano roll in standalone Drambo, and other synths, and effects...!!!

  • @horsetrainer That's exactly the point. To make an emulation sound virtually indistinguishable from the original, it's usually not sufficient to just copy the architecture.

  • @rs2000 said:

    @tahiche said:
    Hi!
    This is probably obvious but I can’t find it,,,
    How do you send midi from one track to another?.
    I see how you can set a track to receive audio input from the output of another track, but I can’t see it with midi.
    Cheers

    Just like with audio, a MIDI port can receive MIDI from a previous module or track. Go to mixer view (upper right burger menu) to route between tracks:

    Thanks for the answer. But, Wouldn’t that be the input notes before going through all the modules in the track?.
    I’m playing around with an Impaktor patch on track one and would like to build a little synths on track 2, that takes the generated midi. That is, after the notes are generated with the Impaktor processor...
    So I’d think I have to connect it like this....

    But I can’t, it’s grayed out. I hope I explained it ok. Thanks!

  • @rs2000 said:

    @Fingolfinzzz said:
    Anyone have a good patch for a Prophet 5 type instrument rack? Haven’t found much on patchstorage to my knowledge for that. That would be cool to look at one and reverse engineer it

    I've started building one a while ago but had to stop for lack of time. I'll continue to work on it but it won't be soon. The upcoming wavetable module might help simplify a few "hacks" too.
    My aim is to make it sound like U-he Repro-5.

    That awesome, I’ll be stoked to see that. I’ve gotten a few things to sort of sound like a few of the brassy patches but my knowledge is just too limited still to get anything advanced going on

  • @rs2000 said:
    @horsetrainer That's exactly the point. To make an emulation sound virtually indistinguishable from the original, it's usually not sufficient to just copy the architecture.

    Does Drambo have a way to hard-sync an oscillator to another?

  • @tahiche said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @tahiche said:
    Hi!
    This is probably obvious but I can’t find it,,,
    How do you send midi from one track to another?.
    I see how you can set a track to receive audio input from the output of another track, but I can’t see it with midi.
    Cheers

    Just like with audio, a MIDI port can receive MIDI from a previous module or track. Go to mixer view (upper right burger menu) to route between tracks:

    Thanks for the answer. But, Wouldn’t that be the input notes before going through all the modules in the track?.
    I’m playing around with an Impaktor patch on track one and would like to build a little synths on track 2, that takes the generated midi. That is, after the notes are generated with the Impaktor processor...
    So I’d think I have to connect it like this....

    But I can’t, it’s grayed out. I hope I explained it ok. Thanks!

    Hey tahiche, I think the issue is that the MIDI output you want within a rack. Currently, you can select the output of a module that is contained within a rack. If you copied the contents of the instrument rack and pasted it directly onto the track, you could independently select the midi output.

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @rs2000 said:
    @horsetrainer That's exactly the point. To make an emulation sound virtually indistinguishable from the original, it's usually not sufficient to just copy the architecture.

    Does Drambo have a way to hard-sync an oscillator to another?

    Yep, the gate input for an oscillator can be used as hard sync input from another oscillator's signal. I think it works for everything but triangle waves.

  • @bcrichards said:

    @tahiche said:

    @rs2000 said:

    Hey tahiche, I think the issue is that the MIDI output you want within a rack. Currently, you can select the output of a module that is contained within a rack. If you copied the contents of the instrument rack and pasted it directly onto the track, you could independently select the midi output.

    Agghgghgg. I did read about not being o access stuff inside racks, totally makes sense. And racks don’t have midi outputs?. That’s a shame. It’d be really useful to be able to pop in these great chains as racks for resuability.
    Thanks for clarifying, I’m pretty new and I thought I was doing something wrong.
    Btw, Ben I love your videos.
    I had vague concepts of how synths work, basically noodled around. Besides the obvious practical uses, Drambo is the best tool to learn the building blocks of generating and manipulating sound. For instance, I always took ADSR for granted, it’s always there. Then you add your first oscillator in Drambo and you think “oh, stop it already!” it becomes cristal clear how invaluable an ADSR is.

  • @Fingolfinzzz said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @Fingolfinzzz said:
    Anyone have a good patch for a Prophet 5 type instrument rack? Haven’t found much on patchstorage to my knowledge for that. That would be cool to look at one and reverse engineer it

    I've started building one a while ago but had to stop for lack of time. I'll continue to work on it but it won't be soon. The upcoming wavetable module might help simplify a few "hacks" too.
    My aim is to make it sound like U-he Repro-5.

    That awesome, I’ll be stoked to see that. I’ve gotten a few things to sort of sound like a few of the brassy patches but my knowledge is just too limited still to get anything advanced going on

    Can you give me a Repro-5 factory patch that you've found the most challenging to re-build?
    The demo version is free to download on the U-he web site and it can be evaluated without much hassle.

  • @tahiche midi racks have a midi output :)

  • @rs2000 said:

    @Fingolfinzzz said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @Fingolfinzzz said:
    Anyone have a good patch for a Prophet 5 type instrument rack? Haven’t found much on patchstorage to my knowledge for that. That would be cool to look at one and reverse engineer it

    I've started building one a while ago but had to stop for lack of time. I'll continue to work on it but it won't be soon. The upcoming wavetable module might help simplify a few "hacks" too.
    My aim is to make it sound like U-he Repro-5.

    That awesome, I’ll be stoked to see that. I’ve gotten a few things to sort of sound like a few of the brassy patches but my knowledge is just too limited still to get anything advanced going on

    Can you give me a Repro-5 factory patch that you've found the most challenging to re-build?
    The demo version is free to download on the U-he web site and it can be evaluated without much hassle.

    I’ll check them out, I’ve mainly been doing it by ear and just referencing a few thing about the prophet and trying to recreate that but I’m still miles away from knowing what I’m doing. But yeah I’ll download Repro and check out some of those presets

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  • @Owgill said:
    Is there a way to do ambisonic processing in Drambo?

    Prof Statler Googles:

    Ambisonics is a special technique for gathering and using audio recordings. Ambisonic sound effects are captured by rare, uniquely designed microphones that house not one but four sub-cardioid microphones pointed in different directions. This unusual arrangement of microphone capsules is known as a tetrahedral array.

    There are two conventions within the Ambisonics B-format standard: AmbiX and FuMa. They are quite similar, but not interchangeable: they differ by the sequence in which the four channels are arranged, with AmbiX, for example, arranged WYZX instead of WXYZ. The Waves Ambisonics plugins use the AmbiX format – which is why on the plugin interfaces you’ll see the channels ordered WYZX. To enable you to move back and forth between AmbiX and FuMa, the Waves B360 Ambisonics Encoder plugin includes AmbiX-to-FuMa and FuMa-to-AmbiX convertors.)

    If anyone can appreciate these details and answer the question I'd bet it's @rs2000 and that the answer is "No.". It sounds like a deep Voodoo DSP job that @giku_beepstreet would have to provide us in a module. Don't hold your breath with the To Do list already in place.

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  • @Owgill said:
    Also, I’m going to say why not mention another item in the wish list could be bineural processing. I can’t think of iOS App that has been developed for ambisonic or bineural. Anyway just dreaming of spacelization.

    https://apps.apple.com/app/binaural-location/id1467869713

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  • @Owgill said:
    Is there a way to do ambisonic processing in Drambo?

    Sound synthesis as the source(s) for an ambisonic encoder: Definitely yes!

    But Drambo replacing an Ambisonic encoder and processor? That's not really the idea behind Drambo.
    You would need the decoded channels in order to do any processing and distribute them over multiple Drambo instances.

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  • @Owgill said:
    Thanks for the info @rs2000

    You're welcome!
    BTW, to answer your question about binaural processing:
    In a modular host like apeMatrix or AUM, you can route up to 8 audio outputs from Drambo into individual HRTF convolutors that are summed at the end of the stereo chain.
    If you record each impulse response with in-ear microphones (ideally with your own ears) and place the sound impulse source at the exact position you want to model then the results should be quite convincing, especially when done in smaller rooms that won't require long IRs and a CPU from Venus to model.

    A fully integrated modular way to approach it could be done as soon as the Drambo standalone gets AUv3 support.

    My own choice for realtime convolution tasks is the Thafknar AUv3.

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